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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 18, 2009
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. CALL TO ORDER.
II. ROLL CALL.
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IV. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA.
V. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 21, 2009.
VI. COMMUNICATION WITH CITY COUNCIL.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
NONE
VIII. CONCEPT REVIEWS.
VIIIA. Autumn Woods Assisted Living Project
IX. OTHER BUSINESS.
IX. Review of Fence Height Ordinance
X. REPORTS FROM STAFF.
XI. COMMUNITY FORUM. Individuals may address the Planning Commission about any item notmdudedon
the regular agenda. Speakers are requested to come to the podium, sign their name and address on the form at
the podium, state their name and address for the Clerk's record, and limit their remarks to five minutes. The
Planning Commission may refer the matter to staff for a future report or direct the matter to be scheduled on an
upcoming agenda.
XII. INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.
XIII.ADJOURNMENT.
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I CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
2
3 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
4
5 JULY 21, 2009
6 7:00 p.m.
7
8
9 I. CALL TO ORDER
10
11 Chair Stromgren called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
12
13 II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
14
15 Chair Stromgren invited the Commission and the audience to join him in the Pledge of Allegiance.
16
17 III. ROLL CALL.
18
19 Commissioners Present: Chairperson Stromgren; Commissioners Cincoski, Jensen,Heinis,
20 Jenson, Crone, and Chaput.
21 Absent: None.
22 Also Present: Assistant City Manager Kim Moore-Sykes.
23
24 IV. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA.
25
26 Motion by Commissioner Jensen, second by Commissioner Crone, to approve the Planning
27 Commission Meeting Agenda of July 21, 2009.
28
29 Motion carried unanimously.
30 -
31 V. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
32
33 Motion by Commissioner Crone, second by Commissioner Chaput, to approve the June 16, 2009
34 Meeting Minutes as presented.
35
36 Motion carried 6-0-1 (Jenson).
37
38 VI. COMMUNICATION WITH CITY COUNCIL
39
40 None.
41
42 VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
43
44 VII.1. FENCE VARIANCE—2912 SILVER LAKE COURT
45
46 Chair Stromgren opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
47
48 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes presented the staff report on the fence height variance
49 request for the property located at 2912 Silver Lake Court. The owner of 2912 Silver Lake Court,
Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes
July 21, 2009
Page 2
1 Mr. Ronald Severson, contacted staff about the process for obtaining a two foot variance to the
2 City's fence ordinance at Subsection 150.072, (C) Fence Size. The City's ordinance restricts the
3 height of fences at the building setback or behind to six feet. Mr. Severson reported that he is
4 requesting to be able to replace his six foot back fence with an eight foot back fence. He
5 explained that his property is adjacent to 2916 Silver Lake Court, the owners of which were
6 granted a two foot variance in 2008 to install an eight foot back fence to block out traffic noise
7 and street lights from Silver Lake Road. Mr. Severson indicated that he too, has to deal with the
8 same traffic noise and street light issues from Silver Lake Road. Staff provided Mr. Severson
9 with information about the application and approval process for obtaining a variance, including a
10 timeline. He attended a concept review before the Planning Commission to explain his request
11 and receive input from the Commission. Staff received Mr. Severson's completed application on
12 May 26, 2009. Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes reviewed the findings of fact according to
13 requirements necessary to qualify for a variance. She advised the Commission is requested to
14 approve or deny the two-foot variance request to the City's Fence Height Ordinance based on the
15 findings of fact as derived from information presented by the applicants and staff. She reported
16 that staff has received no calls of concern about the installation of the higher fence.
17
18 Ms. Jennie Patrick stated she is present on behalf of her father, Mr. Ronald Severson.
19
20 Chair Stromgren noted the adjacent property was granted a similar variance based on their
21 unique condition. The property is backed up to Silver Lake Road. There is not only traffic noise
22 and streetlights, but the property is impacted by lights from businesses in New Brighton, which
23 is outside of St. Anthony's jurisdiction. Some of the businesses, such as the Laundromat, have
24 late hours and bright lights.
25
26 Commissioner Chaput asked if the original fence is currently on the property. Ms. Patrick replied
27 the fence is fairly old and repairs have been done.
28
29 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes stated the applicant had reported that due to the slope at
30 the back of the property the fence goes down significantly.
31
32 Chair Stromgren closed the public hearing at 7:12 p.m.
33
34 Motion by Commissioner Jensen, seconded by Commissioner Jenson, to recommend approval of
35 the two-foot variance request to the City's Fence Height Ordinance based on the findings of fact,
36 2912 Silver Lake Court.
37
38 Motion carried unanimously.
39
40 Chair Stromgren noted this item will be on the July 28,2009 City Council meeting agenda.
41
42 VII.2 T-MOBILE CUP—CUP KENZIE TERRACE
43
44 Chair Stromgren opened the public hearing at 7:13 p.m.
45
Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes
July 21, 2009
Page 3
1 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes presented the staff report on the Conditional Use Permit
2 (CUP)request by T-Mobile. Mr. Jed Kruchten, T-Mobile, contacted staff about the process for
3 obtaining a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow for the placement of cell phone antennas on
4 the roof of the Kensington of St. Anthony, a condominium planned unit development at 2601
5 Kenzie Terrace. Mr. Kruchten reported to staff that he had met with the Kenzington Board
6 regarding a telecommunication antenna proposal and the Board agreed to allow the installation
7 of the antenna and related equipment. After receiving approval from the Kenzington Board, Mr.
8 Kruchten met with staff to further discuss the CUP process. Staff advised Mr. Kruchten of the
9 timeline for the approval process and encouraged him to schedule a concept review of the
10 project. A concept review was held for T-Mobile at the April 21, 2009 Planning Commission
11 meeting. The T-Mobile application was submitted to the City and received by staff on May 18,
12 2009, with a public hearing scheduled for June 16, 2009. Staff received information from T-
13 Mobile that due to a backup in their workload, T-Mobile wanted to reschedule the public hearing
14 for their application for July 21, 2009. The 60-Day Rule expired on July 17, 2009 and a letter
15 was sent to Mr. Kruchten on May 26, 2009, advising him that the City would require an
16 extension to the 60-Day Rule in order to provide a review of the CUP application at a public
17 hearing on July 21, 2009 with the Planning Commission, and with City Council action on the
18 Planning Commission recommendation at the July 28, 2009 City Council meeting. Assistant City
19 Manager Moore-Sykes stated the applicant has followed the procedure in applying for the CUP
20 as outlined in Section 152.243 Conditional Use Permits. She reviewed the criterion for
21 consideration in the CUP request.
22
23 Mr. Lee Skaalerud, T-Mobile, addressed the Planning Commission and provided information on
24 the CUP request by T-Mobile to allow for the placement of cell phone antennas on the roof of
25 the Kensington of St. Anthony, 2601 Kenzie Terrace.
26
27 Commissioner Jenson inquired about the setback from the edge of the building to the antennas.
28 Mr. Skaalerud replied the building is 57 feet tall. The antennas will be 65 feet high and will be
29 located about five feet back from the edge of the wall.
30
31 Commissioner Jenson questioned if there are engineering specifications on how far the antennas
32 can be set back. Mr. Skaalerud explained that the antennas would be set back as far as possible
33 while clearing the roofline. This would be in the nature of five to six feet. Commissioner Jenson
34 verified with Mr. Skaalerud that the antennas will not be visible from the road.
35
36 Mr. Skaalerud indicated that the equipment box will be located at the back of the building, and
37 that T-Mobile has one of the smallest equipment footprints of any wireless carriers.
38
39 Commissioner Heinis verified with Mr. Skaalerud that the equipment box could be located closer
40 to the building if requested and that there will not be transmission waves emitting from the
41 equipment.
42
43 Commissioner Cincoski inquired about any safety issues associated with the equipment box. Mr.
44 Skaalerud stated the radio and battery equipment is located in a locked cabinet. The power is 200
45 amp, single volt.
46
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July 21, 2009
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1 Commissioner Jenson inquired about additional antennas being added in the future. Mr.
2 Skaalerud replied that T-Mobile is proposing a total of nine antennas at this time. The antennas
3 are needed for call capacity.
4
5 Commissioner Chaput inquired about the likelihood of co-location with another company on the
6 rooftop in the future. Mr. Skaalerud indicated that T-Mobile would have no objection if the
7 condo association were to enter into another agreement for additional antennas.
8
9 Commissioner Jenson questioned if there are any safety concerns for the residents. Mr.
10 Skaalerud replied that the signal comes off the antenna and shoots out. Once you are down on the
11 ground there is no measurable signal. He stated the FCC guide pamphlet discusses safety issues;
12 the Telecommunications Act of 1996 precludes local boards from considering RF exposure as a
13 safety factor in denying these requests.
14
15 Commissioner Jensen inquired whether it would be an issue to increase the three foot clearance
16 proposed between the equipment box and the fencing to five or six feet for maintenance. He also
17 inquired about including trees and shrubs for screening. Mr. Skaalerud indicated that T-Mobile
18 would agree to these requests.
19
20 Commissioner Jensen suggested the CUP include the ability to allow some type of enhancement
21 or minor size increases/change-outs of the antennas. Mr. Skaalerud explained that antennas have
22 been getting smaller and more efficient; any changes would be to smaller antennas.
23
24 Chair Stromgren inquired about the status of the agreement between T-Mobile and the condo
25 association. Mr. Skaalerud stated he believes a lease has been agreed to. He met with the
26 association several months ago and went over the placement of the antenna. A representative of
27 the association is present tonight.
28
29 Mr. Skaalerud reviewed the T-Mobile Coverage Map and explained that the proposed antennas
30 will substantially improve the quality of coverage.
31
32 Mr. Edward Brozak, 2601 Kenzie Terrace#230, addressed the Planning Commission and stated
33 he was asked to let the Commission know that the condo association voted on this. The majority
34 of the association is fine with this as long as it does not interfere with their televisions and
35 antennas.
36
37 Mr. Steve Daylor,Vice President of the Kenzington Association Board, addressed the Planning
38 Commission and stated he recently became a member of the Association Board. He questioned
39 if the equipment box will emit any noise. Mr. Skaalerud replied that the radio equipment is
40 silent. Sometimes an air conditioner and heater will be put in the box to maintain the
41 temperature.
42
43 Mr. Daylor asked if the equipment box could be placed in a different location. Mr. Skaalerud
44 replied that T-Mobile would be happy to put it anyplace that makes sense. The proposed location
45 is where the previous Board wanted the box to be located.
46
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July 21, 2009
Page 5
1 Chair Stromgren indicated that any adjustments made between the Kenzington Board and T-
2 Mobile should be provided at the City Council meeting on Tuesday.
3
4 Mr. Daylor questioned if the antennas will affect Sprint and A T &T users within the building.
5 Mr. Skaalerud replied that the signal will not reach anyone within the building. As far as other
6 cell phone carriers, T-Mobile operates at a range that is different than emergency service or other
7 cell phone carriers, and is much different than radio or TV antennas. The antennas will not
8 interfere with any other signals.
9
10 Mr. Don Miller addressed the Planning Commission and stated he was Vice President of the
11 Kenzington Board until one month ago when his term expired. The Board met with T-Mobile
12 two or three times and went over the location and the best way to do this. The antennas were
13 approved by the Board. There are 180 people in the building; everyone that attended the meeting
14 and the people they talked to all agreed this is a good thing. It will not do damage to any TV
15 reception in the building.
16
17 Chair Stromgren closed the public hearing at 7:47 p.m.
18
19 Commissioner Jensen suggested it may be preferable to relocate the equipment box to allow a
20 larger space between the box and fence for maintenance, and that a distance of five to six feet
21 would allow for better emergency response.
22
23 Motion by Commissioner Jensen, seconded by Commissioner Cincoski, to recommend approval
24 of the Conditional Use Permit for T-Mobile, 2601 Kenzie Terrace with the following conditions:
25 1) That the proposed tower and antenna structure be similar in design being proposed and any
26 increase in height of antenna would need an amendment to the approved Conditional Use Permit.
27 2) Fencing shall allow 6 feet of clearance to the property line fence.
28 3) Up to 6 trees and 12 shrubs to be added for screening subject to approval of the Kenzington
29 Board.
30 Motion carried unanimously.
31
32 VII.3. SIGN CUP—ISD 282 ELECTRONIC SIGN AT 3303 —33RD AVE NE
33
34 Chair Stromgren opened the public hearing at 7:50 p.m.
35
36 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes presented the staff report on the Conditional Use Permit
37 (CUP)request by ISD 282. Mr. Linn Bjornrud, Wold Architects and Engineers, contacted staff to
38 ask about the process for obtaining a CUP to allow for the placement of an electronic sign on the
39 St. Anthony Middle School and High School (SAMS/SAHS)property. Staff advised Mr.
40 Bjornrud of the process and the City's sign ordinance at 155.29 DISTRICT SCHEDULES, (D),
41 states that while electronic signs are permitted with an approved CUP in a Recreational/Open
42 Space Zoning District; flashing and animation are not permitted(2)(a); and hours of operation
43 are restricted(2)(b). Mr. Bjornrud appeared before the Planning Commission at a concept review
44 during the April 21, 2009 Planning Commission meeting to present the ISD 282 electronic sign
45 proposal. The ISD 282 initial request included animation as part of the software program for the
46 electronic sign. At the concept review, the Planning Commission advised Mr. Bjomrud that the
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July 21, 2009
Page 6
1 proposed animation was not an allowable feature as per the Sign Ordinance. The animation has
2 since been removed from the School District's proposal and application. As part of the
3 application, Mr. Bjornrud indicated that the proposed electronic sign will replace the two signs
4 that existed previously. One double-sided electronic sign will be used by both schools to
5 communicate events to the community.
6
7 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes reviewed the criterion for consideration of the CUP
8 request. She reported that staff has received no phone calls regarding the proposed electronic
9 sign for this school location. One resident who lives across the street from the Middle
10 School/High School voiced concerns about the possible flashing animation or brightness issues
11 that might be associated with the proposed electronic sign. Staff has also received a call from a
12 resident who voiced objections about the public notification process for the electronic signs for
13 both locations, Wilshire Park Elementary and the Middle School/High School. While he is not
14 neighboring either school,he was concerned that the community would find the information
15 confusing and difficult to find.
16
17 Mr. Linn Bjornrud, Wold Architects and Engineers, addressed the Planning Commission and
18 stated he is present on behalf of the School District. He noted during the previous reviews there
19 was discussion of animation that went further to whether the School District could do what they
20 intended to do without animation. That option was discussed and the School District is pursuing
21 more of a standard electronic message sign for cost effectiveness and ease of gaining a
22 recommendation from the Planning Commission. Mr. Bjornrud answered questions of the
23 Planning Commission regarding the proposed electronic message sign at SAMS/SAHS. The
24 proposed sign essentially matches the setback of the existing signs. Restricted hours for the sign
25 are 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Mr. Bjornrud stated the existing sign actually emits quite a bit of light and
26 he is not aware that it shuts off at any particular time of night. The School District wants to
27 utilize the signs to gain the benefit they need, but is also interested in improving the situation for
28 the nearby residents.
29
30 Ms. Kristen Atchenson on 33rd Avenue addressed the Planning Commission and stated the
31 majority of her questions were answered, as she wanted to know about the size of the sign,
32 illumination, and hours. The current sign is on all night. She inquired about the possibility of
33 adding trees in the front yards of the residents that are directly across the street from the school.
34 Chair Stromgren replied that this would be outside of the Planning Commission's authority.
35
36 Mr. Bjornrud stated the School District has recently hired a licensed landscape contractor and
37 intends to have him provide some landscaping around this sign. This is not included in the permit
38 as it has not been designed yet, but the City could be included in the process.
39
40 Mr. Peter Atchenson addressed the Planning Commission and stated he lives across the street
41 from the school. He is concerned about light pollution. A lot of this has been taken care of by the
42 sign issue,but it looks as though there will be more lights put in for the parking lot. He
43 questioned how the residents will be informed about the sign that will go on the site, as it has not
44 been purchased yet. He stated things are moving ahead rapidly. Chair Stromgren explained that
45 the parking lot lighting is not before the Commission at this time,but there are City ordinances
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July 21, 2009
Page 7
1 regarding light levels. He suggested obtaining further information by contacting the School
2 District or City Hall.
3
4 Mr. Allen Lilienthal, 3312—33rd Avenue, addressed the Planning Commission and inquired
5 about the dimensions of the sign and the length of the electronic messages. Chair Stromgren
6 provided information on the proposed size of the sign and amount of time messages are required
7 to be displayed.
8
9 Commissioner Jensen indicated it would be beneficial for the graphics on the setback to include
10 dimensions from the right-of-way. He noted parking lot lighting should be directed downward
11 and there are likely timers as well. Mr. Bjornrud stated that the project conforms to light
12 pollution requirements.
13
14 Chair Stromgren closed the public hearing at 8:14 p.m.
15
16 Motion by Commissioner Jenson, seconded by Commissioner Chaput, to recommend approval
17 of the Conditional Use Permit for an electronic sign at 3300 33rd Avenue NE.
18
19 A friendly amendment was made by Commissioner Jensen to require confirmation that the
20 underground utilities to the sign are not located in the easement of a different party.
21
22 A friendly amendment was made by Chair Stromgren to require staff to be provided with a
23 planting design.
24
25 Motion carried unanimously.
26
27 Chair Stromgren noted this item will be on the agenda of the July 28, 2009 City Council
28 meeting.
29
30 VIIA. SIGN CUP—ISD 282 ELECTRONIC SIGN AT 3600 HIGHCREST ROAD
31
32 Chair Stromgren opened the public hearing at 8:16 p.m.
33
34 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes presented the staff report on the conditional use permit
35 request by ISD 282. Linn Bjornrud, Wold Architects and Engineers, contacted staff to ask about
36 the process for obtaining a Conditional Use Permit(CUP) to allow for the placement of an
37 electronic sign on the Wilshire Park Elementary School property. Staff advised Mr. Bjornrud of
38 the process and the City's sign ordinance at 155.29 DISTRICT SCHEDULES, (D), states that
39 while electronic signs are permitted with an approved CUP in a Recreational/Open Space Zoning
40 District; flashing and animation are not permitted(2)(a); and hours of operation are restricted
41 (2)(b). Mr. Bjornrud appeared before the Planning Commission at a concept review during the
42 April 21, 2009 Planning Commission meeting to present the ISD 282's electronic sign proposal
43 for Wilshire Park Elementary. The ISD 282 initial request included animation as part of the
44 software program for the electronic sign. At the concept review, the Planning Commission
45 advised Mr. Bjornrud that the proposed animation was not an allowable feature as per the Sign
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July 21, 2009
Page 8
1 Ordinance. The animation has since been removed from the School District's proposal and
2 application.
3
4 Assistant City Manager Moore-Sykes reviewed the criterion for consideration of the CUP
5 request.
6
7 Mr. Linn Bjornrud, Wold Architects and Engineers, addressed the Planning Commission and
8 stated he is present on behalf of the School District. One thing to note is that it has been
9 confirmed that the proposed location for the sign is not within the County right-of-way. He stated
10 the School District attempted to get a definite number on the setback from the County, and has
11 been unable to confirm a number at this time. He requested that as part of the recommendation
12 the Planning Commission allow for the sign to be replaced in the current location if the School
13 District is unable to receive confirmation on the setback requirement. Mr. Bjornrud indicated that
14 the sign will be the same as the sign to be located on the SAMS/SAHS site. The technology to be
15 used will be LED and will match the City's; the hours of operation will match the City's sign as
16 well.
17
18 Mr. Bjornrud answered questions of the Commission regarding the proposed electronic message
19 sign at Wilshire Park Elementary School. It will be ensured that the setback requirement is
20 maintained with the sign placement. He presented a photo depicting the view of the proposed
21 placement of the sign from the street.
22
23 Commissioner Jensen indicated he would like confirmation that the underground utilities to the
24 sign are not located in the easement of a different party.
25
26 Chair Stromgren closed the public hearing at 8:29 p.m.
27
28 Mr. Bjornrud answered questions on the sign copy area proposed for the sign. The sign copy for
29 this site has been reduced from that of the SAMS/SAHS site due to this sign being for one site,
30 rather than two schools. The sign copy is proposed to be 68 square feet
31
32 Commissioner Jensen inquired how sign copy is measured to meet permit requirements. He
33 noted there may be relevance in determining how much copy area is taken up by the St. Anthony
34 ISD logo and making necessary changes to meet the requirements, as what has been proposed is
35 slightly bigger than what is allowable.
36
37 Motion by Commissioner Jensen, seconded by Commissioner Heinis, to recommend approval of
38 the Conditional Use Permit for an electronic sign at 3600 Highcrest Road, subject to verification
39 of the signage area prior to the City Council meeting, and confirmation of the underground utility
40 easements and setback area that the sign is relocated to.
41
42 A friendly amendment was made by Chair Stromgren to require that the applicant obtain
43 confirmation with Hennepin and/or Anoka Counties on the semaphore issue, to be reviewed by
44 the Public Works Director.
45
46 Motion carried unanimously.
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July 21, 2009
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1
2 Chair Stromgren noted this item will be on the agenda of the July 28, 2009 City Council
3 meeting.
4
5 VIII. CONCEPT REVIEWS
6
7 None.
8
9 IX. OTHER BUSINESS.
10
11 None.
12
13 X. REPORTS FROM STAFF
14
15 None.
16
17 XI. COMMUNITY FORUM.
18
19 None.
20
21 XII. INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.
22
23 None.
24
25 XIII. ADJOURNMENT.
26
27 Motion by Commissioner Chaput, second by Commissioner Jenson, to adjourn the meeting at
28 8:38 p.m.
29
30 Motion carried unanimously.
31
32 Respectfully submitted,
33 Carol Hamer
34 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
STAFF REPORT
To: Chair Stromgren and Planning Commission Members
From: Kim Moore-Sykes, Assistant City Manager
Date: August 18,2009
Subject: Review Fence Heights
Property Address: N/A
Zoning District: Residential
60-Day Expires: N/A
Requested Action: Discussion only.
Background: Generally,most communities limit fence height to six feet in side and rear yards. The stated
purpose for regulation is"to promote a pleasant physical environment and to protect the public and private
property within the City by regulating the location,height, type of construction,and maintenance of all
fences."
Because the City of St. Anthony has granted two variances associated with fence height, the City Council is
requesting that the Planning Commission review the fence height ordinance to insure that what is in the
City Code is adequate or if there is a need to re-evaluate. Attached are the requirements for residential
fences from several cities that are either in the Metro or are of similar size to St. Anthony. It appears that
most communities continue to regulate residential fence heights at four feet in the front yard to the side
yard and six feet from the side yard to the back property line in the rear yard.
The two variances granted for fence height were unique in nature and more for the mitigation of noise and
light rather than an increased need for security or privacy. The City of Prior Lake allows the installation of
an 8-foot fence,with 90% opacity, for properties abutting a state highway or county road and requires a
building permit. Staff found only the City of Mankato allowed the construction of eight foot fences in the
residential zoning district.
Attachments:
• Fence Information-Spring Lake Park
• Fence Information-St. Cloud
• Fence Requirements -St. Paul
• Fence Regulations-Shoreview
• Fence Requirements - Luverne
• General Information for Construction of Fences/Walls -Plymouth
• Residential Fences -Hopkins
• Residential Fences - Prior Lake
• Fences - Mound
• Fence Regulations- Mankato
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City of Spring Lake Park,
Minnesota
1301 818t Avenue N.E,Spring Lake Park, MN 55432-2188
(763)784-6491 * Fax:(763)792-7257
Fence Information
The purpose of regulating fences is to promote a LOCATIONS OF FENCES
pleasant physical environment and to protect the Fences,when constructed to enclose any lot or tract
public and private property within the City by
regulating the location, height,type of construction, of land, shall be located in such away that the entire
fence shall be on the property of the owner. Posts
and maintenance of all fences.
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR PROPERTY STAKES and framework shall be placed within the property
LOCATED AND EXPOSED BEFORE A PERMIT lines of the owner and the actual finished fencing
WILL BE ISSUED material, such as wire, lumber, pickets, etc., shall be
placed on outside of the fence which faces the street
The owner/contractor is responsible for locating the or adjacent property.
property corner markers prior to applying for a fence
permit. If the iron lot corner pins cannot be found,the No fences shall be allowed or constructed on street
applicant is to contact a Land Surveyor to re- right-of-ways. Fences may, by permit, be placed on
establish the lot comers before commencing with the public utility easements so long as the structures do
fence building. A metal detector can be useful to find not interfere in any way with existing underground or
the iron comer marker pins. Refer to your property over ground utilities. Further, the City of any utility
survey for lot dimensions. When a building inspector company having authority to use such easements
comes out to inspect your fence, they will need to shall not be liable for repair or replacement of such
see your exposed property stakes. fences in the event they are moved, damaged or
destroyed by virtue of the lawful use of said
DEFINITIONS easement.
Fence:A fence is defined as any partition, structure, CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
wall, or gate erected as a divider marker, barrier or
enclosure and located along the boundary, or within Every fence shall be constructed in a workmanlike
the required yard. For the purpose of this Section, a manner and of substantial material reasonably suited
fence shall not include naturally growing shrubs, to the purpose for which the fence is to be used.
trees or other foliage. Every fence shall be maintained in a condition of
reasonable repair and shall not be allowed to
PERMIT REQUIRED become and remain in a condition,which would
No fence shall be erected or substantially altered constitute a public nuisance, or a dangerous
without obtaining a zoning permit from the Building condition. If such a fence is allowed to become and
Inspections Department. The fee for a fence permit remain in such condition, a Building Inspector is
is$35.00. authorized to notify the owner or owners of such
fences of the condition and allow owner or owners
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ten (10) days in which to repair or demolish the industrial zones when fronting a public street and
fence. placed no closer than the parking setback. Barbed
wire shall not be permitted adjacent to any residential
Link fences, where permitted, shall be constructed in district.
such a manner that the barbed end is at the bottom
of the fence. FENCING BETWEEN COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL
AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES
No barbed wire or barbed wire fences shall be
allowed on private property in residential zones. No Whenever a Residential zone is a adjacent to or
barbed wire or barbed wire fences shall be allowed across the street from a Commercial/Industrial zone,
on private property in business or industrial zones the commercial or industrial land owner/developer
where the property lines of such property abut lots or must provide a minimum six (6)foot high fence for
parcels adjacent to residential districts. screening. The fence shall not have less than ninety
(90) percent opacity for screening purposes.
All fences shall be constructed in conformity with the
wind, stress,foundation, structural and other SPECIAL PURPOSE FENCES
requirements of the Minnesota State Building Code.
Fences for special purpose and fences differing in
RESIDENTIAL FENCES construction, heights, or location, may be permitted
in any commercial or industrial district in the city, only
In all residential districts, fences shall have the be issuance of a conditional use permit approved by
following setbacks and heights limitations: the City Council after a recommendation by the
-FrontsYard -Mazimum.height-of-four..(4).. Planning Commission, and upon evidence that such
feet_atiova'1g_rqund,level in front of the front
face of the residential structure. special purpose fence is necessary to protect, buffer,
or improve the premises for which such fence is
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above ground level. NON-CONFORMING FENCES
The required front yard of a corner lot shall not All existing fences, at the time of the adoption of this
contain any fence that may cause danger to traffic on Section, which are not in violation of this Section and
a street or public road, by obscuring the view. On are not located within a public right-of-way or
comer lots, no fence higher than 36 inches shall be easement, but which violate other Sections of this
permitted within the 50-foot intersection sight Code, may be continued to be maintained and to
distance triangle. exist but may not be replaced, if destroyed or
removed, to the extent that the violations be
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FENCES continued.
In business and industrial zones, fences may not QUESTIONS?
exceed seven (7) feet in height above the ground
level, and the use of barbed wire is prohibited, If you have questions about the information in this
except that the top one (1) foot of any fence along handout, please contact the Building Official at (763)
side or rear lot lines in these zones may be 792-7212, or e-mail your questions to
constructed or barbed wire. Barbed wire is also bbrainard(bci.spring-lake-park.mn us.
permitted for the top one (1) foot of fences in
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Kim Moore-Sykes
From: Barry Brainard [bbrainard@ci.spring-lake-park.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:46 AM
To: Kim Moore-Sykes
Subject: RE: Fence Height
Hello Kim,
In Spring Lake Park we only allow for six feet maximum height in all
residential zones. In order to exceed the maximum height allowance, a
variance would need to be secured.
Thanks,
Barry Brainard
-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Moore-Sykes [mailto: kim.moore-sykes@ci.saint-anthony.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7 : 44 AM
To: 'bbrainard@ci.spring-lake-park.mn.us'
Subject: Fence Height
Good morning. I am with the City of St. Anthony and we are reviewing our
fence ordinance, which is very similar to that of Spring Lake Park. Our
situation is that we have had two requests for increased fences heights and
in each case, the property owner had to apply for a variance. Each one was
granted because the properties which are neighboring and both are situated
adjacent to Silver Lake Road. The 8 foot fences were requested because of
traffic noise and parking lot lights from a neighboring community' s
commercial strip mall located across Silver Lake Road.
My question is, does Spring Lake Park allow for the installation of higher
fences for these sorts of situations or are property owners required to
apply for a variance to the fence height? Thanks for any information that
you can provide.
Kim Moore-Sykes
Assistant City Manager
City of St. Anthony
612-782-3312
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Are you planning to place a
residential fence on your property T
in the City of St. Cloud?
If so, be sure to check all regulations before you start your project. The St. Cloud Zoning
Ordinance regulates the height and location of residential fences.
Why does St. Cloud have residential fence regulations? - It is in the best interest of all St. Cloud residents to
ensure attractive and safe neighborhoods. Fence regulations help preserve the beauty of St. Cloud's
neighborhoods while protecting the health, safety, and welfare of all residents.
Do I need a building permit to put up a residential fence? - No
How do I locate my property lines? - If you are unsure where your property lines are, you may be able to
locate property irons with the use of a metal detector. The City does not provide surveying services. In most
cases, the curb will not be the front property line because there is additional road right-of-way beyond the
curb.
What are the setbacks and height restrictions for wreside' ritii PWnf ce,? - A fence on an interior lot can be
placed up to the property line, but not on the property line. If the lot is adjacent to an alley, a 2-1/2 foot rear
yard setback is required. Maximum fence height in the front yard is 4 feet. LMaxiimum fenccegheight�iri
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Fence Requirements
• Complete a building application form. • Every fence must be constructed in a
• Enclose 2 copies of a Certificate of Survey substantial professional manner and shall be
CITY OF s H O R E V I E W showing location of fence in relation to the lot constructed of a substantial material
lines reasonably suited to the purpose for which the
4600 Victoria Street North • Covenants of development must be met fence is proposed to be used.
Shoreview, MN SS 126 • Fences must comply with the City's • The framing structure of fences must be
Development Code Requirements. Regulations placed on the owner's side of the fence or
for residential fences are found in Section equally distributed on both sides. Fencing
Tel: 651-490-4690 material shall be dimensional,solid sawn,
Fax: 651-490-4696 Code
requirements:
The following summarizes the
Code requirements: decay resistant lumber. Chain link fencing
• Fence must beset inside the property line. If rt material with corrosion protection shall be
is constructed on the property line,the written permitted. Electric fences and barbed wire fences are not
FENCEconsent of adjoining property owner ms permitted.
required. Property comer irons must be located,
_ • Fences in the front yard or any yard adjacent to •
ReL it 1 At icons h 5 a public road right-of--,way or road easement exposed and verified at final inspection
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can not exceed.4•feet in height,except; State law requires that utilities be located prior
Fences in a rear yard ofa double fronted to any construction Call Gopher State at 454-
.lot,adjacent to an arterial or collector 0002
roadway may be up to 6 feet in height
=:> Oncomerlotswhose side yard abuts an Swimming Pool Fencing
arterial roadway,fences in that side yard
may be up to 6 feet to height provided that Pools shall be enclosed with fencing at least 4 feet
the fence is setback at least 10 feet from to height but not more than 6 feet to height.
the property line abutting the right-of-way Fence gates shall have self-closing,self-latching
of , It or any pedestrian or road easement and and be provided with a locking device.
plantings(shrubs or trees)as approved by Fencing shall be completely installed prior to the
the City are established and maintained filling of the pool
between the fence and the right-of-way
easement. Serving the Community Since
I I I I I • Fences in.the side or rear. and shallmot exceed
.0_e_t�mi height. In no case,shall the combined 1957
height of any fence and berm exceed the
maximum height permitted by more than 1- Tel: 651-490-4690
foot. Fax:651-490-4696
DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY AND INSPECTIONS
Bob Kessler,Director
CITY OF SAINT PAUL 375 Jackson Street,Suite 120 Telephone 651-266-9007
Christopher B.Coleman,Mayor Saint Paul,Minnesota 55101-1806 Facsimile 651-166-9124
Web www stpaul goy/dst
Fence Requirements (Sec. 33.07)
a Permit. No person shall construct, or cause to be constructed, any fence in the City of Saint Paul without first
obtaining a permit from the building official.
1 Fee. $37.00 for the first 200 lineal feet or fraction thereof erected and $13.00 for each additional 100 lineal
feet or fraction thereof.
(2)Site Plan. A site plan must be submitted showing the property lines, location, length, height and type of fence
(wood, chain link, etc.)being installed. A survey may be needed if applicant can not locate property markers.
(b)Height of fences. No-fence-shall�be•erectedsexceeding;six:(6)�feet,, ix @),inches,insheight;above the,sidewalk:or
finished=grade•of-0any1oWn a residencekdistricttorsomanytlot,occupied)fQriresidentiahpurposes:;The applicant shall
ensure that fences and all supporting structures shall be completely within the boundaries of such lot with no portion
encroaching onto adjacent property.All,fenceslerected between,the front,property:line%andthe front setback<line,as
defined,in.section.60.207..of the Saint Paul,Legislative Code,shall be no-more,thanJour_,(4)feet,in,height�One a corner
lot of two intersecting streets in a residential zoning district, no fence, wall or other structure shall be allowed above a
height of two(2)feet from the sidewalk grade in the triangular area of the lot included within ten(10)feet of the corner
along each lot line unless the structure is more than 80% open. Fences for nonresidential uses in residential zoning
districts shall not exceed eight(8)feet in height, except fences around tennis courts, which shall not exceed twelve
(12)feet in height, back stop fences,which shall not exceed twenty(20)feet in height, and golf range fences,which
shall not exceed thirty(30)feet in height. The selvage end of chain link or metal fences shall be smooth; knuckled
ends are permitted, twisted ends are not permitted.
(c)Variances. A variance of the fence height regulations may be granted if, after investigation by the building official, it
is found that site, or terrain, or nuisance animal conditions warrant a waiver of the height restrictions. An application
fee of seventy dollars($70.00)is required for each variance request.
(d)Swimming Pool fences. All yards of one-and two-family structures containing swimming pools shall be enclosed
by an obscuring fence not less than four(4)feet in height.All yards of residential structures of three(3)or more units
and commercial structures containing swimming pools shall be enclosed by an obscuring fence not less than five(5)
feet in height.The gates shall be of a self-closing and self-latching type,with the latch on the inside of the gate, not
readily available for children to open. Gates shall be capable of being securely locked when the pool is not in use.
Commercial and multi-family residential swimming pools require approval from the MN Dept. of Health (651)201-4500
or Steve Klemm(651)201-4503.
(e)Barbed wire fences. No barbed wire fence shall be constructed within the city limits of the City of Saint Paul,
except for police and correction facilities, unless the following conditions are complied with:
(1)No fence which uses barbed wire may be built in, or abut, a residentially zoned district or built on or abut a lot
occupied residentially.
(2) Barbed wire, not exceeding three(3)strands, may be permitted on the top of a fence; providing,that the arms
do not project over public property.The minimum height to the bottom strand of the barbed wire shall not be less
than six(6)feet from finished grade.
(3) In all cases where a barbed wire fence is requested, an application shall be made to the building official.
(4)A certificate of insurance indemnifying the City of Saint Paul shall be submitted with the application subject to
the approval of the city attorney as to form and in an amount as set forth in Minnesota Statutes, Section 466.04.
(f) Electric fences. No above ground electric fence shall be constructed within the city limits of the City of Saint Paul.
(g)Fences in Historic Districts. If a fence is proposed for a designated Historic Site or within a Historic District,
there will be a review by the Heritage Preservation Commission(HPC)staff within the Department of Safety and
Inspection(DSI)to ensure that the fence meets the Guidelines of the District. A site plan will be required(typical of all
fences)and also an elevation drawing which will illustrate all the details of the fence, including height, general
(See reverse for Inspection Procedure)
appearance of the fence materials to be used and whether it will be painted or stained. Call 651-266-9090 if uncertain
whether a property is in a Historic District. To reach an HPC staff person, call 651-266-9078.
Fence Inspection Procedure:
The contractor(permittee) is responsible to properly locate the property lines, locate property pins or
survey property; Also for arranging for the required inspections and assuring that the work is completed in
compliance with applicable codes and ordinances.
The fence installer is responsible for locating the fence entirely within the boundaries of the property being fenced. If
existing property markers cannot be located,the property boundary must be established by measurement from
existing benchmarks or by placement of new property markers through a registered survey.
The inspector for your project is identified on the permit inspection card. If there is any question about the
acceptability of existing property markers or benchmarks,contact the building inspector between 7:30 and 9:00 am
for approval of the markers prior to installing the fence. Contact the building inspector as identified on the fence
permit to arrange for a final inspection after completing the fence.
Revised 01/2009
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New Fence Requirements
All fence installations shall be processed with a fence
Home * permit application. No permit fee or inspection will be
On-Line Utility * required. The application shall contain:
Payment
Site Index * 1. Site plan, including lot dimensions, with structure
Economic * locations (including setbacks).
Development
Maps of Luverne '>k 2. Location of proposed fence with heights.
City Officials * 3. Description of materials used for fence.
City Departments
Citv Staff photos NoJence-shall_exceed six:feet i m hei g ht,fromthe front}of
Administration the,house to,the back�lottlines and,alongYbackrlot=line.,No
Finance 8 Data Processing ;
Building and Zoning
Permit Information g
fence.,shall-exceed,four feet=in,hei ht•from the>front-of-ithe
Permit Aoolications house-to the front lot linep and along.front..lot line. Not
Safetv and Insoection info
Plumbina Code and Info fence shall block the view of traffic. Fences erected on
Zonina
Luverne Zonina Man corner lots must maintain a 25 foot (from corner pin
Building Permit
Application location) and along the street side, a clear view triangle. No
Mechanical Permit
Application fence shall exceed three feet in height in the "clear view
Zonina Permit Aoolication
New construction area". It shall be the responsibility of the property owner of
guidelines a fence to provide access for reading meters by means of
Fee Schedule
Municioal Utilities an unlocked gate or relocation of the meters or reading
Public Works
Leaal Deoartment devices to an accessible location.
Quentin Aanenson Airfield
Blue Mound Llauor Store
Fire Department
City of Luverne Phone The City of Luverne does not dictate which side of the
Directory fence must be "finished". No fences shall be constructed
Boards and * of light-weight materials such as chicken coo
Commissions P wire,
barbed wire, or bamboo. Not withstanding the preceding
Meetings Calendar * sentence, chicken coop wire may be used for vegetable
Agendas and Minutes * gardens located within the perimeter of rear or side yards.
City Services * Products manufactured for other uses such as plywood,
corrugated Seel, or fiberglass panels are prohibited as
Luverne Outlook * allowed fencing materials.
Monthly Newsletter
Pool & Fitness * The property Center P p y owner is responsible for locating property
Events * lines. Property pins may be located at each corner and
should be located before a fence is erected. Property
Lodging * dimensions and street right-of-ways may be obtained from
Tourism * the City Code Official. The owner may also hire a surveyor
to locate the property lines, and this is recommended if the
City Jobs * location is in dispute. The City of Luverne does not survey
Weather properties, or represent a guarantee of lot dimensions or
corner locations. Fences must not encroach on adjacent
Helpful Links * properties. Maintenance of both sides of the fence
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Feedback Form * (painting, mowing, etc.) should be considered when
City code * determining placement. It is the responsibility of the fence
owner to maintain the fence.
The City of Luverne does not settle property line disputes
between neighbors, including, but not limited to disputes
Search over placement of fences, hedges, and trees.
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Full site The City does enforce proper setbacks, as required in
0This Section other sections of this code. Fences may be placed in
easement areas only with approval of the City Utilities
Search Tips Department.
For further Information ...
Building Official Dan Delgehausen can be reached at the Office of Building
Safety/Code Compliance:
(507)449-5031
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City of
Plymouth
GENERAL INFORMATION
Adding Quality to Life FOR
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth,My 55447 THE CONSTRUCTION OF
General Information(763)509-5430 FENCES/WALLS
Inspection Scheduling(763)509-
5449
FAX (763)509-5407
WHEN ARE FENCE/WALL PERMITS REQUIRED?
Agricultural developments and residential, single and two family: Anytime a new fence/wall is constructed, or an
existing fence/wall is altered or moved. Other residential, commercial and industrial: Site Plan Approval through
the Planning Division is required.
FENCE/WALL PERMIT SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS:
1. A completed Fence/Wall Permit Application.
2. A Certificate of Survey of the property or an accurate, scaled drawing of the property indicating the location
of house(s), garage(s),other improvements,and the fence/wall all in relation to the legal property lines.
3. A side view drawing of the proposed fence/wall including construction materials and proposed height of the
fence/wall from ground level.
HOW MUCH ARE FENCE/WALL PERMITS?
There is no charge for permits for fences not exceeding 6 feet in height, or retaining walls not exceeding 4 feet in
height.
FENCE/WALL REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS: (Also see definitions)
1. Fences constructed of materials with an opacity of up to 100%Tandxnotexceeding six(6) feet in-height-may-be,
located-at•or`behiiid'ff&►inifiiifiiim front setback-line;required-for the principal,structure-omthelot. Said fence
may be located within a required front yard area that qualifies as an equivalent rear or side yard as defined by
the Zoning Ordinance.
2. Fences constructed of materials with an opacity of 50% or more and not exceeding thirty-six (36) inches in
height may be located within a required front yard area. Fences constructed of materials with an opacity of
under 50%(e.g. wrought iron,chain link,split rail) and not exceeding forty-eight(48) inches in height may be
located within a required front yard area.
3. On corner lots or lots adjacent to railroad rights-of-way, no fence over thirty-six(36) inches in height shall be
located in a sight visibility triangle(30' along each curb line).
4. Should the rear lot line of a lot in a residential district be common with the side lot line of an abutting lot, that
portion of the rear lot line equal to the required front yard setback of the abutting lot shall be fenced in
accordance with the provisions of#2 above.
5. That side of any fence considered to be its "face" (the finished side having no structural supports) shall face
abutting property or street right-of-way.
6. Fences are not permitted within wetland buffer areas.
7. Retaining walls greater than four (4) feet in height require the issuance of a Building Permit and must be
accompanied by an engineered design.
8. A fence shall be required on the top any retaining wall that exceeds four (4) feet in height. The Zoning
Administrator may grant exceptions to this requirement if the retaining wall does not pose a public safety
concern.
9. Retaining walls shall not be placed within any drainage or ponding easement unless reviewed and approved
by the City Engineer.
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10. No fences or walls shall be placed within a wetland or required wetland buffer, cross over a required rain
garden, or extend below the ordinary high water level of a lake, stream,or water quality/detention pond.
11. Fences shall not be constructed from chicken wire,welded wire, snow fence,branches,or materials originally
intended for other purposes, unless upon the showing of a high degree of architectural quality achieved
through the use of such,prior approval is granted by the Zoning Administrator.
SETBACK LEMTATIONS:
The fence/wall,including post holes,must be located completely within property boundaries.
HOW DO I FIND THE PROPERTY LINES?
Permanent corner iron monuments should be located below the sod level, in the ground of each legally divided
parcel of land in Plymouth. Locating the corner iron monuments is the responsibility of the property owner. The
corner iron monument can be found by using a certified survey and a metal detector,or, contact a Registered Land
Surveyor to locate the monuments.
BEFORE YOU DIG...
CALL "GOPHER ONE CALL" AT 454-0002
They will locate your underground utilities for safer digging!
DEFINITIONS:
Interior Lot: A lot with a single street frontage.
Corner Lot: A lot at the junction of and fronting on two or more streets.
Through Lot: An interior lot which abuts a street on two sides,typically on opposite ends of the lot.
Front Yard: The yard area between the main building and a street right-of-way line and extending from the side
yard lines. (Corner lots have two front yards).
Required Yard: The open space between a lot line and the buildable area within which no structure may be
located except as provided by the Zoning Ordinance.
Equivalent Yard: The yard area between the main building and an abutting right-of-way line of an arterial,major
collector or other public street where access has been prohibited, and extending from the side or rear yard line to
the front line of the main building.
Side Yard: A yard area between the main building and the side lot line and extending from the front yard line to
the rear yard line.
Rear Yard The yard area between the main building the rear lot line and extending from the side yard lines.
Interior Lot Corner Lots
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City of Prior Lake Requirements
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A zoning permit is required prior to the installation of any fence 6 feet or less in
PIc10'r't0.`. - height. A site plan showing the location of the fence in relation to the property
C.011'StruCtl'Oth lines is required with the application. Fences more than 6 feet require a build-
✓ .Chec_"e rded ing permit. The fence must have engineering to design for wind loading.
docurents at$c'Ott
County;(952)'496= Fence location, height, and opacity are regulated by the zoning ordinance,
8143-4o d'eferrhine1f based upon the type of lot.
fences,Ate.prohibit
ed,by restrictive For traditional lots or lots that front only one street:
covenants.
■ FRONT YARD: 4 feet in height, 50% opacity
✓ Cbll-theftbr' ■ SIDE OR REAR YARD: 6 feet in height, 100 % opacity
Lake Pianning,:
Department at.(952.) For through lots or lots that front two streets running parallel:
447.9810 to deter-
mine specific reg ■ Front yard: 4 feet in height, 50 % opacity
lations and to obtain ■ Side yard: 6 feet in height, 100 % opacity
an application for a ■ Rear yard (that is, used as a rear yard): 6 feet in height, 100 % opacity
zoning permit. ■ Yard abutting a state highway or county road: 8 feet, 90 % opacity*
✓ Call Gopher For corner lots or lots that front two streets that intersect:
State One at(612)
454.0062 before - ■ Front yard (or the location of garage): 4 feet,
beginning 50% opacity. r-------
construction ■ Side yard abutting a COLLECTOR street:
:,nary.
6 feet, 100% opacity behind the rear corner of the ; 1�
dwelling or detached accessory structure; in front i. 171
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of rear corner, 6 foot fence must maintain a 10 foot i '� a
setback (see illustration).
■ Fence must be at least 1 foot from a trail. ----� �'
■ Side yard: 6 feet, 100 % opacity ;mss
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Fence height is measured from the ground level to the top of the fence. Posts
may extend no more than 8 inches above the required height limit of a fence.
In the front yard, fences must be decorative fences, such as picket fences, split
rail fences or decorative iron fences. Chain link fences are prohibited in the
front yard.
Fences are prohibited in the 50-foot sight triangle, the public right-of-way,
drainage and utility easements if drainage and/or utilities are impacted.
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Residential Fences Fancy Anderson
Before building a fence in Hopkins,you must have a fence permit. Complete the 952-548-6342
Fence Permit Application and return with$10 permit fee to Hopkins City Hall.
Call before you dig
Requirements
1-800-252-1166
Mon-Fri,7 am-5 pm
The following is a summary of zoning code requirements for residential fences in Hopkins. Before conducting any
For complete information,see Hopkins Chy Code 520.13. excavation for fence posts in
Location your yard,the law requires
f=ence;Height that you call Gopher State
In a residential district,-no.boundary.line fence can-be.more than4-ft,in height except,in One Call to have utility lines
the,following,cases: located in your yard.Calls
f w k must be placed at least two
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A fence•on-a side.property line can be as tall as.6 ft-for-the-distance starting from the rear lot
line and,going,to a pointwhere it,meets the rear,wall,,line of the house on either side of the
fence. If there is more than one rear wall line,this point is determined by the one closest to the
rear property line(See illustration, line B).
If a house on an adjacent lot is located within 50 feet of the fence line and its rear wall line is
closer to the rear property line of the fence,that determines the point from which the fence can
no longer exceed 4 ft in height.See illustration, lines A and B).
Rear property line abutting rear property line
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Fences on side street lot lines can be as tall as 6 ft for the distance starting from the rear lot
line and proceeding along a 40 ft distance to the front lot line. In no case can the fence extend
forward of the front line of the house.(See illustration,line C.)
'Corneniots
Fences on any comer lot erected within 30 feet of the intersecting curb line are subject to
Hopkins Cfty Code 520.11 (Traffic Visibility).
Enclosing swimming pools
Fences enclosing swimming pools must be at least 4 ft in height and not more than 6 ft,
subject to the other provisions listed here.
Construction
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The purpose of City Code Chapter 350:475 is to promote a pleasant physical environment
and to protect the public and private property within the City by regulating the location, height,
type of construction, and maintenance of all fences.
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR PROPERTY STAKES LOCATED AND
EXPOSED BEFORE A PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED
PERMITS REQUIREMENTS
A permit is required anytime a new fence is constructed, or an existing fence is altered or
moved.
DEFINITION OF FENCE
A fence is defined for the purpose of this Ordinance, as any partition, structure, wall or gate
erected as a dividing marker, barrier, or enclosure and located along the boundary or within
the required yard.
REQUIRED INFORMATION WHEN APPLYING FOR A PERMIT
❑ 1. A completed fence permit application and checklist.
❑ 2. Two copies of a Certificate of Survey of the property or an accurate, scaled drawing
of the property indicating the following:
- North arrow
- Lot dimensions
- Location of survey irons
- Location of proposed and any existing fences
- Fence height and type of material used to construct the fence
- For lakeshore lots, a surveyor must locate the Ordinary High Water elevation
❑ 3. Locating the corner iron monuments is the responsibility of the property owner. The
corner iron monument can be found by using a certified survey and a metal detector,
or by contacting a registered land surveyor to re-establish the lot corners.
LOCATION OF FENCES
The fence, including post holes and footings, shall be located in such a way that the entire
fence is completely within the property line.
CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
Every fence is required to be structurally sound and constructed of a material reasonably
suited to the purpose in which the fence is to be used. Every fence shall be maintained in a
condition of reasonable repair and appearance by its owner and shall not be allowed to
become and remain in a condition of disrepair, danger or constitute a nuisance.
No electrical or barbed wire fences are allowed on private property in residential zones.
Barbed wire may only be used in industrial districts as an anti-vaulting measure on top of a
fence and shall not exceed 1 foot in height above the top of the fence.
All link fences shall have a top rail and be constructed in a manner that the barbed ends are
at the bottom of the fence.
The side of the fence considered to be the face (the finished side having no structural
supports) shall face the adjoining property or street right-of-way.
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT FENCES
In all single and two-family residential districts, fences shall have the following setbacks and
height limitations:
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Sidewalk/Boulevard
No more than 4 feet in height
Front Yard
Maximum height of four (4) feet above ground level within the required setback of the
front face of the residential structure (either 20 or 30 feet from street side property
line).
Rear and Side Yards
• Maximum height of six (6) feet above ground level within the required setback of
the rear and side faces of the residential structure.
Corner Lots
The required front yard of a corner lot shall not contain any fence that may cause danger to
traffic on a street or public road, by obscuring the view. On corner lots, no fences, structures,
objects, plantings, etc. shall be permitted within the Sight Distance Triangle.
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SHORELINE DISTRICT LAKESHORE SETBACK FENCES
Fences to be located within the fifty (50) foot lakeshore setback shall not exceed three (3)
feet in height and shall remain a see-through visibility level equal to that of a chain-link type
fence. All fence materials must be treated so as to blend with the natural surroundings of the
setback area.
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FENCES
In business and industrial zones, fences are allowed up to six (6) feet in height above the
ground level with a Conditional Use Permit.
INSPECTIONS REQUIRED
A final inspection is required when the fence is completed. Property markers must be visible
for the inspector. Please call (952) 472-0614 to make an appointment. All inspection
requests require a 24-hour notice.
BEFORE YOU DIG...
CALL "GOPHER ONE CALL" AT (651) 454-0002
They will locate your underground utilities for safer digging!
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v Fences of more than 30 inches in height require a building permit
v The City does not provide surveying services The property owner is responsible for locating
property lines
e Fences may be built up to,but not on,the property line and must be located entirely on the
property of the person or firm constructing it Fences may be constructed within an easement,
though future work within the easement may result in the removal of the fence Fences are not
allowed in some types of restricted easements,such as those dedicated for landscape,berms,
sidewalks,trails or access
e The finished side of the fence shall face neighboring properties or the street.The finished side
is described as the side of the fence without exposed supports or posts
o Fences,walls or hedges shall not encroach on any public right-of-way
Residential and Commercial Regulations
o Approved residential and commercial fencing materials include stone,brick,finished wood
and chain link
o Fences,walls,and shrubbery shall not exceed 30 inches within a corner lot Sight Triangle
-o°Fences shalhnot'exceed 4,feet m.front yards,_8 feet m.side,.yards;and.8_feet m rear yards
Industrial Regulations
o Approved industrial fencing materials include stone,brick,finished wood,chain link,and
barbed wire security fencing when used above a height of six and a half feet
o Fences,walls and shrubbery shall not exceed 30 inches within a corner lot Sight Triangle.
e Security fences shall not exceed 8 feet in front yards.
• All other fences shall not exceed 4 feet in front yards,8 feet in side yards and 8 feet in rear
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STAFF REPORT
Report No.: VIII. 1.
To: Chair Stromgren and Planning Commission Members
From: Kim Moore-Sykes,Assistant City Manager OAU2
Date: August 18, 2009
Subject: Autumn Woods Assisted Living Facility
Prope1y Address and Legal: 2580 Kenzie Terrace
Zoning District: PUD - R-4;PUD Amendment in 2003
Requested Action: Concept Review
Background:
Mr. Greg Bronk and the LaNel Group are proposing to construct 50 urates of assisted living units at 2580
Kenzie Terrace. It is hoped that construction could begin late 2009. Mr. Bronk and Ms. Caitlin Goff have met
several times with City Staff to discuss the project and the implied zoning and land use requirements.
The building is planned to be four stories in height with the end caps being three stories. The general shape of
the building will be L-shaped, with the long portion being parallel to Kenzie Terrace. There is planned to be a
drop-off at the front door, as well as visitor and staff parking. Additional parking is planned as follows: 14
surface spaces will be reserved mainly for visitors and some staff; 38 spaces will be planned for the lower level of
the building. In total, these spaces provide approximately 1 car per unit.
Unit sizes will be about 600 SF for one bedrooms and 750 SF to 800 SF for two bedroom units. Common areas
willinclude a community dinning area with a full-service kitchen. Other services that will be housed in the
building include: mail area, exercise/craft rooms,library, screen porch, beauty parlor, and a chapel. There will
also be office space planned for two Assisted Living nurses, LPNs, and nurse-aids.
The proposed exterior will consist of materials and finishes that will be consistent with the neighborhood and
adjoining multi-family facilities. At this time, no specific design has been determined but LaNel continues to
discuss possible design standards with Staff. An on-site rain garden is being planned as part of the proposed
landscaping,which tries to maximize the green space of the site.
Mr. Bronk and Ms. Goff held a neighborhood meeting on August 6, 2009 at the City Hall. As reported, property
owners adjacent to the proposed project,including those residents of Minneapolis, were noticed of the
neighborhood meeting and were invited to attend. Nine residents attended the meeting. Staff received no calls
from residents before or after the neighborhood meeting regarding this project.
Attachments:
• Written description of the proposed Assisted Living Autumn Woods Project
• Renderings and color drawings of the proposed facility and landscaping
• Meeting Summary of the Neighborhood Meeting held on August 6, 2009
Assisted Living Autumn Woods
Ingress&egress
Site ingress and egress will be at the existing curb cut that allows travel access to Kenzie Terrace going in
both directions.The existing drive entrance will be reconstructed as shown on the sketch to adjust the
grade to meet the new floor elevation at the new building entrance.The natural slope of the land is
downward to the south where the parking lot entrance meets the drive to the lower level parking level.
That entry drive will slope downward as necessary to meet the garage level of the building.
Parking(surface&underground)
An additional 14 exterior parking spaces is provided on the west side of the reconfigured entrance drive.
These spaces will serve the new Assisted Living Building mostly for visitors to the building and some
staff.We plan to provide a minimum of 38 interior parking spaces in the lower level garage of the
building.This will afford the typical one car per unit usually anticipated for this building type.The vehicle
access and parking layout minimizes the amount of new hard surface and maximizes the site green
space to promote biodiversity and reduce the impact of rainwater runoff.
Storm water where it goes
A rain water garden surrounds the north,west and south sides of the building. Most of the water
collected in these rain water gardens is surface and roof run-off. From the rain water garden pond area
on the west side of the building there will be a connection for the treated water to enter the storm
sewer located in Kenzie Terrace.This plan minimizes run-off from hard surface parking areas because
only a small amount of new parking and drive areas are added to the site.The water at the south garage
entrance will be drained into a trench drain at the garage door and from there pumped up to an
elevation that will allow flow in a storm drain connected to the storm sewer in Kenzie Terrace.This line
is illustrated on the sketch plan.
Unit sizes
One bedroom units will be about 600 s.f. and two bedroom units will be 750 to 800 s.f. Individual "Care
Suite" units will be about 365 s.f.
Common area
Common areas will include a community dining area served by a full service kitchen.There will be a two
story entry foyer, parlor, mail area,office areas, public wash rooms,meeting rooms, an exercise/crafts
room, library, screen porch, beauty parlor and an average to large sized chapel. An elevator will
connect all floors of the building. 10'x 16' staff offices are planned for each of 2 Assisted Living Nurses
and one for the Assisted Living Nurse's-Aids.There will be a Care Suite area of the building that will
consist of 5 double"Care Suites"that will serve 10 residents and be equipped with one bath room for
each resident.This "Care Suites"area will also include a 10'x 10'office for the "Care Suites" LP-Nurse,a
locked medications room and rest rooms for the for staff and guests.
Building height(#stories)
The building will be 4 stories.This height will minimize foot print area and reduce the visual impact of
the building by consolidating it into a more rectangular shape rather in a long spread out 3 story
building. We are planning to omit units at the ends of the top floor to step the building and reduce the
building's massing and complement the existing Autumn Woods Apartment buildings that also have
stepped end caps.This new smaller footprint building will be more ecological because it will minimize
the amount of rain water run-off and will leave more green space on the site to reduce rain water run-
off issues and promote biodiversity.The residents of this building will be frail and the shorter corridor
lengths to the central elevator will be welcome because many of them are struggling with mobility
issues.The building will consist of 50 to 58 units.
Landscaping
The proposed landscape plan will be consistent with Lang-Nelson's normally high and award winning
standards.The plan will feature base planting around the building perimeter and boulevard trees along
Kenzie Terrace.There will be a lower screen planting supported by a dense application of over story
trees along the south property line next to the southern residential neighbors.The rain water garden
amenity areas will feature tall grasses that can live in wet or dry conditions as dictated by the season
and weather.We also plan on natural wild flowers and grasses to be planted in these decorative areas.
These areas will match landscape vegetation (water tolerance)to the drainage design component of the
garden. For rain gardens at the locations shown on the design sketches a drain tile would be the
recommended.The the would allow the gardens to drain themselves of excess water. Drain tile keeps the
gardens from getting waterlogged and provides the drainage design components of detaining the storm
water and providing water quality treatment.The landscape design will be coordinated with the vision of
the Owner and considerations of site conditions and selection of water tolerant plantings.
Construction materials
The proposed exterior materials and finishes will be consistent with the residential nature of the
neighborhood and the adjoining apartments.There is no specific design for the exterior yet.The building
will have a sloped shingled roof.The walls will be finished with "Hardie" panel trim and siding details
including significant areas of brick finish to complement the adjacent structures and styles.The masonry
base of the building will be finished with an integral color cast decorative split stone CMU product.
JAY P. NELSON
A R C H I T E C T
AIA, LEED AP,NCARB,
CID
August 10, 2009
MEMO TO: Q
Frank Lang, Lang-Nelson and Associates, Inc.
Gene Nelson,Lang-Nelson and Associates, Inc. 612 — 812 — 4 6 2 8
Greg Bronk, LaNel Financial Group 7601 WAYZATA BOULEVARD
Caitlin Goff, LaNel Financial Group SUITE 2 s 0
ST LOUIS PARK,MN. 5 5 4 2 6
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Re:Autumn Woods Assisted Living,Saint Anthony, MN.
COMMISSION NUMBER 09:11
Thursday evening August 6, 2009 at 6:00 PM at the Saint Anthony Village City Offices Lang-Nelson
held the neighborhood meeting for the above referenced project. A small group of 9 people
attended.
Greg Bronk welcomed all those attending and introduced himself, Caitlin Goff and myself. Caitlin
circulated a sign-up sheet.
Greg Bronk introduced himself as president of Lane[Financial and said that Lanel Financial was
affiliated with Lang Nelson in the development of this project. He said that Lang-Nelson owned
approximately 1000 apartment units and another 500 assisted living units. Lang-Nelson is looking
forward to serving the growing number of Senior Citizens in Saint Anthony Village. He explained
that the property was acquired from the Saint Anthony Village that had previously purchased
several residential properties fronting on Kenzie Terrace as an urban renewal initiative. He said that
the original plan was to build approximately 38 luxury apartment units and that during the time
after their acquisition of the property in 2004. The present plan is for approximately 50 units of
assisted living units. Lang-Nelson would like to start construction by the end of this year. We
provided two presentation boards showing site, area and vicinity plans, area massing images,
building image and a budding elevation study. Greg introduced me to outline the project layout.
I said that the images before the group this evening was purely schematic and could be change
during the ongoing design process. This information did generally speak to the proposed character
and image of the buildings I went over the schematic site plan and explained that the building
would be L shaped with one leg of the L parallel to Kenzie Terrace. I explained that the building
would be 4 stories tall with the ends stepped down to 3 stories.The existing drive would be rebuilt
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to provide a drop-off near the front door and parking for visitors and staff.The compact 4 story
design will preserve the green areas of the site by providing a compact footprint that will shorten
residents walking distance to the centrally located elevator.There will be onsite rainwater retention
and rain gardens. Fifteen exterior parking spaces will spaces for staff and visitors.The rest of the
parking for the project will be inside the building to limit the hard surface areas and maximize green
space areas.The building will be fully fire sprinklered.Typical amenities may include community
dining with a full service kitchen, screen porch,parlor,beauty parlor, library,exercise room, chapel,
activity room. On site staff will provide assisted living services. A major goal will be to maintain the
heavy treeline screening along the south boarder of the site.
One attendee said that the drainage issue off the south end of the existing west parking area should
be resolved because the rainwater spills onto Lowry Avenue.
One lady,Barbara Sullivan who is a descendent of'Kenzie', said that she was an environmental
activist and that she would monitor the public information regarding this project. She is very
concerned about soil testing and if our rain water gardens will cause the homes on Lowry to have
wet basements
One question was about evacuation of the residents if the elevator was disabled in a fire. I explained
that the code required an area of refuge in the stair enclosures.
It was suggested that fencing along the south property line of the site would keep visitors from
straying onto adjacent private properties. Perhaps that fence could be a vision barrier, although it
was recognized that much of the new building would be above any fence height. Glenn Gavic's
home is one of the 5 directly behind the site on Lowry. He was mainly concerned about tine fence
but did mention that he and 2 others want to sell their property.
Out door patio space was not shown on the plans. Everyone thought that an exterior patio would be
a good idea.
Concern was expressed about traffic issues. I explained that there would be no new curb cuts. Greg
Bronk said that the expectation is that this project will not generate a significant amount of new
traffic because many of the residents will not be drivers.The majority of new traffic would be by
staff, service vehicles, and visitors
When asked about ground water conditions we could only say that there has not been any soils
testing yet. Greg Bronk said that the underground parking in the existing Autumn Woods
Apartments was working out without difficulty.
A question was asked about environmental testing. I explained that the Phase 1 Environmental Test
was not done yet but that I expected that it will be part of the process ahead for this project.
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to provide a drop-off near the front door and parking for visitors and staff.The compact 4 story
design will preserve the green areas of the site by providing a compact footprint that will shorten
residents walking distance to the centrally located elevator.There will be onsite rainwater retention
and rain gardens. Fifteen exterior parking spaces will spaces for staff and visitors.The rest of the
parking for the project will be inside the building to limit the hard surface areas and maximize green
space areas.The building will be fully fire sprinklered.Typical amenities may include community
dining with a full service kitchen, screen porch, parlor,beauty parlor, library,exercise room, chapel,
activity room. On site staff will provide assisted living services.A major goal will be to maintain the
heavy treeline screening along the south boarder of the site.
One attendee said that the drainage issue off the south end of the existing west parking area should
be resolved because the rainwater spills onto Lowry Avenue.
One lady,Barbara Sullivan who is a descendent of'Kenzie', said that she was an environmental
activist and that she would monitor the public information regarding this project. She is very
concerned about soil testing and if our rain water gardens will cause the homes on Lowry to have
wet basements
One question was about evacuation of the residents if the elevator was disabled in a fire. I explained
that the code required an area of refuge in the stain enclosures.
It was suggested that fencing along the south property line of the site would keep visitors from
straying onto adjacent private properties. Perhaps that fence could be a vision barrier, although it
was recognized that much of the new building would be above any fence height. Glenn Gavic's
home is one of the 5 directly behind the site on Lowry.He was mainly concerned about the fence
but did mention that he and 2 others want to sell their property.
Out door patio space was not shown on the plans. Everyone thought that an exterior patio would be
a good idea.
Concern was expressed about traffic issues. I explained that there would be no new curb cuts. Greg
Bronk said that the expectation is that this project will not generate a significant amount of new
traffic because many of the residents will not be drivers.The majority of new traffic would be by
staff, service vehicles, and visitors.
When asked about ground water conditions we could only say that there has not been any soils
testing yet. Greg Bronk said that the underground parking in the existing Autumn Woods
Apartments was working out without difficulty
A question was asked about environmental testing I explained that the Phase 1 Environmental Test
was not done yet but that I expected that it will be part of the process ahead for this project.
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When questioned about the market for assisted living units in this area, Greg said that the market
studies indicated that the area could support more units than planned for this site.The proposed
number of units in this building was determined by the capacity of the site not the market.
When asked about project financing Greg said that it was a firm policy that Lang-Nelson would not
move forward with a project without committed financing.
Caitlin handed out 81/2" x 11"prints of the presentation boards.
This is my understanding of the issues discussed and decisions made. Please contact me with any
comments or questions.
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