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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPL MINUTES 07151997 Meeting Sheet IIIIII VIII VIII VIII VIII VIII IIII IIII 100957 Box: 19 Folder: PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 1997 Document: PL MINUTES 07151997 1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 3 JULY 15, 1997 4 I. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 5 The meeting was called to order and the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chair Bergstrom at 6 7:07 P.M. 7 H. ROLL CALL. 8 Commissioners present: Chair Bergstrom; Commissioners Delmonico, Franzese, 9 Gondorchin, Horst, Makowske (arrived at 7:09 P.M.), and 10 Thompson. 11 Commissioners absent: None. 12 Also present: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant and Michael Morrison, 13 City Manager. 14 III. APPROVAL OF JULY 15, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. 15 Motion by Thompson, seconded by Franzese, to approve the Planning Commission Agenda 16 for July 15, 1997 as presented. 17 Motion carried unanimously. Commissioner Makowske arrived at 7:09 P.M. 19 IV. APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 17, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 20 MINUTES. 21 Motion by Makowske, seconded by Franzese, to approve the June 17, 1997 Planning 22 Commission Meeting minutes with the following changes: 23 Page 1, Line 22: Replace "Radman" with "Madden"; 24 Page 3, Line 24: Replace "apologized to Mr. Rosar for the deceptions he had faced" with 25 "felt badly that Mr. Rosar felt he had been deceived."; 26 Page 4, Line 25: Replace "Spann" with "Spano"; 27 Page 5, Line 3: Replace "Spann" with "Spano"; 28 Page 6, Line 17: Staff was asked to check if Sunday hours of operation from 10:00 A.M. 29 to 4:00 P.M. was to be included in Condition #2. 30 Page 7, Line 5: Replace "City had not enforced the conditions of the conditional use 31 permit" with "conditions of the conditional use permit had not been 32 enforced". 33 Motion carried unanimously. 34 V. DESIGNATE PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE FOR JULY 22, 1997 �5 COUNCIL MEETING. Commissioner Horst was appointed as the Planning Commission representative for the 37 Tuesday, July 22, 1997, City Council meeting. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 2 1 VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 2 1. 97-05, John Trautz, Freedom Gas Station, Lot 4 Apache Plaza - Conditional Use 3 Permit and Rear Yard Setback Variance Request. 4 Chair Bergstrom opened the public hearing at 7:12 P.M. 5 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported Mr. John Trautz, representing Reliance Development Company, 6 has submitted two applications, one for a conditional use permit and one for a 12 foot rear 7 yard setback variance, to the City for a proposed gas station and car wash on Lot 4, Block 1, 8 Apache Plaza. This location is between the Tires Plus building and the new Video Update 9 building and is part of the redevelopment plan for the Apache Plaza Shopping Center. 10 Minnesota Statutes and City Ordinances require that certain conditions be satisfied before a 11 conditional use permit may be granted. The first condition stipulates that the proposed use is 12 one which is specifically listed for the zoning district where the use will be located. The 13 proposed gas station and car wash are permitted uses for this Commercial District according 14 to the City's Zoning Code, Section 1635.05, Permitted Conditional Uses, (f) car washes and 15 (g) gasoline stations. 16 The next condition required in order to obtain a permit is that the proposed use will not be 17 detrimental to the health, safety, or general welfare of the persons residing or working in the vicinity. Mr. Trautz stated in a written response that the operator runs over 55 stores in four qP9 states and that it is a "high quality" operation. The building will be constructed to provide a 20 state-of-the-art fuel handling facility. 21 Finally, the last requirement that needs to be satisfied is for the proposed use to be considered 22 necessary or desirable at the above location to provide a service or a facility which is in the 23 interest of public convenience and will contribute to the general welfare of the neighborhood 24 community. Mr. Trautz states that the proposed development is designed to be convenient 25 and easy to use by the general public. The proximity of the proposed gas station/convenience 26 store/car wash to the current and proposed retail businesses makes it very accessible and 27 convenient to the Apache Plaza patrons and traffic on Silver Lake Road. 28 Other conditions that the Planning Commission and City Council may consider would be with 29 regard to lighting, landscaping, business hours, and signage. 30 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted the request for the 12 foot rear yard setback variance which was 31 initially requested by Mr. Trautz was determined not to be necessary by Staff and City 32 Attorney due to a change in the City's Ordinance 1635.05 with the addition of a new 33 Subdivision 8, and amending Section 1400.04, Subdivision 27, as adopted on-February 25, 34 1997 and published on March 5, 1997. 4 Subdivision 8 states, "The minimum yards set forth in this Section 1635.05 will not apply to any lot line of a lot in a shopping center if(I) the lot line adjoins either another lot within the 37 shopping center or a driveway or parking area within the shopping center, and (ii) the Council 38 has approved a site plan for a building to be constructed on the lot with a different setback Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 3 1 from such lot line. In such cases, the setback approved by the Council shall apply so long as 2 the building exists on the lot." 3 "For purposes of this subdivision, a "shopping center" means any group of four or more retail 4 or service establishments totaling a minimum floor area of 75,000 square feet, on one or more 5 contiguous tracts of land in single ownership; or in multiple ownership but subject to a 6 reciprocal easement agreement governing common access and parking." 7 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated the situation in the City Ordinance, Section 1635.05 exists for 8 Apache Plaza and Mr. Trautz and he has requested that the request for the variance be 9 withdrawn. Ms. Moore-Sykes recommended the Planning Commission review the site plan 10 and make a recommendation to the City Council. 11 Mr. John Trautz, applicant, introduced Paul Struther, the architect, and Rick Rico, Erickson 12 Oil Company, operator of the facility. 13 Mr. Paul Struther, architect, displayed overheads of the proposed site plan. He explained the 14 site plan will realign the current sachet, maintain the drive aisle to Tires Plus, utilize 39th 15 Avenue as the primary access, and Silver Lake Road for access as well. An important 16 element of the site is the restriction on sight lines which precluded any development on the north portion of the site. This provided an opportunity for green space and signage at the q'8 north end. Mr. Struther noted one change since the proposed plan was submitted is the 19 addition of a retaining wall along Silver Lake Road. The nearest store is located in the City 20 of Fridley and is almost identical to the one being proposed. 21 Commissioner Franzese asked if the sachet which was referred to was two lanes. 22 Mr. Struther explained the site currently has parking islands which were part of the old 23 Apache Plaza layout. The proposal will remove the drive islands and straighten the lane out 24 to allow two way travel. 25 Commissioner Gondorchin expressed concern for emergency vehicle access near the pumps at 26 the end of the car wash while cars were parked in the available stalls. He stated he would 27 like this inspected by the Fire Chief. 28 Commissioner Horst asked if a canopy was proposed above the gas pumps and if it would 29 affect the sight line. 30 Mr. Struther stated a canopy is proposed. The end of the canopy is lined up on the edge of 31 the sight line and the rest of the project is located to the south. The proposal utilized the 32 same distances as the store in Fridley because the distances worked well there. Chair Bergstrom asked what type of signage was proposed. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes July 15, 1997 • Page 4 1 Mr. Struther stated the signage will be addressed under a separate application. It will include 2 a ground sign identifying the store and the fuel prices with a brick tier on either side. There 3 will be signage on the fascia of the canopy and the building. The signs will be lit. The 4 canopy will include unpainted fascia with a six foot oval shaped Conoco sign. 5 Chair Bergstrom questioned the hours of operation of the facility. 6 Mr. Rico, operator of the facility, stated the hours of operation have not yet been determined. 7 50% of the metro stores are open 24 hours and 50% are open 17 hours. It will depend on 8 economics. 9 Chair Bergstrom asked if a landscape plan had been submitted. 10 Mr. Struther stated it had been submitted with the application. 11 Commissioner Thompson asked if the property had been purchased. 12 Mr. Trautz stated it was under option. 13 Chair Bergstrom noted that in the past signage on canopies has not been allowed in the City of St. Anthony. 15 Commissioner Horst noted that a condition of the conditional use permit was that the use will 16 contribute to the betterment of the community. He noted there were many gas stations and 17 car washes in the area and questioned what was unique about this proposal that would add to 18 the retail in this area. 19 Mr. Rico stated a feasibility study had been performed and the results were very good. He 20 stated he felt the store was unique and would be viable in this location. 21 Commissioner Franzese stated that she had no doubt that the operation would be successful as 22 a commercial business. She noted however that the community had been hoping to have a 23 family restaurant locate on this site and is very disappointed that it will now be the location of 24 a gas station. 25 Mr. Rico stated that this site would not be well suited for a family restaurant as there is not 26 enough traffic for a restaurant to be successful. 27 Chair Bergstrom closed the public hearing at 7:34 P.M. 28 Commissioner Makowske noted this site did not face a residential area. As there was no 9 conflict between zoning, he did not know if hours of operation would be of concern. He stated he would like the approval of the Fire Chief in regard to emergency vehicle access as a 1 condition of approval or a prerequisite to building. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes July 15, 1997 • Page 5 1 Chair Bergstrom noted the Amoco Station was in the same situation and was allowed 24 hour 2- operation. It would not be right to allow one business 24 operation and not allow another the 3 same. 4 Commissioner Horst stated he agreed. 5 Commissioner Makowske stated he would also like a condition of approval or prerequisite to 6 building that the site be in conformance with regulations for drainage of hazardous chemicals. 7 Mr. Struther displayed and explained the landscape plan. The Plan included a collection of 8 shrubbery plantings on 39th Avenue with deciduous trees planted on the islands between the 9 site and Apache Plaza. Shrubs will be planted near the building and ornamental plantings are 10 included along the building. The balance of the green area will be lawn. 11 Commissioner Gondorchin stated he would vote against the conditional use permit as he did 12 not believe this would be a good addition to Apache Plaza. He noted the residents are 13 concerned with 24 hour operations in this area and this has the potential to become a 24 hour 14 operation. 15Motion by Bergstrom, seconded by Horst, to recommend approval of the conditional use permit for operation of a Gas/Convenience Store with Car Wash for Reliance Development 7 Company, L.L.P. on Lot 4, Block 1, Apache Plaza as it meets the following conditions of the 18 conditional use permit: 19 1. The proposed use is one which is specifically listed for the zoning district where the 20 use will be located; 21 2. The proposed use will not be detrimental to the health, safety, or general welfare of 22 the persons residing or working in the vicinity; 23 3. The proposed use is desirable at the above location to provide a service and is in the 24 interest of public convenience and will contribute to the general welfare of the 25 neighborhood community; 26 Subject to the following conditions: 27 1. The proposed layout will be done in accordance with the drawings submitted to the 28 City as part of the approval; 29 2. The proposed layout be subject to approval of the Fire Chief for movement and access 30 of emergency vehicles; 31 3. Petroleum storage and drainage requirements conformity with local and state 32 requirements. Commissioner Franzese suggested addition of Condition #4, "No one present spoke against the request". 35 Chair Bergstrom and Commissioner Horst accepted the amendment to the motion. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 6 1 Vote on the motion: Bergstrom, Delmonico, Franzese, Horst, and Makowske voted aye. 2 Gondorchin and Thompson voted naye. 3 Motion carried. 4 Chair Bergstrom noted this request will be considered by the City Council at their meeting on 5 July 22, 1997. 6 VII. OTHER BUSINESS. 7 1. Review of Draft Comprehensive Plan Update. 8 Chair Bergstrom thanked the members of the Task Force for being present. He stated that he 9 had observed a lot of detail and ideas from discussions at meetings in the Draft Plan was 10 quite pleased with the content. 11 Mr. Bill Weber, BRW, Inc., explained the Draft Plan included Introduction and Goals, 12 Community Profile, Land Use and Urban Design, Transportation Plan, Housing Plan, Park 13 and Recreation Plan, Public Facilities Plan, and Implementation Program. He noted the 14 Appendix items were not included in the Draft Plan which was submitted this evening. 15 Mr. Weber explained that at the start of the Comprehensive Plan Update process, the City stated it considered itself a "village" and that has been the driving force behind the 7 Comprehensive Plan. The town square is made up of Central Park and the civic element in 18 the middle of the City. There is an identifying main street and two or three identifying 19 crossroads. There is a commercial center on the north and south ends of town and there are 20 five or six very fine residential neighborhoods surrounding the core of the City. 21 There are opportunities to enhance this image with landscaping and other improvements on 22 Silver Lake Road, especially-with the rebuilding of the bridge; opportunities for enhancements 23 by private entities with the redevelopment of Apache Plaza; opportunities for continued 24 enhancement in the Kenzie Terrace area as the City continues to acquire land in that area; and 25 the entrances and exits to the City can be marked clearly with defined landscaping. Another 26 possible improvement would be providing bike lanes and signage and tieing into the regional 27 bike parkways on St. Anthony Boulevard and possibly Stinson Boulevard. 28 Transportation improvements would occur primarily on Silver Lake Road with the possibility 29 of the addition of left turn lanes and enhanced appearance. Another possibility is replacement 30 of the stop sign at 29th Avenue NE with a small traffic circle. 31 Suzanne Rhees, BRW, Inc., noted there is a lot of interest in the City to improve and expand 32 the park system. There has been the creation of a Parks Advisory Task Force which is 33 investigating options for redesign of Central Park. Improvements could be made to the play equipment at Silver Point Park and Emerald Park. Another possible concept would be to relocate the City's Public Works site and redevelop that property as a neighborhood park. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 7 1 Mr. Weber explained that moving the Public Works site and replacing it with a park would 2 solidify and stabilize the neighborhood south of the railroad tracks. There is currently an 3 uneasy mixture of residential and industrial in that area. He suggested the area move toward 4 the direction of residential as it is not a long-term strong industrial area. 5 Mr. Weber stated that monitoring of the St. Anthony Shopping Center should be included in 6 the Plan Update. He suggested the use of this site possibly should be changed over the next 7 decade. 8 City Manager Mornson clarified that a Parks Task Force is being developed, and that the 9 agencies currently running the park system will continue to do so. He also noted that while 10 moving the Public Works site does have merit, there is industry that is anxious to expand in 11 that area. 12 George Wagner, Task Force Member, suggested that the spelling of St. Anthony be kept 13 consistent with either "St." or "Saint". 14 Morrison noted that at the beginning of the Comprehensive Plan Update process, one of the 15 recommendations was potential suggestions of verbiage change to the ordinance. He noted 16 there were no changes recommended and asked if this meant there were no conflicts discovered. 18 Ms. Rhees stated that detailed changes to the zoning ordinance text may not come up in a 19 Comprehensive Plan review. If there are future land use changes, they will result in changes 20 to the zoning map but this will depend on market forces and time. 21 It was noted that traffic circles require a lot of land. 22 Mr. Weber stated 29th Avenue was a broad intersection. He was not certain if any private 23 land would need to be acquired but if any was needed it would be a minimal amount. 24 Ms. Rhees explained the new design of traffic circles is smaller and designed more for use on 25 a local street. 26 Jerry Faust, Task Force Member, asked how a traffic circle would enhance traffic flow. 27 Ms. Rhees stated traffic circles are designed to keep traffic moving at a reasonable speed. 28 Traffic circles and neck-downs at corners slow traffic but traffic flows through more readily 29 than by use of a stop sign or traffic signal. 30 Chair Bergstrom stated he had spoken with a traffic engineer who drives 29th Avenue 31 everyday, and he stated that a traffic circle, with the proper design, in this area could control the volume of traffic in the area even better than a traffic signal. The engineer stated he felt �'3 that at that intersection a significant area of land would have to be removed to installa traffic Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes July 15, 1997 • Page 8 1 circle but that it would have to be measured to be certain. He felt a traffic circle was a nice 2 idea for that intersection. 3 Mr. Faust questioned the location of the gateway site to the north and Chair Bergstrom 4 questioned placement at the south. 5 Ms. Rhees explained that the northern gateway site was in this location because this was the 6 first area where the City of St. Anthony was on both sides of the street. The southern 7 gateway site was located in its position as you came over the hill and the City was below. 8 Smaller gateway signs could be located at the true boundaries of the City. 9 Commissioner Horst stated he liked the idea of relocating the Public Works site but was 10 concerned with the elimination of industry. He questioned if BRW had accounted for the loss 11 of industry and the effect on the tax base. 12 Mr. Weber noted the only land use change would occur on two small parcels and would result 13 in a minor impact to the tax base. 14 Ms. Rhees noted that the neighborhood in question is comprised largely of multi-family 15 housing with no play area in the yard. The children have to cross the railroad tracks or a dangerous street to access play equipment. Conversion of the Public Works site to play 7 equipment would give the neighborhood a center and an amenity of their own. 18 Commissioner Horst questioned the suggested change to the St. Anthony Shopping Center 19 area. He felt that monitoring the area would not leave much room for future redevelopment. 20 Mr. Weber stated he was not suggesting the City hasten to change this area. He was only 21 suggesting the City monitor the area and see what may happen through private sources and be 22 prepared to respond. If the area becomes less commercially viable the City will then be 23 prepared. 24 Ms. Rhees suggested the area may be appropriate for mixed uses. 25 Chair Bergstrom questioned the Metropolitan Council's statistics in terms of employment, etc. 26 He noted that the City of St. Anthony already meets or exceeds some of the Metropolitan 27 Council's criteria in terms of the Livable Communities Act. 28 Mr. Weber explained the Metropolitan Council's latest Regional Plan published goals for 29 population and employment in each city. Some of the goals are policy driven. The numbers 30 for household and employment for St. Anthony appear to be a little higher than the City can 31 provide. The only minor opportunity is for an increase in employment. BRW has submitted 32 more information to the Metropolitan Council staff explaining that the goals are too high and asking them to adjust their expectations. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes July 15, 1997 • Page 9 1 Chair Bergstrom asked if specific language needed to be incorporated into the Comprehensive 2 Plan Update to state the intentions of St. Anthony. He stated the current language appeared to 3 be fairly equivocal. 4 Ms. Rhees agreed that the language may need to be more definitive to express that St. 5 Anthony does not support the projections of the Metropolitan Council. 6 7 Commissioner Gondorchin stated the prospect of redesigning the southern area of the City to 8 include a combination of residential and commercial was attractive and desirable. He did not .9 believe that the gateways to the City had to be located exactly on the City boundaries. He 10 noted the industrial area on the southeast end of the City and asked if there were any changes 11 proposed for that area. He noted the area lacked identification. 12 Mr. Weber stated that area was stable and functioning well. He agreed that it is confusing 13 where City boundaries occur in that area. 14 When asked if a walking path was included in the redesign of Central Park. Mr. Wagner 15 responded that a walking path is on the agenda of the Parks Task Force. 16 Mr. Weber stated he would present the Draft Plan to the City Council on July 22 with the hope that the City Council will grant preliminary approval. The Draft Plan will then be 0'8 submitted to the Metropolitan Council for approval within 60 days. A Public Hearing will 19 then be held and the City Council will adopt the Comprehensive Plan Update. 20 Chair Bergstrom thanked Task Force members for all their efforts. 21 Commissioner Franzese asked when the appendix would be available. 22 Ms. Rhees stated the appendix would be mailed to the City Council within 3-4 weeks. 23 24 2. Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance re: Professional/Medical Buildings - Definition 25 and Allowable Uses, Signage. 26 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported two proposed revisions to the City's Zoning Ordinance regarding 27 professional and medical buildings had been forwarded to City Attorney on June 25, 1997. 28 This issue came as a result of the Wirth Companies request to allow medical laboratories in 29 the Apache Medical building. The Ordinance states that labs are only allowed in the Light 30 Industrial Zoning District; the Apache Medical building is in the Commercial District. 31 Shortly after that request, the City received a request from the Wirth Companies to put several 32 wall signs on the south side of the building. Their attorney, Doug Berg, has drafted a sign 33 plan and a proposed sign ordinance for professional and medical buildings. The current Ordinance has no definition or listed use for medical/professional buildings. 5 Several communities have addressed this situation as a permitted conditional use or an 36 allowed use in an industrial area. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes July 15, 1997 • Page 10 1 Staff has provided three possible amendments to the City's Zoning Ordinance, Commercial 2 Zoning District regarding uses allowable in Medical/Professional buildings: 3 Section 1635.01 Purpose. Add: It shall be the policy of the City Council to consider other 4 uses not listed in this section. Such other uses may be granted if, in the opinion of the City 5 Council, such use is not incompatible with other uses in this district. 6 Section 1635.02 Permitted Use., (eee) add: and.medical laboratories that provide testing and 7 research services to health care professionals. 8 Section 1635.03 Permitted Conditional Uses., (u) Laboratories-for medial research and testing 9 (except research and testing which use animals), that provide services to health care 10 providers., and (v) Computer research and program development. 11 City Attorney has suggested that the City consider the amendment to Section 1635.03, that 12 medical laboratories be included as a permitted condition use rather than a permitted use. 13 This would give the Planning Commission and City Council greater control over such uses as 14 to any future medical laboratories in the commercial district, and would enable them to 15 impose conditions if necessary. City Attorney is also in favor of the comprehensive sign 16 package submitted by Doug Berg, attorney for Wirth Companies. 47 On behalf of the Planning Commission, Chair Bergstrom recommended City Council approval 18 to change the City Zoning Ordinance Section 1635.03 to that language indicated in Kim 19 Moore-Sykes memo of June 17, 1997. 20 Chair Bergstrom then asked the Commission how they would like to address signage for a 21 medical/professional building with multi-floors. He suggested a new category be created to 22 define multi-story buildings to allow them to be eligible for a comprehensive sign package. 23 There was Commission consensus to direct Staff to create a new category to define 24 commercial/retail/office buildings to allow them to be eligible for a comprehensive sign 25 package. 26 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated she would draft such a change and submit it to City Attorney for 27 recommendation. 28 The Manager of the Apache Medical Building noted the types of businesses in the building 29 included medical, retail, laboratory facilities, professional, insurance, and financial. He also 30 stated that Wirth Companies also owns the St. Anthony Business Center. 31 Ms. Kim Flynn, Quiet Waters Salon, displayed the design of her proposed sign and noted it 32 was slightly different than the sign she had presented at the May 20 Commission meeting. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 11 1 There was Commission consensus that the individual signs included in the comprehensive sign 2 package must be consistent in height, length and whether lit or not lit. The fonts do not need 3 to be consistent as long as the sign fits within the designated area. 4 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted the letter of City Attorney dated July 15 which included his suggested 5 revisions to the sign ordinances regarding ground signs in residential districts. He suggested 6 paragraph (1) of Section 1400.12, Subd. 1 be amended to make it clear that the sign may 7 identify only the resident, not the resident's business. He also suggested other changes that 8 are simply clarifications and changes to make the language consistent with the rest of the 9 ordinances. , He suggested the following: 10 1400.10 Ground Signs. Are permitted in all districts but only to the extent permitted in this 11 Section and in the District Schedules set forth in Section 1400.12. 12 1400.12, Subd 1.(1) is amended to read as follows: R-1, R-1 A and R-2. One sign per 13 dwelling unit per right-of-way frontage stating the street address, which may also include the 14 name of the resident. Additionally, one address sign may be located on the curb in front of 15 each dwelling unit or on a freestanding mailbox. 16 1400.12, Subd.1 (4) add: Each of the following may erect and maintain one ground sign subject to the provisions of Section 1400.10 on the property to which the sign pertains: (a) q'8 Schools and publicly owned facilities listed in Sections 1615.02 (b) and (c) and 1616.02 (b) 19 and (c). (b) Churches, temples, synagogues and City buildings listed in Sections 1615.03 (a) 20 and (c) and 1616.03 (b). 21 There was Commission consensus to add "identification" to Section 1400.12, Subd. 1(1) 22 between "one" and "sign" in the first sentence. 23 Commissioner Gondorchin asked if placement of the signs should be restricted. 24 There was Commission consensus to address this issue separately. 25 Commissioner Makowske stated he was not in favor of Section 1400.12, Subd. 1 (1) requiring 26 that the street address be required on the identification sign. 27 There was Commission consensus to remove "which may include" and replace it with 28 "and/or". 29 There was direction for Staff to make the suggested changes and forward to the City Council 30 with the Planning Commission recommendation to incorporate into the City Ordinance. 31 32 VIII. COMMENTS. Commissioner Gondorchin asked when the pylon sign at Apache Plaza would be removed and 34 also if the name of the Shopping Center was being changed. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes • July 15, 1997 Page 12 1 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated she did not know when the pylon would be removed and that the 2 name of the Shopping Center would remain Apache Plaza as it has metro-wide recognition. 3 Commissioner Gondorchin noted there is a home on Silver Lane that has a lot of cars and 4 other junk and appears to be conducting business activity. He asked Staff to investigate this 5 issue. He also noted the letter presented to the City Council from the Commission in regard 6 to split liquor was warmly received with.no negative comments. There was no action taken. 7 Chair Bergstrom complimented Commissioner Thompson on his article on roses. 8 Commissioner Thompson stated he could not believe the amount of water problems in the 9 City. He also stated he hoped the Freedom gas station would not be approved by the City 10 Council. He felt it was a poor use of the site and a polluter. He had visited the Freedom gas 11 station in Fridley and it is beautiful in its place but it has no place in St. Anthony on Lot 4 of 12 Apache Plaza. 13 Commissioner Horst stated he was disappointed in the City Council in not granting the Rosar 14 request as they did not acknowledge a tangible hardship. It is not up to the Planning 15 Commission or City Council to decide if we want or need the business in the area. If it is a 16 permitted use that is not detrimental to the general populace, it should be allowed. He stated it was discouraging sometimes as he felt the recommendations made by the Planning q'8 Commission were not listened to. 19 Commissioner Gondorchin stated he felt the public had a great impact on the City Council 20 decision in regard to the Rosar request. He noted that the owner of Great Clips had basically 21 stated at the meeting that it was okay with him if he did not get the additional signage. 22 Commission consensus agreed with Chair Bergstrom suggestion that the Planning Commission 23 and City Council should meet jointly at work session on an annual basis. 24 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported she had received several calls from Mr. Rosar over the past week 25 and he is intending to abide by the conditions of the conditional use permit. He is currently 26 in the process of working with the Rice Creek Watershed District to install a catch basin and 27 then intends to redo the parking lot. He will also be addressing the landscape issue. He is 28 very upset with the City Council decision. 29 30 IX. ADJOURNMENT. 31 Motion by Horst, seconded by Delmonico, to adjourn the meeting at 9:39 P.M. 32 Motion carried unanimously. 33 Respectfully submitted, �4 Lorri KoP ischke X35 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial