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Minutes for the Planning Commission September 23, 1998 - Page 2 <br />Rubenzer asked how many driveways would be on Green Avenue and was told by Gertz there were eleven <br />driveways and one road. <br />Peltier asked how many cul-de-sacs there would be and how long the longest road would be. Gertz said <br />there would be two cul-de-sacs, and the longest road is 550 feet. <br />Schumann stated he spoke to the Rice Creek Watershed District and was told they were holding the <br />permit because of unresolved issues related to water levels and ponding. Gertz said he would be meeting <br />them tomorrow to discuss those issues. <br />Rubenzer asked if the Fire Chief had been consulted on the water -flow issue. The City Administrator <br />stated he had, and was told they requested they not go below 1000 gallons per minute at 20 PSI. <br />The issue of rural road versus urban was discussed. Gertz stated their intention to make it more rural, <br />with ditches and culverts, and this would be done at the developer's expense. Gertz offered to put in an <br />urban road, with culverts and curbing, but said they would only pay for 1/2 of the expense, leaving the <br />remainder to be paid by the residents on Greene Avenue, which he felt would be benefiting by the road. <br />Gertz felt the rural road would be a more suitable transition between the new development and present <br />housing in the area. <br />Bruce Bernin, 6540 Greene Avenue N., felt the City showed a lack of land ethics, and to allow the <br />development would be to allow the destruction of hundreds of red pines and a 70 -year old habitat. He felt <br />the precious resources of the area should be preserved, and the proposed development could be more <br />agreeable and consenting to these issues. <br />Joe SanCartier, 15125 Greene Avenue, presented the original plan, which showed only six yards facing <br />Greene Avenue and now there were eleven. Gertz responded saying when he redid their plan, they took <br />into account the residents' wish to have front yards facing Greene Avenue instead of the proposed <br />backyards. <br />SanCartier expressed concerns over the narrow roads and traffic from the boat launch, which he feels will <br />create parking problems along Greene Avenue. He felt the City has adopted ordinances which they do not <br />use, and read part of Ordinance 290-13 regarding the protection of natural features. <br />Gertz stated they would not be clear cutting trees, and the only trees they would remove would be for the <br />roadway and ponding. <br />There was much discussion regarding what type of road Greene Avenue should be, and who would be <br />responsible to pay for it. <br />Wally Stoltzman, 8139 157th St. N., felt the Planning Commission should reevaluate the issues regarding <br />Greene Avenue and plan for the future. He felt many future problems could be avoided if the correct <br />decisions are made now, and he sited other subdivisions he felt were having problems now due to poor <br />decision making in the past. <br />Schumann stated that many past developers did not have to comply with the ridged guidelines and <br />ordinances that are now in effect within the City. <br />Gary Weber, 7222 Oneka Lake Boulevard, asked if this was considered cluster housing and was told it <br />was not. He also felt the backyards in the proposed development would be swamps, and he pointed out the <br />water in the ditches near the now -developing Oneka Lake View, saying a child could drown in those <br />ditches. <br />Ron Gray, 6275 Oneka Lake Boulevard, stated the Fire Chief had met with the engineers and determined <br />were they would have the recommended water pressure for firefighting, and the line would fall somewhere <br />