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Document: CC MINUTES 10231979
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
COUNCIL MINUTES
• October 23, 1979
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Haik at 7 : 30 p.m.
Present for roll call: Letourneau, Ranallo, Haik, Sundland and Sauer.
Also present: Ronald Berg, Administrative Assistant; William Soth,
City Attorney; and Carol Johnson, Clerk-Treasurer.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Council Sauer to
approve as submitted the minutes for the Council meeting held on
October 9 , 1979 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Letourneau to
approve as submitted the minutes of the Council Budget Work Session
held October 8 , 1979 .
Motion carried unanimously.
George Marks presented the recommendations and reported actions of
the Planning Commission as they were reflected in the minutes of
their meeting of October 16 , 1979 .
The preliminary plat proposed for the property formerly owned by
is the School District 282 , on which five single family dwellings will
be constructed, was discussed with the new owner, A. J. Herlitz , and
Ron Murphy of Comstock and Davis , Inc. Because of traffic hazards
involved in driving out on Silver Lake Road, Mr. Murphy told the
Council only the home on Lot 2 will have a driveway onto that road,
while access to Lots 1 and 5 will be provided from 33rd Avenue N.E .
and for Lots 3 and 4 from Hilldale. Mr. Soth felt such an agree-
ment should be documented and Mr. Murphy agreed this could be accom-
plished through plat dedication.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Letourneau
to approve the preliminary platting as presented by Comstock and
Davis drawing 4247 for the property bound by Silver Lake Road , 33rd
Avenue N.E . and Hilldale Avenue N.E. on the condition that none of
the lots, except that specified on the plat as Lot 2 , will have
access from Silver Lake Road; finding, as did the Planning Commission,
that the proposal as presented conforms to the City Zoning Ordinance
under the existing R-1 , single family dwelling zoning and is com-
patible with the surrounding land use .
Motion carried unanimously.
A discussion regarding parking provisions for existing restaurants
in the City preceded the consideration of the Commission 's recommenda-
tions that the City Zoning Ordinance should be modified to specify
the parking requirements for sit-down restaurants . Mayor Haik said
she is "unhappy with the sea of concrete around the Poppin' Fresh
restaurant on Stinson" and requested Staff investigation of whether
the stated plans for expansion of the restaurant facilities , upon
which the additional parking spaces were permitted, would have been
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- Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
direct the City Staff to prepare the proposed amendment to the City
Zoning Ordinance which will require a minimum of one parking space
for every two seats in a sit-down restaurant with the related defi-
nition of a sit-down restaurant to be added to the ordinance as
well.
Motion carried unanimously.
The ordinance amendment will go back to the Planning Commission for
their review.
" 'Action on the Hedlund request that an instant print shop be permitted
in the existing building on the property governed by the Hedlund PUD
was deferred for clarification of under which zoning classification
the proposed operation falls, Mr. Marks told the Council . The Commis-
sion representative then told the Council there was no one present
at the Commission meeting to discuss the request for a shopping cen-
ter sign for the Saliterman property ,in the St. Anthony Shopping
Center, and the Commission felt action on the request should be de-
layed until such time as Elliott Saliterman is able to attend a
Commission meeting to discuss the proposal , at which time the Commis-
sion will be afforded the opportunity of discussing with him the plans
for upgrading his center and how such plans will fit into the Compre-
hensive Plan being formulated by the Commission with BRW, Inc. The
Commission did not feel, at this time , however, that it would be appro-
priate to ask for a moratorium on further development of this area
even though such action "might be legally undertaken while the compre-
hensive planning is in process. "
Council discussion of the sign request was deferred until after the
Public Hearing scheduled for 7: 45 p.m. , at which time Ma,
!or Haik opened
the hearing on the remodeling plans for the barber/beauty shop building
on Kenzie Terrace as presented by its owner, Hobie Swan. Mr. Berg
confirmed that all notification and publication requirements for such
a hearing had been met and all property owners within 200 feet of the
site were included in this notice. He later confirmed that, as re-
quired by ordinance, only the property owners and not tenants had
been included in this notice. There was no one present who reported
failure to receive the notice nor objected to its contents.
Mr. and Mrs. Swan were the only persons present to speak to the question
and Mr. Swan said he was remodeling the building for an administrative
office for the mobile trailer park he operates to the rear of the
building; and because he wants to "upgrade the building to make it
more attractive and at the same time to clean up the area. " His plans
are to relocate the existing barber pole where it will pose no visual
hazard to oncoming traffic and at the same time eliminate the other
signs that are now on the barber shop. Mr. Swan presented a letter
from the bank owners, who are his neighbors to the east, indicating
their approval of the renovation plans . Although he said he under-
stood the barber shop tenant felt the existing large sign and its
location were "mandatory" , Mr. Swan disagreed saying he felt since
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the universal sign for a barber shop is a barber pole, such signage
should be easily recognizable . As to the question of whether an
agreement had been previously made with the tenant regarding the
sign, Mr. Soth advised that any agreements made regarding the pro-
perty "rest with the property owner" and it is his right to remove
the sign irregardless of prior agreements with the tenants .
The Public Hearing was closed at 7 : 58 p.m.
In granting a variance for the barber pole (since it is a free-standing
sign) , the Council found that the sign will not be detrimental to
other property in the surrounding neighborhood and the pole will be
an improvement over the other non-conforming signs which will be
removed.
Motion by Councilman Ranallo and seconded by Councilman Sundland to
approve the remodeling plans as presented by Hobie Swan for his
building at 2501 Kenzie Terrace.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Sundland to
grant a variance for a free-standing sign to be located as proposed
in the remodeling plans for the building at 2501 Kenzie Terrace on
the condition the existing free-standing sign in front of the building
is removed as proposed by the owner.
• Motion carried unanimously.
Consideration of the proposed signage for the Saliterman shopping
center was resumed with Chuck Lerberg, of the Norquist Sign Company,
telling the Council the $4 , 500 sign his company proposes erecting
in the existing planter along Kenzie Terrace meets all the require-
ments of the City Sign Ordinance and the shopping center owners
feel it is essential to the identification of the center. Mr. Soth
confirmed that though the sign as presented does appear to meet all
requirements , the City Ordinance, however, requires Council approval
of such a sign.
Mr . Marks reiterated the concern he had expressed at the Commission
meeting whether further development of the shopping center area should
be pursued while the comprehensive planning for the area is being
formulated, but conceded the delay on the request might be until the
first of the year. He also reported there had been some question
as to how many shopping centers , per se, there are in that area known
as the St. Anthony Shopping Center, and wondered if there was not a
possibility of as many as four identification signs being erected
along Kenzie Terrace , if one is allowed. Information regarding the
sign' s value had not been presented to the Commission, he said. He
also suggested further information regarding the housing for the
elderly considered for the property across Kenzie Terrace might be
pertinent to the planning for the area as well as the determination
of what the Minnesota Project might offer in the way of aid in de-
ciding the direction that area will go in the future. The Council
did not consider these questions to be relevant to the sign request
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suggesting instead the City should do anything practical to make
the center more economically viable. Councilman Sundland said he
would never support a moratorium; and felt a sign of this value
could not have too great an effect on the future development of
the area, especially since any changes will probably not evolve
for years to come , if ever. Councilman Sauer agreed, seeing the
refusal of the sign as an interference with the owners ' economic
prerogatives . Councilman Ranallo felt the burden of determining
whether the sign might not be used later should be left with the
owners. Mr. Lerberg assured him the sign is so designed that it
can be used at any of the owners ' other business locations .
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Letourneau
to approve the signage proposed as identification of the Saliterman
property in the St. Anthony Shopping Center.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Marks concluded his presentation with the announcement that
Brad Bjorklund had been chosen by the other Commission members to
serve as Chairman Pro Tem of that body.
Since the new members recommended by the Chemical Abuse Information
Committee had been appointed to membership on the Committee at the
Council ' s September 25 meeting, the minutes for their September 10
meeting , which had been included in the Agenda, were considered as
only informational. However, Councilman Ranallo, who serves on the
Committee, announced more members are being sought. Councilman
Sundland indicated Bernard Webber was present to discuss the possi-
bility of his again serving if he can be assured the .Committee has
taken a different posture than it did when it was created several
years ago. He said he left the Committee when he differed with
them as to whether the direction they should take should be in the
area of prevention of chemical abuse, especially for the young, as
well as dealing with the effects of existing abuse. Mr. Webber said
Councilman Letourneau had indicated his surprise at hearing the
Committee had voted down the preventive aspects of the abuse problem.
He doubted whether the Committee had actually foreclosed any efforts
towards drug abuse prevention, Councilman Ranallo said, but rather
felt the major problem with the Committee had been their difficulty
in keeping an active membership to .formulate a formal program of
action. He saw their efforts towards the establishment of the Teen
Age Health Consultant program in the high school as directed towards
education of that group regarding chemical abuse and told Mr. Webber
it had been through the request of the Committee that fire department
presence at football games had been initiated, which seems to be dis-
couraging the use of alcohol by minors at these events. Mayor Haik
told Mr. Webber about the information card system formulated by the
Committee designed to identify sources of aid in case of crisis and
said she had recently attended, with Committee members , a two-day
workshop which should provide them with more effective tools for
• achieving the goals set for them by the Council . The Council is
better able to assess the direction of the Committee through the
presence of Councilman Ranallo as a member, Councilman Sundland told
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the Department of Public Safety representative; and suggested his
experience with the effects of alcohol abuse through his work in
that department and the utilization of informational material he
can provide for distribution might encourage the Committee to be
more open to new directions .
Motion by Councilman Letourneau and seconded by Councilman Sundland
to appoint Bernard Webber, 3212 33rd Avenue N.E. , to serve on the
Chemical Abuse Information Committee.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Sundland to
approve the winter maintenance agreement with Ramsey County whereby
the City will provide complete winter maintenance on specified
Ramsey County roadways for $792 for the next winter season.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Council agreed with Police Chief Hickerson' s October 17 assessment
that no additional ordinance relating to motor vehicle noise would
assist in enforcement of existing statutes unless noise monitoring
equipment is purchased, but the question was left open for further
recommendations requested by the Council of Al Perez of the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency.
Traffic study proposal for the area from 37th Avenue N.E. to 33rd
Avenue N.E. had been submitted by Short-Elliott-Hendrickson, Inc.
and B.R.W. , Inc. Councilman Sauer saw the BRW proposal as the more
professional of the two and it was agreed that company probably had
more insight regarding the problems experienced in that area through
their work on the Comprehensive Plan even though that facet of the
study had not been authorized because of cost.
Motion by Mayor Haik and seconded by Councilman Sauer to accept the
BRW proposal for a traffic study of the area east of Silver Lake
Road and west of Highcrest Road, lying between 33rd Avenue N.E. and
37 Avenue N.E.
Motion carried unanimously.
The couple who are taking over the restaurant facilities in the
Northgate Motel appeared to discuss their request for the necessary
licenses for that operation.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Mayor Haik to grant
the licenses necessary for the Fifth Wheel Restaurant, 2526 Highway 88 .
Motion carried unanimously.
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Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Ranallo
to grant a restaurant license for the Good Luck Cafe , 2700 Coolidge
Street N.E.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Letourneau
to approve payment of all Verified Claims listed in the October 23 ,
1979 Agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Letourneau
to approve payment of $73. 70 to Weaver, Talle & Herrick for legal
services regarding the Johnson Florist litigation.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Sundland to
approve payment of $2, 301 to the Dorsey firm for legal services
during August, 1979 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Berg told Councilman Letourneau the sewer rate charged the
Northgate Motel is being reconsidered since the swimming pool has
• been eliminated. However, the Public Works Department is also
checking on why the consumption remains high since the pool has
been closed.
Mayor Haik reported receiving a number of complaints from parents
regarding the hours younger children are allowed to stay in the
center as well as "some of the contacts made down there" . Councilman
Ranallo said a claim which could not be verified was made to him that
a youth who was recently killed on a vehicle on St. Anthony Boulevard
had been at the center prior to the accident. Mr. Swan said he had
noticed "kids hanging around that area long after the center ' s hour
of operation, and felt this facility presented more problems than
the games in the Apache Shopping Center whose hours are the same as
the center. Jim Olson, a candidate for a Council seat, was told
the City does have a noise ordinance which could apply to the center.
City Staff will instigate more stringent enforcement of the existing
curfew for those under 16, as discussed with the City Attorney.
Councilman Sundland complimented the staff on the fine newsletter
which had gone out with the water bills and suggested the Police,
Fire and Public Works Departments should be complimented for the
orderly fashion in which the high school homecoming activities were
carried out this year as compared to past events. Mr. Webber agreed,
saying the neighbors around the school never even knew the activities
were in progress this year. He was also very appreciative of the
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newsletter, saying "it 's too bad it doesn' t come out more often
since it' s the only way residents can find out what ' s going on
in city government" . Mayor Haik told him of the excellent coverage
of city events provided by the St. Anthony Bulletin whose reporter,
Diane O'Brien, acknowledged the compliment.
Mayor Haik announced the seminar on Tax Increment Financing being
sponsored by the League of Minnesota Cities November 15, as well
as the meeting of the Association of Mayors on November 16 , whose
subjects of discussion will center on ways of putting more money
in the city coffers.
Mr. Berg had advised the Council of the tour of the Trinity Apartments
which could be set up at their convenience , but they expressed a
preference for visiting individually the apartments which have been
selected as a model of the senior housing being proposed for con-
struction on Kenzie Terrace .
Mr. Webber said he was glad to hear about the traffic study being
done on 33rd Avenue because that street experiences many annoyances
from noisy vehicles and large trucks with a majority of the offenders
coming from the high school "with very few tags issued" .
An invitation was issued to the Council members to view Cable T.V.
in Fridley , October 24 .
Motion by Councilman Sauer and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
adjourn the meeting at 9 :05 p.m.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor
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