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Folder: PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 2003
Document: PL MINUTES 03182003
1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
5 March 18, 2003
6 7:00 p.m.
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9 I. CALL TO ORDER.
10 Chair Melsha called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
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12 II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
13 Chair Melsha invited the Commission and audience to join in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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15 III. ROLL CALL.
16 Commissioners present: Chair Melsha; Commissioners Hanson, Stromgren, and Tillman.
17 Absent: Vice Chair Stille and Commissioners Hoska and Steeves.
18 Also present: Assistant City Manager Susan Hall.
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20 IV. PUBLIC INPUT.
21 Hearing no comments, Chair Melsha moved forward with the agenda.
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23 V. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
24 Chair Melsha moved Item 7.1 to follow Item 8.3 on the agenda.
9 Motion by Commissioner Hanson, second by Commissioner Tillman, to approve the meeting
27 agenda with the noted change above.
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29 Motion carried unanimously.
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31 VI. MEETING MINUTES.
32 6.1 Review/Approval of the Planning Commission meeting minutes of February 18, 2003.
33 Motion by Commissioner Hanson, second by Chair Melsha, to approve the Planning
34 Commission meeting minutes of February 18, 2003 as presented.
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36 Motion carried unanimously.
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38 VIII. INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION.
39 8.1 Discuss Proposed Pawnbroker Ordinance.
40 Susan Hall explained that for the past couple of Planning Commission meetings, Commissioners
41 have discussed the proposed pawnbroker and second hand goods ordinances amongst themselves
42 and with Chris Smith of Dorsey and Whitney. Mr. Smith has made revisions to the proposed
43 ordinances, per the last conversation. The latest drafts have been provided to the Planning
44 Commission for their review.
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46 Ms. Hall advised that Captain John Ohl of the St. Anthony Village Police Department has also
itreviewed the ordinances and his comments have been incorporated into the latest draft.
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Ms. Hall pointed out that there is nothing in the ordinance as to specific license fees, as this will
2 be incorporated into the list in Section 615 of the City Code. Thus, when the City Council passes
3 the pawnbroker ordinance, it will also need to amend Section 615. She also noted that there is
4 not any added security language in Section 566.12(L), relating to firearms and weapons, as they
5 are completely banned under the ordinance.
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7 Ms. Hall explained that once the new ordinances are finalized, they will be forwarded to the City
8 Council for recommendation.
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10 Chair Melsha asked for questions or comments from Police Captain Ohl. Police Captain Ohl
11 stated the potential for a pawnshop in the City of St. Anthony is a growing concern. He noted
12 this type of establishment requires more police activity than normal retail stores due to the risk
13 of stolen merchandise. Police Captain Ohl indicated the one-year moratorium has allowed the
14 City time to create an Ordinance to address these concerns.
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16 Police Captain Ohl explained he felt the Ordinance was a workable document at this time and
17 may be revisited if an establishment were to attempt making St. Anthony its home. He noted he
18 has been working with the City of Minneapolis and thanked the Commission for their input to
19 date.
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21 Chair Melsha questioned if all concerns were being addressed by this Ordinance at this time.
Police Captain Ohl stated he feels all issues are addressed but noted it could be revisited if
16 application were made within the City.
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25 Chair Melsha asked if the reimbursement and licensing fees were reasonable. Police Captain
26 Ohl stated he feels they were adequate at this time and noted it could be greater addressed and
27 monitored if a pawnshop were to locate within the City.
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29 Discussion ensued regarding merchandise items that are exempt from concern versus items that
30 are listed as potential stolen goods.
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32 Commissioner Hanson questioned the difference between a secondhand goods store versus a
33 pawnshop. Police Captain Ohl stated a pawnshop offers loans for merchandise at an interest rate
34 whereas a secondhand goods dealer would not offer any financial handouts for donations made.
35 He then reviewed the penalties and policies that occur when stolen goods are found within a
36 pawnbroker establishment.
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38 Chair Melsha recommended the first Public Hearings be held in April of 2003 for the
39 Pawnbroker and Secondhand Goods Ordinances.
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41 8.2 Discuss Potential Adult Day Care Amendment to Zoning Ordinance.
42 Susan Hall explained that in January, Health Care Plus, Inc. approached City staff and the City
43 Council requesting an amendment to the City's zoning code to allow adult day care in the
commercial zoning district. The City Council has referred the issue to the Planning Commission
for further study and consideration. Currently, day care for adults is not a permitted use in the
commercial zoning district,while day care for children is allowed.
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Ms. Hall stated that staff has assembled information about some of the state statutes and rules as
2 well as what other cities have done related to adult day care. All in all, the State highly regulates
3 the area and it takes a license to operate an adult day care center. The City can take some
4 comfort in this. Ms. Hall noted that pertinent information related to the physical plant, space
5 requirements, building, and fire code for adult day care has been provided for the Planning
6 Commission's review.
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8 Ms. Hall advised that some cities in the metro area have adopted amendments regarding adult
9 day care centers, which have been provided to the Planning Commission. In most cases, an
10 application is pulled for a conditional use permit. Under a conditional use permit scenario, a city
1 1 can look at the conditions on a case-by-case scenario.
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13 In summary, Ms. Hall presented the following parameters that cities consider as follows:
14 • Adult Day Care Center is defined(i.e. Golden Valley).
15 • Parking requirements (i.e. New Hope).
16 • Specific loading/drop off requirements(i.e. New Hope).
17 • Adequate site circulation.
18 • Set hours of operation(i.e. 8 a.m. —5 p.m. Monday—Friday).
19 • How many are served at the location(i.e. 12 or fewer, Shakopee).
20 • The total usable indoor space available for participants must equal to at least so many square feet
21 for each day care participant and each staff member(i.e. Shakopee).
• Outdoor recreation area required (i.e. New Hope). Outdoor leisure/recreation areas located and
I? designated to minimize visual and noise impacts on adjacent areas(i.e. Shakopee).
24 • Comply with all other State licensing requirements.
25 • Some cities allow adult day care centers in other various districts (i.e. Shakopee, Golden Valley).
26 Golden Valley allows adult day care in the commercial, light
27 industrial, industrial,business and professional offices, and institutional zoning districts.
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29 Ms. Hall advised that staff contacted the City of Golden Valley, which has a conditional use
30 permit process. She noted the copy of a conditional use permit that had been issued for an adult
31 day care in the industrial zoning district. In addition, City staff has learned from talking with the
32 Department of Human Services that non-residential zoning seems to be the best fit for the adult
33 day care use.
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35 Ms. Hall noted that another City that staff contacted, the City of Eagan, has a freestanding adult
36 day care center. However, Eagan has not made any zoning changes for this. Eagan staff said a
37 couple of years ago an adult day care center went into a larger office building. The adult day care
38 center encompasses 1,000 square feet. Their hours of operation are from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. They
39 have 18-20 participants on a given day. They don't offer specialized care or treatments, but
40 rather, it's more of a gathering place. The City of Eagan staff said the space is compatible with
41 the use of adult day care as far as the City is concerned.
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43 Ms. Hall explained that in the end, the City Council will look for a recommendation from the
Planning Commission on the issue of whether the adult day care use should be permitted, or not,
It and just in the commercial zoning district.
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Chair Melsha stated with the State requirements the City is left to regulate only a few things.
2 Ms. Hall indicated this was correct and stated the Commission would need to address what
3 zoning district an adult daycare facility would be allowed as well as some parameters in the
4 zoning district.
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6 Commissioner Tillman stated she felt an adult daycare should be dealt with the same way as a
7 children's daycare facility. Chair Melsha indicated he felt many of the State requirements would
8 address the differences between an adult daycare versus a child daycare facility.
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10 Commissioner Stromgren explained he felt the City of Golden Valley's Ordinance was the most
11 straight forward for the City to address and adopt. Chair Melsha agreed stating this was the most
12 simple Ordinance to proceed with.
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14 Commissioner Tillman stated she felt the child daycare Ordinance could be used and just altered
15 to read adult daycare. Chair Melsha noted he would like to see the Commission greater address
16 the loading and parking issues as they would differ from a child daycare center.
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18 Commissioner Tillman asked if any concerns were raised about having an adult daycare as a
19 permitted use. Ms. Hall indicated she has not heard anything to date.
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21 Chair Melsha asked what the Commission needed to do tonight. Ms. Hall noted this Ordinance
was up for discussion at this time and indicated the Commissioners needed to decide if this use
was a conditional or permitted use.
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25 Chair Melsha suggested this item be discussed in greater detail at the April meeting because
26 three members from the Commission were absent.
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28 VII. COMMUNICATION WITH CITY COUNCIL.
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30 7.1 Designate a Planning Commission member to the City Council regular meeting of
31 March 25, 2003.
32 Chair Melsha indicated that Commissioner Tillman was available to attend the next City Council
33 meeting on March 25, 2003.
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35 IX. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
36 Commissioner Hanson indicated on that on March 19, 2003, Village Blend would be opening at
37 Apache Plaza.
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39 Ms. Hall handed out a Government Training Workshop schedule for the Commissioners to
40 review. She asked that any Commissioners who were interested in attending the workshops to
41 contact her so she could get them signed up.
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43 Ms. Hall updated the Planning Commission on the Apache Plaza redevelopment process. She
noted there was an informational stakeholder meeting on March 27, 2003 from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00
go p.m.
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Commissioner Hanson asked if the City received any feedback from the article in the paper
2 regarding the redevelopment. Ms. Hall indicated there was a lot of positive feedback from the
3 article and stated staff was pleased with how the article turned out.
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5 X. ADJOURNMENT.
6 Motion by Commissioner Hanson, second by Commissioner Stromgren, to adjourn the meeting
7 at 7:45 p.m.
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9 Motion carried unanimously.
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12 Respectfully submitted,
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