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P.C. Meeting, May 27, 1998 - Page 4 City. He stated there is a lake north of the proposed 200' shooting range which would provide no buffer to stop the noise. He feels to extend their Sunday hours would be unfair. Dave Holm, 6460 125th St., stated the black powder shooting literally rattles his windows, and feels they should be happy with what they have. Members are also allowed to bring up to three or four guests, which could end up to be a large number. Tom Anderson, Upper Heather, knew the Club was there when he moved in, and feels the Club is very professional, but would not like to see them expand. Dean Nephew, 12200 Upper Heather, does not feel "machine guns" should be permitted A resident compared it to the airport, and said the airport had spent 400 million to insulate houses in their area, and feels B.E.S.A should try to do something to abate it as it is incumbent by those creating the , noise. He felt muzzle loaders are very loud, and they should try to cut their current noise before creating more. Shane Krey, 6640 125th St., feels the noise is unbearable when there is a south wind, and feels the club has been a good neighbor, but wanted to reiterate what the other residents have said regarding the noise. Ed Fashingbauer, 12564 Goodview Ave., feels you cannot grandfather in a nuisance, and referred to the City Code. He also read part of an article written by Gene Schutte, President of B.E.S.A., where he has stated the Club would stand to make a lot of money if they were to sell. Mr. Fashingbauer felt this article showed the club's acknowledgment of their possible demise. Dan Johnson, 12170 Upper Heather, bought the house without knowing about the Club's existence, and he feels his spouse is traumatized by the noise. He said he came for peace and quiet, and feels there is a better place for the gun club. A resident on Upper Heather said there is no way to keep the noise out of his house. The shots are so loud his family is unable to nap during the day, should they wish to do so. Jean Nelson, 12350 Upper Heather Ave., said the noise scares her young children, and feels it is more of a residential area. She feels the B.E.S.A. property would make a great park. Ann Fashingbauer, 12564 Goodview, read the City Code on Public Nuisances and asked Tom Drewry for a list of the 50 Hugo members. Mr. Drewry stated he was not the president and was unable to do so. Ms. Fashingbauer feels the residents have been very tolerant and the Club should not ask for more. Steve Butchie, 6262 117th St., knew the club was there before he moved in and wants the gun club to stay and abide by the rules. Mr. Butchie felt they should shut down on Sundays in good faith. A resident at 12315 Heather Ave. N. asked who opens the gates. Mr. Drewry stated that all members have keys, and complaints of shooting at the club after hours are unfounded. Many residents shoot in their backyards. Schumann asked what a DMC shoot was? Jim Riley, Club member, stated it was the Director of Civilian Marksmanship Shoot, which has now been changed to Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP). During these events, there are ten people shooting ten rounds in 60 seconds. A resident at 12225 Upper Heather has been tolerant of the club since they were there first, but he does not want the problem to get worse. He feels the neighborly thing to do would be to make it a priority to mitigate the noise. Mike O'Rielly, 6520 117th St. Ct. N., knew the range was there when he moved in two weeks ago. He would like the City to do a noise compliance study to determine what is acceptable and what is not.