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Document: PL MINUTES 12111979
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
December 11, 1979
The meeting was called to order at 7 : 30 P.M. by Chairman Marks.
Present for roll call: Bjorklund, Marks, Rymarchick, Sopcinski and
and Enrooth
Absent: Jones and Bowerman
Also present: Jim Fornell, City Manager and Ron Berg, Administrative
Assistant
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Enrooth to approve as
submitted the minutes for the Planning Commission meeting held November
20, 1979.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Bjorklund will represent the Commission at the Council meeting
00 held December 18th.
At 7 : 35 P.M. the Chairman opened the Public Hearing on amendments
and additions to the City Parking Ordinance reading the notice of the
hearing which had been published in conformance with City and State
requirements. No one appeared to address the matter and the hearing
was closed at 7 : 38 P.M.
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Enrooth to recommend Council
approval of the amendments and additions to the City Parking Ordinance
which reduces the minimum size requirements for parking spaces to
9 x 19 feet which is consistent with the trend of smaller vehicles
and establishes minimum parking spaces for sit-down restaurants and
definitions of such establishments in order "to correct inadequacies
in the existing ordinance regarding sit down restaurants" .
Mr. Bjorklund reported on the tax increment financing seminar he and
Mayor Haik had attended saying there are almost no legal barriers to
the establishment of tax increment districts and he cited the monetary
advantages for municipalities he saw in such a program since the only
outstanding costs to the City might be those of providing its own
auditing which might also be paid out of the program funding.
Mr. Marks again urged Commission members to attend the State planning
seminar that week.
At 7 : 45 P.M. the Public Hearing was opened concerning the variances
which will be required to permit the development of Outlot A in the
St. Anthony Office Park as a machine shop and warehouse for Special
Parts, Inc.
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The Chairman read the notice of the hearing which had been published and
sent to all property owners within 200 feet of the property in question
in accordance with City and State requirements. There was no one present
who reported failure to receive such notice nor object to its content.
The Commission had been requested to give concept approval as well as
consider the variances for parking spaces and rearyard setbacks which
will be necessary before Mr. and Mrs. Robert Stafford of Special
Parts,may build in the St. Anthony Office Park, a building of similar
size as their present operation in New Hope.
Although the rearyard setback for the proposed building is five feet
under that required for a storage facility to separate it from a R-1
district, since the adjoining property is a cemetery, this and the land-
scaping required as screening between light industrial and residential
property are not the major concerns, Mr. Berg said. Commission members
however felt they should know whether parking requirements of the City
Zoning Ordinance had been strictly enforced for other property owners
in the park before they could consider permitting 70 (if the 9x19 foot
standard is adopted) where 113 are required.
Douglas C. Lingren of Korsunsky, Krank, Erickson Architects, Inc. and
Special Parts owners, Mr. and Mrs. Robert Stafford discussed the site,
parking and landscaping plans for the 40,000 sq. ft. building which will
provide office, machine shop and warehouse space for their operation.
• Mr. Stafford said he presently employs only 43 employees and would add
a second shift rather than expand the physical plant because the machinery
is so expensive. The business generates very little traffic from its
customers. The building will be approximately 21 feet high but not
more than 30 feet and the signage on the building will be less than
that allowed. If the building's dimensions were pared down it might
create hazardous working conditions in the machine shop.
The hearing was closed at 8 :09 .
The fact that the proposal called for a little more than half of the
required parking spaces bothered Mr. Rymarchick and Mr. Bjorklund who
indicated they might respond more positively if even 90 parking spaces
could be provided so there would be adequate parking should the building
be sold at a later date and usage changed. They did not feel they should
be forced to make a hasty decision by the delays and deadlines for the
project. Questions regarding the fact that quite a bit of the building
is to be used for warehousing, which requires less parking spaces, had
not been defined to the satisfaction of the Commission members. Mr. Marks
suggested the City ordinance regarding parking for such developments
is far more severe than might be necessary since the City had traditionally
required more parking than needed resulting in enforcing "asphalt
jungles" . Mr. Fornell pointed out the fact that there is rarely a
problem with parking in the office park and the machine shop might
be able to work out an arrangement with adjoining property owners for
additional parking space when it might be needed as had been done in the
case of the Teamsters building in the same park. He said staff sees
no problem with the proposal as made, that the ordinance is a basis
guide and that different types of manufacturing have differing parking
requirements. Mr. and Mrs. Stafford assured the Commission they did
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they did not anticipate any sale of the buiding, since the bonds don't
• expire for 28 years.
Motion by Mr. Bjorklund and seconded by Mr. Enrooth to table the request
for variances to build a light industrial structure for Special Parts,
Inc. on Outlot A of the St. Anthony Office Park because (1) the Comm-
ission cannot at this time determine what the association of parking
for the building is to that for the immediate neighborhood; (2) the
proposed variance for parking is severe and therefore warrant further
information. (3) the owners have not adequately answered the question
of how applying the 9 x 19 parking size policy will affect the number
of parking spaces which can be provided; (4) the screening to the
west and southwest has not been addressed, and, although based on
staff findings in these areas, it seems likely adequate variances might
be granted, the Commission therefore makes no recommendations.
However, the Commission finds in tabling the matter there is no dispute
with proper variances for a 15 foot rearyard setback since the subject
property is located in an isolated area and adjacent property owners
have expressed no concern about the development. The Commission would
stipulate however, that a final landscaping plan be submitted for approval
should the proposal receive Council approval.
Voting on the motion.
Aye: Bjorklund, Enrooth, Sopcinski and Rymarchick
• Nay: Marks
Motion to table carried.
James Ruvelson of Ruvelson and Associates, Inc. 4017 Central Avenue N.E.
appeared to request the variances necessary to permit Red Owl to replace
their previous signage which was over 1, 000 square feet in area which
included a tall pylon owl on their building at 2550 Highway 88 with 503
square feet of signage on the front and side of the building facing
Highway 88 . He conceded that Red Owl had erred in not presenting their
signage request before they proceeded with their remodeling plans,
which will incorporate their grocery business with the associated
Snyder Drug store operation, but said he understood the company felt
they were justified in anticipating such signage in view of their presence
in the shopping center for so many years and the possibility that the centers
economic viability might be increased with their continued presence
and improved signage.
The question of whether the signage requirements should be based on one
or two frontages with the latter justifying 270 square feet of signage
or whether the separate business operations should each be allowed
so much signage was raised with Mr. Rymarchick expressing his concern
that the signage requested was almost triple the 180 allowed under
the existing City ordinance. He also said unless the drug and grocery
businesses are physically separated by a wall he could not see how they
could be considered as two separate entities. Precedence _ which have
been set in the instances of the Country Store and Sibley, where maximum
signage permitted under City ordinance was exceeded in an effort to
improve the ,economic health of the Apache shopping area, were cited in
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Mr. Berg's December 7th assessment of the request which had been provided
� in the agenda.
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Bjorklund to recommend
Council approval of signage proposed for Red Owl in the drawings dated
November 29 , 1979 finding that the signage proposed for the store is
only 50% of that previously on the building which was also in non con-
formance with the existing City Sign Ordinance and the proposed signage
compliments the exterior redesigning of the building and gives balance
to the building and the sign size.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Ruvelson then presented the proposed new signage for the Sibley
Store at Apache which had been ordered to be presented in January for
Council approval. Commission members indicated they were pleased with
the proposed signage which they saw as an improvement over the signage
allowed temporarily on that building and that they would report to
the Council on the progress and timetable.
The meeting was recessed at 9 :40 P.M. and reconvened at 9 : 50 P.M. for
concept review of the senior housing site plans for the property between
the American Legion building and the Lowry Mobile Home Manor on Kenzie
Terrace. Presenting the plans and discussing the actions necessary
to permit a four story building for the elderly consisting of 134
units were Archie Fjeld 2831 Johnson Street N.E. , representing the
• non profit development corporation who are backing the proposed
development and Jack Boarman of Boarman Architects who had drawn up the
plans for the project. Mr. Fjeld told of the 13 member board repres-
enting the consortium of N.E. churches who are seeking the financing
for this project to aid the elderly and introduced another board member,
Martin Fredrick whose home is directly behind the site at 2604 - 27th
Avenue N.E. Mr. Fjeld discussed the possibility of tax increment
financing of the project through the City though he said other funding
is very possible. He added that only a 134 unit structure would be
economically feasible.
Mr. Boarman who said he had been selected by this board to prepare the
drawings for the project because of his experience with a similar
development supported by the Trinity Lutheran Church said there are
approximately 95,000 square feet involved for the four story building
and the site includes the G & G Body Shop property. The building
will be about 40 feet high and apparently meet the setback requirements
of the City Ordinance. However, as pointed out in Mr. Berg' s December
7th assessment of the proposal, the zoning will have to be changed
from its existing R-1 to R-4 classification and variances to permit
a four story 40 feet high building to be built where only three stories
or 35 foot high building are allowed. Other components of the plan
which exceed ordinance regulations are the floor area ratio (1.18 vs.
1. 00) , area density (46 units vs. 134 units) , and parking space prov-
ision (43 vs. 65) . Also a screening landscaping plan will have to
• be submitted and approved.
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The
5-The Commission discussed with the proponents what effect this proposal
may have with the comprehensive plan. The Commission also advised the
representatives of the neighborhood opposition encountered for a
similar project which was proposed on Silver Lake Road.
Due to certain dead lines which need to be met the representatives
asked that a public hearing to consider the variances and rezoning be
set up for January. The Commission agreed to recommend this to the
Council.
The proponents were advised to come to the hearing well provided for
with essential data to allay the concerns of neighbors regarding parking,
screening, and density of the proposed project since a similar proposal
for the property across Silver Lake Road from Apache had received
opposition from the neighbors. Mr. Boarman and Mr. Fjeld agreed to
meet with staff prior to the hearing and said they were also going to
personally contact the residents as well as church groups in that
_ _neighborhood to explain the proposal prior to the hearing.
Gordon Hedlund had learned of the Council ' s refusal to include a
classification of a service office print shop in the City' s Zoning
Ordinance,as had been recommended by the Commission, so they could
consider his request to place such a facility in the residence he
owns which is governed by the Hedlund PUD. Since their recommendation
for approval had been unanimous he wanted them to repeat it for Council
action but the Commission felt this would be a non productive effort
• on their part. However, they did suggest that Mr. Bjorklund try to
clarify with the Council their intentions regarding the classification
of such facilities under the commercial and light industrial design-
ation in the City Zoning Ordinance which they did not address in
their motion of denial. Mr. Fornell also pointed out to Mr. Hedlund
that some municipalities restrict all printing establishments to higher
intensity districts, and that the Planning Commission ' s role is
advisory. The developer will appear before the Council to pursue
the matter.
After viewing the survey of the Blanske property at 3829 Foss Road,
which had been amended to identify the location of Sunset Lane, the
Commission wondered if they wanted to recommend vacation of the south
half of that roadway to set up the property for a mini storage facility
about which many of the neighbors had appeared at the last meeting to
express their concern.
Motion by Mr. Bjorklund and seconded by Mr. Rymarchick to recommend
Council denial of the Blanske request that the City vacate the south
half of the street known as Sunset Lane because future appropriate
access to a potential public park and the water retention pond as
well as proper maintenance and reconstruction of utilities in place
might be denied; slope, drainage, ground topography and subsoil cond-
itions have not been addressed; and there are already land use conflicts
in the area which may be amplified through the resulting use of the
• adjoining property if the proposed vacation is approved.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Commission directed the City staff to research a proposed Fence
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ordinance during the next year after some already initiated projects
have been completed in response to a request by the property owners
on Murray Avenue N.E.
Mr. Berg researched Minnesota statutes providing for time off from
employment for City officials for meetings and conferences and provided
this information in the agenda as requested by Mr. Sopcinski who said
he intends to contact his employers to clarify their willingness to
allow him to participate in the learning process which he believes
so essential to being a productive member of the Planning Board.
This prompted a discussion of the filling the vacancies on the Board
resulting from the resignations of Mr. Marks who was elected to the
Council and Mr. Rymarchick, who said he could no longer give the job
the attention he felt it deserved. The latter suggested attendance
should be emphasized to th-e applicants being interviewed for the
positions on the Commission. Mr. Bjorklund felt minorities and
women should be sought to fill the vacancies_but_ Mr. _Sopcinski__ felt _the
willingness to make the time committment necessary to serve on the
Commission was more important.
Chairman Marks and Mr. Rymarchick gave their farewells and received the
commendations of their fellow Commission members for their years of
service and together they made the motion to adjourn the meeting at
11: 50 P.M.
• Motion carried unanimously.
Helen Crowe,
Secretary
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ADDENDUM TO PLANNING COM11ISSION MINUTES
OF DECEMBER 11, 1979
The following is to be substituted as the discussion on the Senior
Building matter:
The meetingwas recessed at 9 :40
p.m. and reconvened at 9 : 50 p.m.
for concept review of the senior housing site plans for the pro-
perty between the American Legion building and the Lowry Mobile
Home Manor on Kenzie Terrace. Presenting the plans and discussing
the actions necessary to permit a four story building for the
elderly consisting of 134 units were Archie Fjeld, 2831 Johnson
Street N.E. , representing the non-profit development corporation
who are backing the proposed development; and Jack Boarman, of
Boarman Architects, who had drawn up the plans for the project.
Mr. Fjeld told of the thirteen member board representing the con-
sortium of northeast churches who are seeking the financing for
this project to aid the elderly and introduced another board member ,
Martin Fredrick, whose home is directly behind the site at 2604
27th Avenue N.E. Mr. Fjeld discussed the possibility of tax in-
crement financing of the project through the City though he said
other funding is very possible. He added that only a 134 unit
structure would be economically feasible.
• Mr. Boarman, who said he had been selected by this board to prepare
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the drawings for the project because of his experience with a simi-
lar development supported by the Trinity Lutheran Church, said there
are approximately 95, 000 square feet involved for the four story
building and the site includes the G & G Body Shop property. The
building will be about forty feet high and apparently meet the set-
back requirements of the City Ordinance. However, as pointed out
in Mr. Berg' s December 7th assessment of the proposal, the zoning
will have to be changed from its existing R-1 to R-4 classification
and variances to permit a four story forty foot high building to
be built where only three stories or a 35 foot high building are -
allowed. Other components of the plan which exceed ordinance regu-
lations are the floor area ratio (1. 18 vs. 1.00) , area density (46
units vs. 134 units) , and parking space provision (43 vs . 45) .
Also, a screening landscaping plan will have to be submitted and
approved.
Mr. Boarman said he was certain the plans could be modified to
permit expansion of the parking area if additional parking should
be required at a later date, but he was also willing to try to ne-
gotiate a shared parking agreement with the Legion Post to provide
additional parking for guests, should that ever become necessary.
He pointed out the fact that most residents of this type of facility
are widowed women, many of whom do not have cars, which makes this
an ideal location according to HUD' s standards because of easy
accessibility to bus transportation and shopping facilities, as
• well as medical services.
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• Addendum to Planning Commission Minutes Page 2
of December 11, 1979
Mr. Fornell 's October 4 preliminary review of such a facility for
the elderly had been provided in the agenda and he told the Commis-
sion he disagreed with Mr. Bjorklund' s objections to considering
the site financing as a part of the project consideration, saying
"If the City needs elderly housing, it may take a joint effort of
the proponents and the City to make it possible. " He answered
concerns about the eventuality of the project being dropped after
the zoning had been changed by telling the Commission the City can
conditionally rezone the property for this use exclusively. Fol-
lowing a long discussion, it was finally agreed this proposal might
be viewed as the first step in the improvement of the Kenzie Terrace
area as proposed under the Comprehensive Plan.
Due to certain deadlines, the representatives asked that a public
hearing to consider the variances and rezoning be set up for January.
The Commission agreed to recommend this to the Council.
The Commission, however, advised the representatives of the neighbor-
hood opposition encountered for a similar project which was proposed
on Silver Lake Road. The proponents were advised to come to the
hearing well provided for with essential data to allay the concerns
of neighbors regarding parking, screening, and density of the pro-
posed project since a similar proposal for the property across
Silver Lake Road from Apache had received opposition from the neigh-
bors. Mr. Boarman and Mr. Fjeld agreed to meet with staff prior to
the hearing and said they were also going to personally contact
the residents as well as church groups in that neighborhood to ex-
plain the proposal prior to the hearing.
Motion by Mr. Marks and seconded by Mr. Bjorklund to set a Public
Hearing before the Planning Commission for January 15 , 1980, to
consider the application for rezoning the property on Kenzie Terrace
from R-1, single family dwelling, to R-4 and the variances necessary
for the senior housing proposed for the site between the Legion
Post and the mobile home manor.
Motion carried unanimously .
The Manager said, though only the property owners within 200 feet
of the site are required to be notified of the variance hearing,
notices will be sent to all property owners within 350 feet, which
is the zoning requirement.
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