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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPL MINUTES 02181975 Meeting Sheet IIIIII VIII VIII VIII VIII VIII IIII IIII 106232 Box: 36 Folder: PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 1975 Document: PL MINUTES 02181975 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 18,1975 • The meeting was called to order by Chairman Letourneau at 7:34 P.M. Present for roll call: Marks, Letourneau, Hiebel as well as-new board members Rymarchick and Cowan. Absent: Bowerman & Johnson Also present: Jim Fornell, Adm. Asst. The minutes of the January 21 Board meeting were amended to correct the date from January 14th to January 21st. Motion by Mr. Marks and seconded by Mr. Cowan to approve the minutes of January 21st as amended. Motion carried. Mr. Bowerman arrived at 7:36 P.M. The Public Hearing on granting a conditional use permit to allow Twin City Federal Savings and Loan to build on the southeast corner of 39th Avenue N.E. and Silver Lake Road opened at 7:40 P.M. Present to speak on behalf of the conditional use request were Mr. Qordon Bluhm, Asst. Secy. of Twin City Federal; Mr. Howard Dahlgren, President of Midwest Planning & Research and Mr. Dale Einess the developer. Mr. Dahlgren gave Twin City Federal's request for a conditional use permit of two year's duration to build a savings and loan branch office on Lots 8, 9, 10 except the east 60 ft. thereof, Block 7, Mounds View Acres, 2nd Addition as well as for a variance to the City sign ordinance to allow a 2518" high, 88 sq. ft. pylon sign, which flashed the time and temperature, to be erected in front of the building. He said the request for a conditional use permit only covered that portion which was 236 x 263 ft., or 1.4 acres, which would be used for the banking operation and the remaining 225 feet to the south which they intended buying would be held for possible use as expansion parking space. Mr. D.,hlberg showed site plans including a probable landscaping plan and pictures of other savings and loan operations which Twin City Federal now has in the metro area saying the property would be developed in accordance with the princip- le and density as shown on the site plans. There was no definite floor plans for the building since Mr. Bluhm told the Board they were unable to state at this time whether a one story or two story building might be needed at the time of construction. He spoke of the possibility of having a savers club or community room similar to those other financial institut- ions now have. The banker said most of TCF's existing one-story buildings were 18 feet high and their two-story Ridgedale office was 39 feet high. -2- Mr. 2--Mr. Dahlberg told approximately 8 �%sidcn;;s of tha neighborhood in attendance that he felt the savings and loan institutinn vith the colonial facade planned for the building as well as +h� proposal to prcvide high density landscaping as a buffer between the parking tots and the residential area to the east represent- ed one of the best ways of retaining the residential character of the neighbor- hood, short of double bungalows which he felt would never be built there because of the difficulty in obtaining a mortgage. During his presentation he pointed out the driveway in front of the building which was planned to accomodate the handicapped and serve two drive in tellers on the north side of the building. Mr. Fred Lavicky, 3920 Macalaster Drive; Mrs. Chester Nelson, 3916 Macalaster Dr.; Mr. Terry Sult, 3909 Penrod Dane and Mrs. Ruth Thompson, 3015 39th Avenue N.E. voiced their objections to the access to the property from 39th Avenue, the height of the building if it were two stories and said they felt the plans were not definite enough to grant a permit and that two years was too long for the permit to be in force. Mr. Lavicky expressed his concern that the savings and lean institution might win approval to convert their operation to a full service bank. It was noted that under Section 300.13 (conditional use permit) of the City Ordinances a full service bank is not permitted. Mr. Johnson arrived at 8:07 P.M. Mr. Dahlberg said studies did not verify the contention that the financial operation would affect the normal amount of traffic on 39th Avenue generated by the Apache Plaza Shopping Center. Mr. Johnson expressed the concern of others that the drive in teller or tellers might necessitate more than the 8 stacking places anticipated by the site plans. The normal amount of traffic generated by a savings and loan institution as contrasted to a full service bank with check cashing services was discussed and Mr. Bluhm also pointed out how Saturday morning openings had cut down or. Friday night business. The residents present and the members of the Board expressed dissatisfaction with the proposed sign saying it was inconsistent with the residential character of the area and granting this variance would establish a precedent for dealing with future requests for all types of signs when the rest, of the land on Silver Lake Road is developed. The public hearing was closed at 8:40 P.M. and the meeting was recessed from 8:42 to 8:50 P.M. Before voting on the two requests, the Board members discussed what controls the City would have over the development of that portion of the land for which the financial institution had no specific plans and were in agreement that the public should be informed when the final plans came up for consideration by the Planning Board and Council. There was also some discussion of the TCF;s plans for night lighting of the proposed structure. Motion by Mr. Bowerman, seconded by Mr. Cowan to recommend that the Council grant a one year conditional use permit to Twin City Federal to construct a Twin City Federal Savings and Loan branch office on Lots 8, 9 and 10 except the east 60 ft. thereof, of Block 7, Mounds View Acres, 2nd Addition with the stipulation that all site plans and specifications must conform to all zoning and construction ordinances, in effect at the time of construction and must meet Council and • Planning Board approval with appropriate pilo lic notification. a _3_ Voting on the inction: • Aye: Rymarchick, Johnson, Marks, Cowan, Hiebel and Bowerman Nay: Letourneau Motion carried. Motion by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Marks to recommend that the Council deny the Twin City Federal request, as stated, for a variance to the sign ordinance because the sign would be a direct violation of the existing ordinance and there had been no evidence given to warrant granting the variation on a hardship basis. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bowerman will present the recommendations to the Council on February 25,1975• Motion by Mr. Marks, seconded by Mr. Hiebel to adjourn the meeting at 9:37 PM. for a work session at which the Board might consider Mr. Fornell's recommendations regarding the allowance of monumental signs under the City sign ordinance. Motion carried unanimously. The Planning Board discussed the proposed change in the sign ordinance but felt that any change in that ordinance should not be enacted until the proposed zoning ordinance is reviewed by the City Council as any change in the sign ordinance must be compatible with the zoning ordinance. • Helen Crowe, Secy. I