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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PARKS COMMISSION AGENDA
August 13, 2001
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Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER.
II. ROLL CALL.
III. APPROVAL OF JULY 9, 2001 PARKS COMMISSION MINUTES.
IV. BOB KOST (URS) TO PRESENT FINAL BID OF CENTRAL PARK
AND DISCUSS OPTIONS.
V. MOLLY OLIVIER (SEH) TO PRESENT BUILDING DESIGNS.
VI. REPORTS:
A. Community Services
B. School Board
C. Sports Boosters
VII. OTHER BUSINESS.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT.
TUESDAY, AUGUST 14, 2001 AT 5:15 P.M.
THE PARKS COMMISSION WILL HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SANDWICHES WILL BE SERVED.
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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PARKS COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
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10 I. CALL TO ORDER.
11 Chair Jindra called the meeting to order at 7:28 p.m. following a tour of Silver Point Park and
12 welcomed everyone in Attendance.
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14 II. ROLL CALL.
15 Present: Chair Jindra, Vice Chair Doug Koehntop, Commissioners Colleen
16 Hallada, Jan Jenson, and George Wagner.
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18 Absent: Commissioners Daniel Ganley and Julie Gebhardt.
Also Present: City Councilmember Randy Hodson; Public Works Director Jay
21 Hartman; Representative from Community Services Diane
22 Skrivseth; Representative from Sports Boosters George Zurbey;
23 Representative from the School Board Denise Dunn (arrived at
24 8:18 p.m.); Independent Contractor Maury Anderson; and Molly
25 Olivier, SEH.
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27 Chair Jindra reviewed the tour findings and work that will be occurring at Silver Point Park to provide
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29 and the Skate Park. She commented on the resident comments received regarding the condition of the
30 parks and need to enforce the requirement for protective gear and no smoking at the Skate Park.
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32 III. APPROVAL JUNE 11, 2001 PARKS COMMISSION MINUTES.
33 Motion by Commissioner Hallada, second by Vice Chair Koehntop, to approve the June 11,
34 2001 Parks Commission Meeting Minutes.
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36 Motion carried unanimously.
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38 IV. PRESENT FINAL DESIGN OF CENTRAL PARK BUILDING STRUCTURE - MOLLY
39 OLIVIER WILL BE PRESENT.
40 Chair Jindra welcomed Ms. Olivier, who came forward to present the final design for the Central
/'' Park building structure with the Commission.
43 Molly Olivier, SEH, stated they hope this will be the last park building redesign before the Parks
44 Commission. She reviewed the meeting which occurred on June 19, 2001 and conclusion that
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1 the warming house/meeting room should handle groups of 20 people and the restroom count
2 should stay the same (3 units per restroom). The storage and mechanical spaces were cut back
3 while still accommodating the needs of the pool. She noted the revisions still maintained a
4 fireplace, the kitchenette features, large windows, wood trim, and charcoal grill in the picnic
5 pavilion. Ms. Olivier then presented two plan alternates (Scheme A and Scheme B) and
6 explained the differences in each.
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Ms. Skrivseth asked about the capacity of the meeting rooms. Ms. Olivier noted there is one
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meeting room and the other space is the warming house.
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Ms. Olivier noted the east and west elevations of Scheme B presents a more symmetrical roof
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than Scheme A. She advised that the windows have been reduced in size, but are still the same
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length and contain casement -style windows. In addition, the building is air conditioned. She
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noted the "fluff' has been removed from the restrooms and mechanical rooms.
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Mr. Anderson asked if the fireplace is to be included in Scheme A. Ms. Olivier stated it should
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be included. She noted the difference between the two schemes is about $6,000.
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Commissioners Zurbey stated his support for Scheme B which provides a better design, use of
space, and outside appearance.
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Mr. Anderson stated he finds these revisions to have removed the extravagance without
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compromising use or appearance of the building.
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Ms. Olivier advised of the interior construction details, truss design, exterior treatments of the
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upper roof area, and building materials. She noted that a scissor truss design could be used to
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save more money.
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Mr. Anderson asked about the cost between the different truss designs and noted that for
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continuity, it may be desirable to have the same interior, roof design, and ceiling of the picnic
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pavilion. Discussion occurred regarding how the roof will appear with scissor trusses.
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Ms. Olivier answered questions of the Commission regarding partition type and costs.
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Commissioner Jenson asked if the warming house can be open year-round. Mr. Anderson stated
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it depends on how the space is intended to be used. He noted that the room may be used by the
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boy scouts for ten of the twelve months.
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Consensus was reached to use a scissor truss design to maintain continuity. Ms. Olivier stated
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she will get more information on how the mechanical partition wall track can be constructed.
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Discussion occurred regarding who would be responsible to open/close the mechanical partition.
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Mr. Anderson stated discussion will be needed between the City and Community Services on
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building management. He encouraged the City and Community Services to raise the rental rates
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high enough to be able to afford a part-time attendant who can clean the facility after each use.
Councilmember Hodson agreed with the comment about the design but, in view of the cost issue,
had thought the door would be of a simple design. Ms. Olivier suggested several design changes
and types of doors that could be considered.
Consensus was reached for Scheme B with a scissor truss design.
Ms. Olivier stated a nice design can be created with the truss to assure it is aesthetically pleasing.
She noted that Scheme A is 1,689 square feet and estimated to cost $286,534
(materials only) with a probable cost of $418,092. Scheme B is 1,712 square feet and
estimated to cost $291,122 (materials only) with a probable cost of $424,786. It was
noted the probable cost includes equipment, OHP, bond, liability, and a 15%
contingency.
Mr. Zurbey asked about costs to date on this project. Councilmember Hodson stated he does not
know that amount. Mr. Zurbey asked if the Council has directed staff to seek grant funds.
Mr. Hartman advised that the Council directed the Parks Commission to revise the plan to stay
within a budget of $2.3 million.
Ms. Olivier reviewed options to return to the Council for more money, reduce the floor plan by
one bay in the warming house and one bay in the picnic pavilion, draft a referendum for Central
Park and Water Tower Park alone or draft jointly with the public works building and fire station,
or place the project on hold for one or two years. Ms. Olivier cautioned that the costs will only
increase so delaying the project is not a good option to consider.
Commissioner Jenson stated he would not support returning to the Council for more money,
noting the Council has already indicated the level of affordability.
Mr. Zurbey asked if the money already spent on this project is included in that budget. Mr.
Hartman estimated that $85,000 has been spent so far.
Chair Jindra suggested that bids be received and then discussed with the Council at the upcoming
joint meeting. Ms. Olivier stated if the bids are high, it could be rebid in January when bids may
be more competitive.
Mr. Zurbey asked how close the estimates are. Ms. Olivier stated she believes they are very
close since the contractor used has been within 0% to 10% on other estimates.
Ms. Olivier stated another option would be to eliminate the tongue and groove ceiling and use
plywood.
Mr. Zurbey stated he supports the suggestion by Chair Jindra to get bids and if they are high,
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discuss it again with the Council.
In response to Commissioner Jenson, Ms. Olivier reviewed design elements of an earlier
building plan that was presented to the Parks Commission and met the budget.
Mr. Zurbey noted one source of funding is interest on the Water Treatment Fund, which is $5
million, or $125,000 of additional interest since this project was delayed for six months. Mr.
Hartman noted that in addition, $1 million was to be taken from that Fund to be put towards this
project.
Mr. Zurbey stated these questions cannot be answered until the bids are received. Mr. Hartman
stated there needs to be a point where it is not worth building and rehabbing the building is an
option to consider.
Councilmember Hodson stated this is not an issue where the Council does not want to do it but,
rather, how it can be funded and what the City can afford.
Ms. Dunn arrived at 8:18 p.m.
Commissioner Jenson stated his support to get bids so the Commission can know if there is an
issue about the cost.
Chair Jindra stated if people were educated about the type of building being discussed, she thinks
they would perceive what the Commission envisions. She asked if tours of the New Brighton
facility should be offered. Ms. Olivier stated a forum could be held where a presentation is made
and photographs presented of how the building will appear in Central Park.
Councilmember Hodson stated he believes this process is beyond that point, unless a referendum
is needed. If that is the case, this project would be two to three years out in the future.
Chair Jindra stated she believes the City should reapply for the $100,000 grant that was lost last
year since it was not a soccer field. She stated she thinks the City would have a good chance of
getting that grant.
Councilmember Hodson suggested the information on fundraising options be brought back to
staff.
Mr. Zurbey stated he believes the City leadership needs to be more involved in this project and
take some ownership in it.
Chair Jindra stated there may be a need for a joint meeting and stated her opinion that the City
Hall project should be delayed rather than this park project.
Councilmember Hodson stated the Commission should make the Council aware if they are
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interested in funding a grant writer who can identify an appropriate grant for this park project.
He stated he thinks this is a good time to bid a project for construction next year.
Motion by Vice Chair Koehntop, second by Commissioner Hallada, to open bids on August 7th,
review bids by the Commission on August 13th, and respectfully request the Council schedule a
tentative joint meeting with the Parks Commission on August 14th at 5:00 p.m. (prior to Council
study session) if the bids come in high.
Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion occurred regarding soft costs incurred to date including environmental work, donor
recognition options, fund raising, etc.
Mr. Anderson raised the option of constructing this project in two phases. He cautioned against
removing square footage which he believed would ruin the functionality and appearance of the
building.
Chair Jindra asked staff to invite Bob Kost, BRW, to attend the August 13th Parks Commission
meeting to review the bids.
V. REPORTS.
A. Community Services.
Diane Skrivseth had nothing to report.
B. School Board.
Denise Dunn reported that the new superintendent started last week.
C. Sports Boosters.
George Zurbey stated he had nothing new to report.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS.
Chair Jindra stated she received a card inviting Park Commissioners to participate in the August
4th VillageFest parade.
VII. ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Commissioner Jenson, second by Vice Chair Koehntop, to adjourn the meeting at
8:53 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Carla Wirth
Motion carried unanimouslv.
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