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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPK PACKET 01082001CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PARKS COMMISSION AGENDA January 8, 2001 7:00 PM Conference Room I. CALL TO ORDER. II. ROLL CALL. III. APPROVE DECEMBER 11, 2000 PARKS COMMISSION NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES. APPROVE DECEMBER 11, 2000 PARKS COMMISSION MINUTES. IV. DISCUSS PAVILION AND WARMING HOUSE DESIGNS WITH JOAN DRUGER FROM SADNESS CONSTRUCTION. V. REPORTS. A. Community Services. B. School Board. C. Sports Boosters. VI. OTHER BUSINESS. VII. ADJOURNMENT. I CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 PARKS COMMISSION NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES 3 December 11, 2000 4 6:30 p.m. 5 I. CALL TO ORDER. 6 Chair Jindra called the meeting to order at 6:40 p.m. and welcomed everyone in attendance. 7 II. ROLL CALL. 8 Present: Chair Carol Jindra, Commissioners Dan Ganley, Julie Gebhardt, 9 Colleen Hallada, Jan Jenson, Doug Koehntop and George Wagner 10 Absent: None. 1 t Also Present: Public Works Director Jay Hartman, Representative from Commu- 12 nity Services Diane Skrivseth; Representative from Sports 13 Boosters George Zurbey. 14 III. NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING REGARDING CENTRAL PARK. 15 Bob Kost reviewed the layout of Central Park with the Park Commissioners and neighborhood 16 members present. He indicated the north portion of the park was up for discussion as to the 17 berming and landscaping between the park and residential areas. Mr. Kost noted the shelter on 18 the north end of the park may need renovation to allow it to be used as a meeting facility and/or 19 warming house. 20 Mr. Kost reviewed the Central Park connection to the Maplewood extension. He noted additional 21 landscaping and plantings would be needed in this area to connect the two areas. Mr. Kost asked 22 for comments from the neighbors. 23 Residents expressed concerns as follows: 24 • asked if there would be parking on both sides of the street near the Maplewood extension. She 25 noted it was extremely dangerous for children crossing the street and running to ball games. She 26 added that she felt the shelter was extremely far from the hockey rink to be used as a warming 27 house for children. She added if it were moved closer, the original shelter site could be used for 28 parking. 29 • with a two story home over looking the park, a resident asked that the sledding hill be preserved 30 for the children as it gets numerous visitors and use. He noted he sees very few children using 31 the free skating rink and asked if others felt the same. Several neighbors indicated they do see 32 the skating rink used a great deal. He continued by stating he doesn't like the look of the 33 numerous chain link fences surrounding the ballfields. Parks Commission Neighborhood Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 2 I Zurbey noted additional plantings could be added in the park to soften the look of fences and 2 fields throughout the park. He indicated vines would be planted on the chain link fences in the 3 spring. 4 • concern where the majority of parking spaces were located in the park. He noted the Maplewood 5 extension draws numerous parked cars and was surprised someone has not been hurt to date. He 6 asked that parking be diverted from this location to Silver Lake Road. 7 • noted that moving the shelter would provide for additional parking spaces. 8 Jindra noted the Park Commission should consider closing off parking on both sides of the street 9 near the Maplewood Extension. She indicated it would be safer to only have parking on the west 10 side of the street. 11 • asked for the location of all park restrooms. Mr. Kost reviewed the locations of the three 12 washrooms within the park. 13 Jindra asked if the school could be asked to put a seasonal restroom within the parking lot of the 14 school. Mr. Kost indicated this could be addressed with the school district, but indicated there 15 was not a representative present at this time. 16 • because the skateboarding park is noisy, asked if any landscaping would be placed in this area of 17 the park. Mr. Kost indicated landscaping and a mound would be placed in this area to reduce the 18 sound and distraction of the skateboarders. 19 Jindra noted a neighbor has indicated an interest in planting trees surrounding the north and east 20 sides of the park. She asked if any neighbors present concurred with this suggestion. The 21 residents present agreed with the need for trees around the north and east lines of the park. 22 • asked if the football field would be revised. Jindra indicated the school district was not 23 interested in allowing the Park Commission to alter the football field at this time. 24 • asked if the entrance from the Maplewood Extension could be removed and reduced to eight feet 25 of concrete. Mr. Kost indicated there was concern for emergency vehicles entering this site. Mr. 26 Hartman stated there was not a need for emergency vehicles at this entrance. 27 • asked if lighting would be placed on the entrances within the park. Mr. Kost stated this has been 28 discussed, but that the Commission has found it would be beneficial to only have the main 29 entrance lit. 30 • commented that he would like to see the warming house have windows on all sides for safety. 31 Mr. Kost concurred with this suggestion. Parks Commission Neighborhood Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 3 I • asked if the drainage configuration of the park would be altered in any way. He stated the area 2 has been dug extremely steep and doesn't allow for maintenance of the area. Mr. Kost stated 3 additional excavation has not been completed. He indicated additional shrubbery could be added 4 in this area to remove the wild undergrowth. 5 • residents abutting the northern park property line asked that the area be mowed on a more regular 6 basis to minimize the wild undergrowth. 7 Jindra noted this issue would be addressed with the City and the School District to keep these s areas better maintained. 9 • asked if the parking lot would be altered. Mr. Kost noted the parking lot would be slightly 10 altered to allow for placement of the soccer field. He indicated the spaces lost could be made up I 1 by moving the shelter building. 12 • asked if the northern portion of the park would be maintained and mowed or if it could be turned 13 into a prairie. Mr. Kost indicated this could be addressed with the Commission and School 14 District before a decision was made. 15 • asked how long it would be before the soccer fields would be completed. Zurbey indicated it 16 would be approximately one to two years before the fields would be ready for use. He indicated 17 the sports boosters would be responsible for finding replacement fields during this time. I8 • asked if the park would be seeded or sodded. Mr. Kost indicated several areas would be sodded 19 for erosion control, but indicated the majority of the park would be seeded. 20 IV. OTHER BUSINESS. 21 None. 22 V. ADJOURNMENT. 23 Motion by Koehntop, second by Hallada, to adjourn the meeting to the regular Park Commission 24 meeting at 7:22 p.m. 25 Respectfully submitted, 26 Heidi Guenther 27 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PARKS COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES December 11, 2000 7:00 p.m. 5 I. CALL TO ORDER. 6 Chair Jindra called the meeting to order at 7:22 p.m. and welcomed everyone in attendance. 7 II. ROLL CALL. 8 Present: Chair Carol Jindra, Commissioners Dan Ganley, Julie Gebhardt, 9 Colleen Hallada, Jan Jenson, Doug Koehntop and George Wagner None. 1 I Also Present: Public Works Director Jay Hartman, Representative from Community 12 Services Diane Skrivseth; Representative from Sports Boosters 13 George Zurbey. 14 III. APPROVE NOVEMBER 13, 2000 PARKS COMMISSION MINUTES. 15 Motion by Gebhardt, second by Koehntop, to approve the November 13, 2000 Parks Commission _6 Meeting Minutes as submitted. 17 Motion carried unanimously. 18 IV. DISCUSS CENTRAL PARK CONCESSION STAND AND PAVILION DESIGN. 19 Jindra reported that BRW would not be used to design the park concessions or pavilion. She 20 asked for comments from the Commissioners based upon the neighborhood comments. 21 Ganley noted he would be interested in placing vines along the football field to soften the look of 22 the fences for the adjacent neighborhood. 23 Zurbey indicated he felt the trees planted along the park limits would address this issue and that 24 additional vines were not budgeted at this time. 25 Zurbey asked if the aglime was going to continue to wash away from the ball fields after grading 26 was completed. Mr. Hubmer noted this is always a concern with heavy storms because the land 27 does have a slight change in grade. He stated most storms will not affect the fields, but that the 28 larger storms could create a wash away of the aglime because of the large amounts of water run 29 off. 30 Mr. Hartman indicated BRW presented a less than acceptable park shelter to the City at the last 1 meeting. He explained John Druger and Glen Sadness, from Sadness Construction were before 32 the Commission to gain information on sketches for a revised and improved pavilion. Mr. Parks Commission Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 2 Hartman noted without focusing on the funding issue, he hopes to increase the creativity of the Commission for the pavilion concepts and components. 3 Jindra indicated she would be in favor of a covered area within with park near the 4 concession/pavilion structure for shelter from the sun and picnicking area. 5 John Druger, Sadness Construction, addressed the Commission with several drawings he 6 designed for the Commission. He indicated he would needed additional information from the 7 Commission before a completed sketch could be before the Commission. 8 Skrivseth indicated during the summer, community services has a children's program within the 9 shelter for six weeks to house a kids club. She stated the revamped shelter would need to still 10 house this event. 11 Jindra reviewed a picture of a pavilion in the City of New Brighton with the Commissioners. 12 She noted New Brighton had just completed five shelters throughout their parks with warming 13 houses and activity rooms with exterior patios. Jindra asked that the Commission members visit 14 this site to gain ideas for the intent of the building. 15 Zurbey indicated the New Brighton building was impressive and had senior activities available in 16 the meeting room. He indicated he would be in favor of offering these same services for St. 17 Anthony seniors. The Commission concurred. 18 Jensen asked if there was a constraint on renovating the current building. Jindra indicated the 19 Commission currently has $100,000 at this time. 20 Mr. Hartman cautioned the Commission about focusing on the price tag at this time because the 21 Commission should be addressing the components needed at this time and not the financial 22 issues. He asked that the Commission prioritize the items needed at the concession stand and 23 shelter/warming house. 24 Mr. Hartman stated the concession stand would essentially consist of restrooms and a concession 25 stand. The Commission concurred. Hartman asked if the Commission would like to have a 26 subcommittee to address the components of the shelter structure. 27 Jindra indicated the subcommittee would not be necessary and suggested several components for 28 the shelter as being: four restrooms — two male/two female, a storage room, a warming 29 house/meeting area and an outdoor a picnic area. 30 Gebhardt indicated she felt the grading in this area could be a concern for handicap accessibility 31 and the potential use by seniors within the shelter. Mr. Hartman indicated this would have to be 32 addressed. Parks Commission Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 3 1 Mr. Hartman asked if the Commission was in favor of renovating the existing shelter or 2 recreating a shelter. Jindra noted the Commission is looking to renovate the existing shelter and 3 add a picnic pavilion near the shelter as a free standing structure. She asked that the Commission 4 be provided with a separate and/or attached picnic area. 5 Mr. Hartman asked if the picnic area was a needed component. Jindra indicated she felt this was 6 a necessary component and indicated she felt the free standing pavilion could be attractive for 7 neighboring residents. 8 Mr. Druger asked if a rubber flooring would be acceptable within the warming house. Mr. 9 Hartman indicated this would be a major expense up front, and noted other warming houses 10 place particle board over the flooring to prevent damage to the surface underneath. 11 Jindra indicated she would like to see a gas fireplace within the meeting room area to keep the 12 room inviting. 13 Jensen asked if the pavilion and concession stand would contain the same design elements. He 14 indicated he would like to see continuity between the structures. Mr. Druger stated he would 15 suggest the same color schemes and design elements. 16 Jindra asked that Mr. Druger have design sketches for the shelter and concession stand before the 17 Commission at their January 8" meeting. Mr. Druger indicated he would provide this 18 information back to the Commission as requested. He requested the names and numbers of those 19 who would be interested in making preliminary comments before the January 811 meeting for 20 suggestions. 21 V. DISCUS SILVER POINT PARK SHELTER AND FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR 22 SHELTER REPLACEMENT. 23 Mr. Hartman indicated the funding issues were addressed at the last meeting by Todd Hubmer 24 and indicated he was present to address these issues with the Commission in more detail. 25 Todd Hubmer indicated funds were available were from the Minnesota Department of Natural 26 Resources at this time. He suggested the Commissioners not get set on the amount of funding at 27 this time but instead chose a style of pavilion and seek out the funding after a design has been 28 created. Mr. Hubmer noted the DNR could be addressed again for additional funding to meet the 29 needs of a functional structure. 30 Jindra asked if this structure could be completed by next spring. Mr. Hubmer noted this would 31 be more realistically be completed in late summer. '2 Zurbey asked where the shelter would be located within this park. Mr. Hubmer noted the :s3 placement at this time would be adjacent to the playground structures. He indicated the area has 34 been marked off. Parks Commission Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 4 1 Zurbey asked if the south property line of the park would work for the structure. Mr. Hubmer 2 noted the south portion of the park would work as well. 3 Skrivseth indicated she would not be in favor of the pavilion on the south portion of the park 4 because it would eliminate the ability to walk the perimeter of the park. Mr. Hubmer indicated 5 he felt the shelter would not interfere with the walking paths. 6 Jindra asked if parking could be placed on the service road. Mr. Hubmer noted Hennepin County 7 does not allow for parking on this roadway. Mr. Hartman added that residents in the area are 8 threatening to place a gate on the service road to keep people from parking on the service road. 9 Zurbey noted parking was an issue near all parks. He indicated all residents that live near parks 10 need to accept this. Zurbey indicated it is for the safety of children using the park that lots are 11 being created. 12 Jindra indicated the City has been interested in purchasing a home near this park to acquire land 13 for additional parking. 14 Mr. Hubmer noted the Commission needs to address the location of the pavilion to address 15 concept plans and components desired by the Commission. He asked if the Commission was in 16 favor of placing the structure in the middle of the park or near the south property line of the park. 17 Jindra asked for the wishes of the Commission as to the location of the pavilion within this park. 18 Zurbey indicated concern for children climbing on the roof of this structure if located near the 19 south property line, as the structure would be built into the hill. Mr. Hubmer indicated the 20 roofline could be fenced off to remove this liability and danger. 21 Motion by Jensen, second by Hallada, to recommend the placement of the pavilion on the south 22 side of the park near the property line. 23 Motion carried unanimously. 24 Jindra noted she had concern with the drainage at Silver Point Park. Mr. Hubmer noted this issue will be 25 addressed this spring because much of the run off from 29" street has been running into the park. 26 VI. REPORTS 27 A. Community Services. 28 Skrivseth noted she wants to make sure Community Services are kept in mind when the shelter 29 and picnic areas are developed for Central Park to allow for all programs to continue as 30 scheduled. Parks Commission Meeting Minutes December 11, 2000 Page 5 1 B. School Board. 2 Dunn was not present to submit a report. 3 C. Snorts Boosters. 4 Zurbey indicated all boosters members are looking into additional field locations for the 5 upcoming season. 6 Jindra indicated the North East Lions may be willing to donate funds to Central Park if a 7 presentation was made to them regarding the use and number of residents at Central Park. She 8 reviewed the percentages of children using this park from the north east area with the 9 Commission and indicated a presentation would be made. 10 VII. OTHER BUSINESS. 11 None 12 VIII. ADJOURNMENT. 13 Motion by Koehntop, second by Hallada, to adjourn the meeting at 8:52 p.m. 14 Respectfully submitted, 15 Heidi Guenther 16 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. �ain thry *Ila e MEMORANDUM DATE: December 21, 2000 TO: Parks Commissioners FROM: Jay Hartman, Public Works Director ITEM: ADDITIONAL ITEM TO JANUARY 8 AGENDA In addition to the items listed for the January 8 Parks Commission agenda, appointment of a Chair and Vice Chair will need to be made at that meeting, in accordance with the Parks Commission By -Laws.