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Folder: PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 1977
Document: PL MINUTES 08161977
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
August 16, 1977
The meeting was called to order at 7: 42 P.M. by Chairman Hiebel .
Present for roll call: Cowan, Letourneau, Hiebel and Rymarchick .
Also present: Jim Fornell, Acting City Manager
Motion by Mr. Rymarchick and seconded by Mr. Hiebel to approve the
minutes for the July 19, 1977 Planning Board "meeting.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Cowan agreed to represent the Board at the Council meeting
August 23, 1977.
"The revised site plans for the Local No. 49 union hall proposed to
be built in the St. Anthony Office Park were presented by Mark
• Tritschler, Project Engineer for Rauenhorst Corporation. Changes
reflected input from the Board, Council and Staff and provided 140
parking spaces to accomodate the union office staff as well as
occasional large meetings of the membership. The building has been
set back to allow the potential expansion of County Road C. Mr.
Tritschler discussed the landscaping and lighting plans for the
building and said the applicants for a building permit would present
proof of an agreement where they could tradeoff parking spaces so
large groups of members who assembled at the hall once a year would
have off-street parking available.
Motion by Mr. Cowan and seconded by Mr. Letourneau to recommend to
the Council approval of a building permit to allow the union hall to
be constructed as proposed on Lot 2, Block 1, St. Anthony Office
Park Addition, subject to conformance with all applicable codes and
ordinances and conditional upon the union obtaining written permission
for enough other businesses in the office park to be able to use at
least 100 additional "off-site" parking spaces for meetings, should
the need for such spaces arise, and with final landscaping, signage
and lighting plans to be submitted for Board review.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Board considered Mr. Fornell 's August llth suggestion that the
$3, 500 allocated from the Community Development Block Grant funds
for a planning study of the St. Anthony Shopping Center quadrant be
• combined with the $3, 747 allocated to the City from the Metropolitan
Council for the comprehensive plan for the entire community which has
been mandated by the Metropolitan Land Planning Act. Under this
proposal the area bounded by Kenzie Terrace, St. Anthony Boulevard,
Highway 8 and Lowry Avenue would be dealt with under the comprehensive
plan as one of the problem areas in the community. Desiring not to
have overlapping studies, some of the Board saw merit in the proposal
in view of the apathy of some of the merchants to the rennovation
of the center and difficulty in contacting some of the ownership of
the center. However, when the Chairman said there was a possibility
there might be a trasnfer of ownership for the major portion of the
center and the Board concurred with him that funds designated for
the study of the area should be kept to establish some guidelines
for improving the economic viability and aesthetics of the area. They
wanted more immediate and specific steps taken than would probably
result from a community wide planning which might be years in coming.
Doug Jones , 2505 Silver Lane, said he would like to see traffic
patterns viewed with the residential character of the community in
mind when the study is made. Mr. Fornell said the increased de-
velopment north of the City might make it difficult to design roads
to accomodate only residential traffic.
Motion by Mr. Rymarchick and seconded by Mr. Cowan to keep the
Community Development funds for the purpose for which they were origin-
ally designated and separate from the Metropolitan Council funds for
• the mandated study and to request the Acting Manager to submit sug-
gested guidelines and objectives to be considered when interviewing
planning firms who will make a study of the shopping center area.
Motion carried unanimously.
At 8: 12 P.M. the Chairman opened the Public Hearing to consider a
variance petition for the recreational building proposed by Brigadier
Kish and the Salvation Army Camp Director, James Brown, to be con-
structed on the campgrounds within 100 feet of Silver Lake. No one
present reported not receiving the required notification of the
hearing.
Consideration was given to the August 10th letter from Mr. Brown citing
the justifications for granting the variance to the Recreational/Open
Space zoning which requires a 200 foot setback from the lake as well
as the camp director's August 9th detailing of future plans for the
camp. Also included in the Board's deliberations were Staff assess-
ments and recommendations as contained in Mr. Fornell 's memorandum of
August 12th.
Plans and a model of the recreational building which will house a
swimming pool and gymnasium and which at one point will be built
within 100 feet of Silver Lake, were presented by Cliff Komedahl of
Vanman Construction, 13000 Muriel Road, contractor for the project.
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He told Mr. Rymarchick that that site was selected instead of another
• further inland because of the poor soil conditions of the other
location. The fieldhouse was a part of the Master Plan for the camp
and the next building to be constructed soon, the conference/arts
and crafts building was proposed to the Council by Mr. Brown four
years ago, according to Mr. Komedahl. Building site for the latter
will be on the hill near the chapel. Dual ownership of the camp was
ended when the St. Paul and Minneapolis Salvation Army Chapters merged
the camp.
Mr. Fornell had researched the DNR regulations which might be applic-
able to this proposal at the request of Mr. Rymarchick and said the
DNR has no authority to regulate lake development in municipalities
but the proposed project was in conformance with DNR guidelines for
counities for a "recreational development" (medium environmental
restrictions) as they classified Silver Lake. Mr. Rymarchick objected
to this classification saying he certainly did .not consider Siler
Lake as "only recreational" .
Doug Jones was the only lake resident present to speak for or against
the proposal. He gave his wholehearted approval to the project be-
cause of the "excellent job of developing the camp resources by the
Salvation Army" and felt their opening the camp to the community
would result in the new improvements creating a "terrific addition
to the City" .
• Dick Klick, 3405 Harding Street N.E. , told how when he was a boy"
no one was allowed on the campgrounds" . As a Jaycees, and observing
"the openess with which the Salvation Army is now conducting their
affairs" , Mr. Klick viewed the whole operation as a tremendous en-
hancement for the City.
No one else spoke for or against the proposal.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8: 30 P.M.
Mr. Rymarchick said he had viewed the camp from the island just off
shore and was bothered by the visual impact of a building 10 times
larger than the caretakers cabin being built so close to the shoreline.
He also questioned whether a building that close might have an ad-
verse effect on the wildlife in the area. He said he was not con-
vinced hardship to the applicants would result from complying with
the 200 foot restrictions under ROS zoning but felt he could go along
with the variance if trees which will grow 40 or 50 feet tall are
provided as a visual screening ofthe building from Silver Lake.
Mr. Letourneau was concerned with setting a precedent for future
buildings around the lake and questioned whether the tree plantings
could justify a variance.
Motion by Mr. Rymarchick and seconded by Mr. Cowan to recommend to
the Council that a variance be granted to the Salvation Army which
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• will allow them to construct on their campgrounds at 2950 W. County
Road E the recreational building they propose building at the pro-
posed setback from Silver Lake, subject to a major planting of trees
which will grow from 40 to 50 feet tall between the building and the
lakeshore to minimize the visual impact of the new building and on
the condition that the breakoff block on the building be finished
in earth tones compatible to the natural surroundings.
Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was recessed at 8: 47 P.M. and reconvened at 8 : 50 P.M. for
a Public Hearing to consider the Detailed Plan, Residential Component,
of the Hedlund P.U.D. Approximately seven (7) residents were present
for the hearing but no one spoke either for or against the proposal.
No one reported failing to receive the required notification of the
hearing. The Board considered the Staff recommendations contained
in Mr. Fornell 's memorandum of August 12th including this suggestion
that the review of the Final Plan for the Residential Component be
waived since it is probably to the best interest of the City that
construction commences as soon as possible.
Mr. Hedlund was present and answered questions from the Board re-
garding his plans for developing the residential component of the
P.U.D. along Penrod Lane. He said he had "no concrete proposal as
how the 10 dwellings were to be built "but he did confirm the fact
• that Lot #10 would be 100 feet deep" .
Although some of the Board were concerned as to when the residential
staging would begin, it was concluded that they should not be concern-
ed with the time schedule since it appears to be an economic advantage
to the owner to start construction as soon as possible. They also
decided to concede to the City Attorney' s opinion that the City cannot
govern the architectural styling of the residences . Mr. Rymarchick
wanted Mr. Hedlund alerted to the risk of splitting the component of
the P.U.D. No action was taken to split the $24, 000 landscaping
bond required under the P.U.D.
The Public Hearing was closed at 9 :05 P.M.
Motion by Mr. Hiebel and seconded by Mr. Rymarchick to approve the
Detailed Plan, Residential Component, Hedlund P .U.D. for Lots 10-16,
Block 6, Mounds View Acres, Second Addition, as submitted and to
waive the Final Plan review of the Residential Component only.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Mr. Rymarchick and seconded by Mr. Hiebel to adjourn the
meeting at 9: 11 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
• Helen Crowe
Secretary
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