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1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
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5 June 25, 2002
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7 CALL TO ORDER.
8 Mayor Hodson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
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10 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
11 Mayor Hodson invited the Council and audience to join him in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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13 ROLL CALL.
14 Present: Mayor Hodson; Councilmembers Horst, Sparks, Thuesen, and Faust.
15 Absent: None.
16 Also Present: City Manager Mike Mornson; City Attorney Jerry Gilligan.
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18 CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
19 ITEMS.
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21 I. APPROVAL OF JUNE 25, 2002 CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA.
22 Motion by Councilmember Sparks, second by Councilmember Thuesen, to approve the City
23 Council Meeting Agenda of June 25, 2002.
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toMotion carried unanimously.
27 II. PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
28 None.
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30 III. COMMUNITY FORUM.
31 Mayor Hodson invited residents to come forward at this time and address the Council on items
32 that are not on the regular agenda.
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34 Hearing none, Mayor Hodson moved forward with the agenda.
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36 IV. CONSENT AGENDA.
37 1. Consider June 11. 2002 Council meeting minutes.
38 2. Consider licenses and permits.
39 3. Consider payment of claims.
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41 Councilmember Sparks requested that the June 11, 2002 Council meeting minutes be pulled from
42 the Consent Agenda.
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44 Motion by Councilmember Thuesen, second by Councilmember Sparks, to approve the Consent
45 Agenda, as amended above.
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0 Motion carried unanimously.
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2 Motion carried unanimously.
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4 Councilmember Faust made the following correction to the June 11, 2002 Council meeting
5 minutes: Page 8, line 25, "June 6, 2002"to be changed to, "August 6, 2002."
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7 Motion by Councilmember Faust, second by Councilmember Thuesen, to approve the Council
8 meeting minutes of June 18, 2002.
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10 Motion carried unanimously.
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13 V. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
14 None.
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16 VI. REPORTS FROM COMMISSIONS AND STAFF.
17 A. Planning Commission report on June 18, 2002 meeting;. The Planning Commission
18 recommended approval of the four requests from Culver's owners:
19 Planning Commissioner Vice Chair Stille came forward to discuss the issues that were
doaddressed at the June 18, 2002 Planning Commission meeting.
22 LResolution 02-054, re: Consider following four requests to allow construction of a
23 Culver's Family Restaurant at 4000/4001 Silver Lake Road:
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25 A. Conditional use permit for a drive-through restaurant located less than 250
26 feet from a residential one.
27 B. On-site parking variance for required number of spaces for every 50
28 square feet of floor area for a fast food, take-out, or convenience
29 restaurant.
30 C. Lot combination for Lot 1, Block 1, Apache Plaza with Lot 2, Block 1,
31 Apache Plaza.
32 D. Rear yard setback variance of 4.25 feet to meet the 20-foot setback
33 requirement.
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35 Councilmember Horst asked about the proposed colors of the building. Steve Sparks,
36 petitioner, came forward and displayed the color-boards that illustrated the compromised
37 colors of the siding, roof, and cement. The colors reflect toned-down versions of the
38 original Culvers proto-type.
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40 Councilmember Horst asked why they were changing the colors. Stille stated that DSU
41 provided a letter of recommendation that included toning down the color scheme of the
42 restaurant, which several commissioners wanted to adhere to. He continued that the
commissioners that requested the toned down variation would like to see the standards of
Northwest Quadrant be established before the Planning Commission makes decisions of
45 this nature.
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• which is a very easy and common adjustment to make. He added that he was
2 comfortable with the proposed changes.
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5 Motion by Councilmember Faust, second by Councilmember Thuesen, to approve
6 Resolution 02-054, re: Considering the four conditions as set by the Planning
7 Commission to allow construction of a Culver's Family Restaurant at 4000/4001 Silver
8 Lake Road.
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10 Motion carried unanimously,
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12 In addition, at their June 18, 2002 meeting, the Planning Commission recommended Council
13 approval of the following ordinance amendments:
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15 2. Consider amendment to City Ordinance relating to the definition of"garage" and
16 "accessory building" and to regulate the size of garages in residential districts.1s`
17 reading.
18 Councilmember Sparks asked if this ordinance would effect how something
19 would look from the outside. Stille stated that he did not think that it would.
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21 Jerry Gilligan stated that, regarding the particular house in question, the
appearance from the outside would not change. He continued that, as the code
reads now, the flooring of an attached garage is included in the building footprint;
24 a detached garage is not included in the floor area ratio.
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26 Gilligan suggested that a garage should either be included in the floor area ratio,
27 or not, regardless of whether or not the garage is attached.
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29 Councilmember Horst stated that he felt that a garage should be included as space
30 in the floor area ratio, but the amount of land coverage needs to be determined.
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32 Momson stated that this ordinance is regarding the blueprint of the building in
33 relation to the lot. He continued that they still have to comply with lot coverage,
34 which will still restrict the size of the house as well as setbacks.
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36 Morrison stated that the ordinance was to control the size of the house and that
37 there still exists a lot coverage ordinance.
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39 Mayor Hodson asked why they would want to make such a restriction. Mornson
40 stated that they are attempting to clear up the ordinance because the inspector has
41 interpreted garages as part of the principle structure.
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43 Morrison added that the way that the ordinance was written benefits the
44 homeowner in question.
It Resident Mike Ptak, 3505 Downers Drive, lives just to the east of the discussed
47 house, which, he stated, was massive. He stated that he disagrees with the
48 Planning Commission on this issue, as he feels that the homeowner would have a
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much less significant pitch on the house if he was unable to build above the
2 garage.
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4 Ptak continued that nothing as been violated up to this point regarding the house,
5 but he does not think that one house should have the potential to change an
6 ordinance. He added that he does not feel that a home of such a large stature
7 belongs in the City of St. Anthony.
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9 Resident Stan Nelson, 3504 Maplewood Drive, came forward and presented an
10 illustration of his view of the discussed home. He stated that they were looking at
11 a structure that looks very different from the front than the back.
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13 He continued that the new code would give the homeowner the opportunity to
14 further enlarge the structure. He showed the Council an example of a typical
15 home in St. Anthony, and pointed out the ways that it could be changed, if the
16 proposed ordinance was approved.
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18 Nelson recommended that the city hire an architect/expert to do some
19 hypothetical scenarios to determine the likelihood of promoting these large homes
20 because of the proposed ordinance change.
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Councilmember Horst stated that the comments from the residents were beneficial
16 and echoed the feelings of many of the residents of St. Anthony Village. He
24 added that Nelson's recommendation to hire an architect to review the discussed
25 situation and determine if the standard is right regarding the floor area ratio. He
26 added that he was not ready to vote on this amendment tonight.
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28 Mayor Hodson stated that he had difficulty in telling a resident that he is unable to
29 expand square footage if he is going up and maintains the proper height
30 requirements, etc.
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32 Mayor Hodson added that keeping the houses small does nothing for the city's tax
33 base.
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35 Councilmember Horst stated that he was not interested in keeping houses small,
36 but would like to set a maximum square footage based on the lot size.
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38 Gilligan stated that the difficulty was coming up with objective standards in the
39 zoning code, as well as coming up with a hardship.
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41 Councilmember Faust stated that he did not feel it was appropriate to determine
42 the size of house that a resident can have when the lot coverage ordinance already
43 does that. He suggested that they move this along to a second reading, and take a
AA look at the thousand square foot again with the Planning Commission.
6 Councilmember Thuesen stated that a garage is part of the overall structure of a
47 house. He stated that he was comfortable enough to move this along to a second
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reading, but had several unanswered questions before he felt that he could
2 approve an amendment to the ordinance.
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4 Councilmember Sparks stated that, if they were interested in limiting the size of a
5 house, this was not the way. She added that perhaps what they needed to change
6 was the floor area ratio.
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8 Stille stated that he felt that the Planning Commission should further examine the
9 issue and bring it back to the Council at a later date.
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11 Morrison informed the Council that the homeowner still does not have the ability
12 to finish the living space above the garage, even if they move forward to the
13 second reading.
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15 Councilmember Faust stated that there were three readings for the purpose of
16 public input. He added that moving the resolution along allows the Planning
17 Commission to come back to the Council with a proposed amendment.
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19 Councilmember Sparks clarified that the thousand square feet was not the issue,
20 but that the floor area ratio was what needed to be changed.
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Mayor Hodson stated that the Planning Commission should come back to the
16 Council with a recommendation and some information after they have gone
24 through this first reading.
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26 Motion by Councilmember Sparks, second by Councilmember Faust, to consider
27 an amendment to City Ordinance 2002-002.
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29 Motion carried 4-1, Horst opposed.
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31 3. Consider amendment to City Ordinance regulating the placement of ground signs.
32 1 st reading.
33 Stille stated that the Planning Commission was recommending that the placement
34 of ground signs be 15 feet from the curb.
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36 Mornson indicated that the Animal Hospital sign on 37`h Avenue was an example
37 of a sign that was 15 feet from the curb, which is the way that they have been
38 interpreting the ordinance.
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40 Motion by Councilmember Faust, second by Councilmember Sparks, to amend
41 City Ordinance 2002-003.
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43 Motion carried unanimously.
6 4. Consider amendment to City Ordinance to delete Section relating to wax in the
46- production of candles and the production of home fragrance products as a
47 manufacturing permitted use in the Light Industrial district. ls` reading.
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Motion by Councilmember Sparks, second by Councilmember Thuesen, to amend
2 City Ordinance 2002-004.
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4 Motion carried unanimously.
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6 VII. GENERAL POLICY BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL.
7 None.
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9 VIII. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
10 Mornson confirmed that there was no City Council meeting on July 9, 2002.
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12 Mornson stated that they have a joint meeting with the School Board July 30, 2002 at 6:00 p.m.
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14 Councilmember Horst had no report this evening.
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16 Councilmember Sparks had no report this evening.
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18 Councilmember Thuesen stated that he felt that the City of St. Anthony was very fortunate to
19 have the Police Force that they have in St. Anthony Village.
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21 Councilmember Faust stated that there was an auction on Silver Lake Road last week, which had
the police directing traffic. He asked Mornson if there was an ordinance pertaining to the traffic
46 congestion, etc.
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25 Councilmember Faust stated that he attended the League of Minnesota Cities annual conference
26 last week. He stated that one thing that came out of the conference that he feels that they should
27 look into next year was the Youth Delegation program to the League.
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29 Mayor Hodson stated that they had a well attended meeting this afternoon by aids to senators and
30 congressmen. He added that the comments that they heard were very favorable and very
31 supportive of the Northwest Quadrant redevelopment project as a Smart Growth City.
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33 Mayor Hodson stated that last week he and several others flew 260 youths up to Anoka-Blaine
34 for a Young Eagles Event.
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36 IX. INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.
37 None.
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39 X. MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATIONAL DOCUMENTS.
40 None.
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42 XI. ADJOURNMENT.
43 Motion by Councilmember Sparks, second by Councilmember Horst, to adjourn the meeting at
8:15 p.m.
6 Motion carried unanimously.
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Respectfully submitted,
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4 Courtney Seesz
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7 Mayor
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9 City Clerk
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