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Connie Kroeplin
The Next Regularly Scheduled Parks Commission
Meeting Will Be August 12, 2002
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PARKS COMMISSION AGENDA
August 12, 2002
7:00 P.M.
Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER.
II. ROLL CALL.
III. APPROVAL JUNE 10, 2002 MEETING MINUTES.
IV. AUGIE WONG / BRW AND BRAD FORBROOK / SEH WILL BE
PRSENT TO DISCUSS THE PAVILION AND PARK
IMPROVEMENTS.
V. REPORTS.
A. Community Services
B. School Board
C. Sports Booster
VI. OTHER BUSINESS.
VII. ADJOURNMENT.
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PARKS COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
June 1.0, 2002,
- 7:30 p.m.
Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER.
Chair Jindra called the meeting to order at 7:55 p.m. and welcomed everyone in attendance.
II. ROLL CALL.
Present: Chair Jindra, Vice Chair Doug Koehntop, Commissioners Daniel
Ganley, Julie Gebhardt, Colleen Hallada, Jan Jenson, and George
Wagner.
Absent: Commissioner Dan Ganley.
Also Present: Public Works Director Jay Hartman; Representative from
Community Services Diane Skrivseth; Representative from the
School Board Denise Dunn; Independent Contractor Maury
Anderson; Augie Wong, URS.
III. APPROVAL of MAY 13, 2002 PARKS COMMISSION MINUTES.
Chair Jindra requested the following changes to the minutes of May 13, 2002:
Page 2, line 23: base -grading to be changed to "re -seeding and irrigation."
Page 3, line 17: delete last sentence.
Motion by Vice Chair Koehntop, second by Commissioner Gebhardt, to approve the May 13,
2002 Parks Commission Meeting Minutes, as amended above.
Motion carried unanimously.
IV. AUGIE WONG WILL BE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING
THE CONSTRUCTION OF CENTRAL PARK.
Prior to this evening's meeting, the Parks Commission toured Silver Point Park Central Park to
observe the on-going project. Todd Hubmer, WSB, was present at Silver Point Park, and
provided the Commission with a report on seeding. He stated the T -ball field was currently
usable, and would be re -seeded when the other field was available in the fall.
Wong indicated that one of the two fields would have the irrigation installed soon, which will
allow a lot more activity.
Commissioner Hallada asked if the debris on the field would be would be removed. Wong
indicated that when the weather improves, the debris would be removed from the field.
Wong highlighted a few of the changes that were made this evening while touring the parks:
• The trail along Maple Drive being moved about 30 feet, at that emergency overflow
would go out to Maple Drive.
The trail next to the Skateboard Park would be moved to the north end of the park to
avoid utility lines.
Wong stated that they would likely be installing wooden steps to lead up to the skating rink.
Commissioner Jenson questioned the durability of wood. Wong and Anderson agreed that
wooden steps last quite a long time.
It was determined that over -coating of the high school service road should be considered due to
its condition
Chair Jindra asked if the project was on schedule for both time and money. Wong indicated that
the seeding was what they were waiting on until August, but that the project is moving along
very well.
Denise Dunn relayed a few comments from Gary Palm, the Athletic Director. She stated that he
was concerned about the standing water at the north end of the visitor's bleachers. Wong stated
that the problem should be relieved of some of the drainage when the project is completed.
Wong added that there would always be some sort of drainage at the location when there is a
heavy rain.
Dunn (via Palm) asked about the status of the lighting for the varsity football field. Wong stated
that they first needed a boring test location of about 35 feet deep. He continued that they would
be looking at a cost of about $42,830 for just the bases of the lights. He stated that another
$63,601 was needed for the lights, and an additional $20,000 for electrical, for a grand total of
about $125,000.
Vice Chair Koehntop stated that he felt that adding the lights was an overuse of the facility,
unfair to the neighboring residents, and not necessary.
Commissioner Jenson stated that he did not feel that it made much sense to debate the issue
today, as they simply do not have the money.
Chair Jindra asked when it was stated that the, Parks Commission denied the Sports Boosters. I1
was determined that the Commission gave the impression to the Sports Boosters that it was late
in the project to be discussing the possibility of up -grading the lighting for the varsity football
field.
Anderson suggested that the Commission formally adopt a motion to take back to the Sports
Boosters.
Commissioner Gebhardt added that the Commission has been discussing the park project for
years, and the issue of the lighting has been discussed and re -discussed. Vice Chair Koehntop
agreed that they needed to lay the issue to rest.
t Anderson suggested that, by setting a real deadline for the Sports Boosters, they would have
something for which to refer back, in the future.
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June 10, 2002
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Chair Jindra stated that the community is aware of the attempts -that have been made by to raise
the monies for the lighting of the varsity football field, and agreed with Anderson that they
should make a motion that includes a deadline.
Hartman asked to whom the motion would be distributed. It was determined that Gary Palm and
Sports Boosters representative George Zurbey would receive a letter that included the motion.
Vice Chair Koehntop added that they should not instill false hopes by giving the Sports Boosters
a deadline.
Hartman stated that he would determine the important points of the letter as well as the details of
the motion.
Motion by Vice Chair Koehntop, second by Wagner, that Wong outlines the costs associated
with installing the footings, and that Hartman outlines the cost, timing and the impact of the
proposed lights by the Sports Boosters to the surrounding residents.
Motion carried unanimously.
Chair Jindra referred to the portable satellite toilets at Wilshire Park Elementary. The school has
said that they would not pay for them because they have no need for them during the summer
months.
The Commission asked who is responsible to pay for the satellite toilets. Hartman stated that the
city should not pay for them because they are on school property.
Chair Jindra asked about the additional hard costs for Central Park. Wong stated that the
$30,000 for the additional lighting foundation was for going deeper, and the $10,000 for the
practice soccer field was for grading, which they will probably opt not to do.
Wong stated that the initial cost to light the hockey rink was $56,000. He stated that there will
be a significant savings by using the existing lights to light the hockey rink, and that the balance
will be re -allocated to fund other aspects of the park project.
Chair Jindra stated that the restrooms at Emerald Park were not open. She asked if they would
be open on game -days. Hartman stated that they had trouble keeping up with the vandalism, and
the associated costs, so they closed them permanently.
Hartman and Chair Jindra discussed different options including distributing keys to the coaches
and Sports Boosters. Hartman stated that they would likely continue to keep the restrooms open
and deal with the vandalism that will accompany their being open all the time.
Chair Andra referred to the players benches at Wilshire Park that needed to be moved back
several feet, and anchored with cement blocks. Hartman stated that the school was responsible
to cover the cost of the installation and maintenance.
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June 10, 2002
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V. REPORTS.
A. Community Services.
Diane Skrivseth had nothing new to report regarding the parks.
B. School Board.
Denise Dunn had nothing new to report. She stated that they baseball team was playing
on Thursday night in the state tournament for the first time.
C. Sports Boosters.
George Zurbey was not present.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS.
Hartman stated that, at this point in the project, they have a $23,000 deficiency in their
inspection budget. He added that they might have money left over in the contingency fund to
help with the deficiency, but that the inspection would still happen.
Vice Chair Koehntop distributed a petition regarding the "noise pollution emanating from the
skateboard park." He stated that he and his neighbors thought long and hard before producing
this petition. He added that the petitioners are not against youth activities, but the "cacophony of
penetrating booming noises severely disrupts the peace and quiet of our backyards and even.
vibrates into our homes."
Vice Chair Koehmop added that another park is being infringed upon because of the activities at
skateboard park
He continued that the low -frequency noise issue is very great for residents living in the vicinity
of the skateboard park. He added that he would greatly appreciate attention to the problem
sooner rather then later, so that it will not become a significant expense.
The petition included a copy of Noise Control, Section 1145.01- Noises Prohibited, subdivision
1:
"No person shall make or cause to be made any distinctly and loudly audible noise that
unreasonably annoys, disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, safety, or
welfare of any person or precludes their enjoyment of property or affects their property's value.
This general prohibition is not limited by the specific restrictions of the following subdivisions."
Chair Jindra asked about the costs of installing sound barriers. Hartman indicated that he is
currently looking into it.
Vice Chair Koehntop requested about $30,000 to address the problem. Anderson stated that he
has heard MnDOT engineers state that sound barriers can only reduce the noise so far.
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Chair Jindra asked if they wanted to form a sub -committee to address the problem.
Commissioner Jenson, Vice Chair Koehntop, and Hartman indicated that. they would form the
sub -committee to work together on the issue.
Vice Chair Koehntop stated that it was important to look into the effectiveness of sound barriers.
He added his request that the Commission anticipates the funding that such barriers would
require.
Vice Chair Koehntop asked about the room that was necessary for a sound barrier, and if it was
there. Hartman stated that they would determine how much room was needed, and determine if
it they had it.
Chair Jindra suggested that the Commission tour the other parks, as well. The Commission
agreed, but nothing was specifically determined as to when they would tour the other parks.
VII. ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Commissioner Jenson, second by Commissioner Wagner, to adjourn the meeting at
9:02 p.m.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Courtney Seesz
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