HomeMy WebLinkAbout1999.03.24 PC MinutesMINUTES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF 3-24-99
The meeting was called to order by Planning Commission Chairperson Puleo at 7:06 PM.
PRESENT: Peltier, Peterson, Schumann, Puleo
City Administrator, Robert Museus
Deputy Clerk, Michele Lindau
ABSENT: Kellison, Kleissler, Malaski
Oath of Office
Newly appointed Planning Commission Member, Marie (Bunny) Peterson, took the Oath of Office.
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Schumann made motion, Peltier seconded, to approve the Planning Commission minutes for the meeting of
February 24, 1999, as submitted.
AYES: Peltier, Schumann, Puleo
ABSTAIN: Peterson
Motion carried.
Special Use Permit (Mark & Sally Cain) Public Hearin
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing to consider an application from Mark & Sally Cain, 4777
320th St., Stacy, MN, for a special use permit to construct an apartment as part of their dwelling being constructed
at 13133 Hadley Circle N. The Cains requested to build a guest suite, including a separate entrance, full bath and
kitchen, as part of the home they are building on Lot 5, Block 1, White Oak Heights subdivision. The property is
located in the City's agricultural zoning district where two family residences may be allowed by special use permit.
Mr. Cain, who was present, stated the guest suite would be for his aging father, and he had no intention of
acquiring a renter.
Puleo opened the meeting to the public.
Cliff Axelson stated there were already six other homes in the area, and the apartment could be considered the
seventh, as he felt it would eventually be rented in this manner. Also of concern was the impact on the common
septic system used by the White Oak Heights residents.
Bob Bilotta, who resides south of the Cain property, felt a multi -dwelling in this area would be inappropriate and,
in the future, would eventually be used to generate income.
Craig Smith, 13113 Hadley Circle, stated the common septic system is not near the Axelson property and felt this
should not be a factor. Smith felt it was the Cain's right to provide a place in his home for his father.
Peltier closed the public hearing.
Peliter made motion, Puleo seconded, to recommend approval of the special use permit for Mark and Sally Cain, to
allow for an apartment to be part of their dwelling, under the conditions of the draft special use permit, adding that
the apartment could only be occupied by a family member.
All AYES. Motion carried.
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Whispering Pines Subdivision (Jesperson) Public Hearinn
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing to consider the request of Morris G. Jesperson, 651 LaBore
Rd., Little Canada, to subdivide by Planned Unit Development 11.14 acres into 32 single level townhomes to be
known as Whispering Pines Subdivision. The property is generally located on the northeast corner of 125th Street
and Highway 61.
Charlie Melcher, Ulteig Engineering, presented a revision of a previous plan considered by the Planning
Commission, showing a decreased density from 44 units to 32 units, which would be approximately three units per
acre. Melcher explained the road through the development would be a 32' wide face-to-face bituminous road,
which would extend from 125th Street north and loop to Highway 61. This would be a temporary exit to Highway
61 and would be closed if, and when, access was available from the Beaver Ponds Development. Melcher also
stated they were working with the City Engineer to construct the municipal sewer and water service to the project
in a way to accommodate the Beaver Ponds Subdivision, as well as other potential development in the area.
Melcher also provided a revised landscaping plan showing existing trees and shrubs on the west along Highway 61
and on the east along the Hauble property. Melcher stated the coniferous trees in the area would be relocated
around the perimeter of the development for screening.
Puleo opened the meeting for public comment.
John Peterson, Oakwood Land Development, asked where the road joining the proposed Whispering Pines and
Beaver Ponds would be constructed, as it was shown curving to the north of the Hauble property onto the Beaver
Ponds subdivision. Peterson stated he did not like the curve in the road since he does have townhomes planned for
that area. Staff recommended the road only be constructed to the property line at this time.
Warren Arcand, 5510 130th St., stated he would like to see the Beaver Ponds Subdivision tie into another outlet
since the entrance for the 150 units in Beaver Ponds was directly in front of his home on 130th Street.
George Jungmann, who owns property on the corner or 125th St. and Fiona, said he intends to build a home there,
and is displeased about the heavy traffic load these developments are going to create.
Gerald Hauble, property owner on the east, questioned the capability of the sewer system and requested the
engineers design it to accommodate property on the south end. Hauble also asked who would be responsible to
construct the road should he decide not to develop his property, and was told it would be the responsibility of
benefiting property owners.
Schumann made motion, Puleo seconded, to recommend approval of the subdivision to be known as Whispering
Pines subject to the amended Findings of Fact and Recommendations.
All AYES. Motion carried.
Oneka Lake View South Subdivision (North Suburban Development) Public Hearin
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing to consider the request of North Suburban Development,
Inc., 1333 Osborne Rd., Spring Lake Park, to subdivide by Planned Unit Development approximately six acres of
property along the south side of Oneka Lake Boulevard into six townhome sites. The property, currently zoned
SFU is located within the lakeshore district of Egg Lake, and previously received preliminary plat approval as part
of the Oneka Lake View Subdivision.
Ken Gust was present to answer questions from the Planning Commission and public
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Ron Gray, 6275 Oneka Lake Boulevard, expressed concern regarding the screening of the proposed development,
which is located directly to the east of his home. He felt they were crowding too many units on that property, and
was also concerned about the possibility of being assessed for improvements along his property.
There were no other comments from the public, and Puleo closed the public hearing.
Mr. Gust stated they were considering making cuts in Oneka Lake Boulevard to bring the utilities from the north
side of the road to each of the units on the south. City Administrator stated this may not be acceptable since there
would be considerable damage to the road, and it would likely need to be rebuilt.
Schumann asked if there would be adequate water pressure for fighting fires, and was told there would be
according to the City Engineer.
Puleo made motion, Schumann seconded, to recommend approval of the subdivision to be known as Oneka Lake
View South subject to the amended Findings of Fact and Recommendations.
AYES: Peterson, Schumann, Puleo
NAY: Peltier
Motion Carried
Special Use Permit Brian & Mar_vJo Wurzer) Public Hearin
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing to consider the request of Brian & MaryJo Wurzer, 8126
165th St. N., for a special use permit to construct an 80' windmill for use as electrical power generation on their
property at the above address. The property lies within the City's agricultural zoning district.
Mr. Wurzer expressed his desire to use natural resources to power his home, and stated the windmill would be
located in the center of his property.
Mary Kress, 16790 Ingersoll Ave., voiced concerns regarding safety issues such as the windmill becoming an
attractive nuisance for the neighborhood children, high voltage, and falling ice from blades. Kress also
felt it would not be aesthetically pleasing, and was told by an appraiser it would devalue her property by
approximately $8,000. Another issue was the detrimental effect the intermittent flicker (reflection from the blades)
could have on horses.
A resident on 165th St. N., whose land adjoins the Wurzer's, felt the property was too narrow to accommodate the
windmill, and the ordinance regarding towers does not allow a building within 300 feet of the tower, which would
prevent him from ever building on a portion of his property.
A property owner to the west stated he had visited a windmill manufacture company and a 93' tall windmill could
be heard 500' away with only a 11 mph wind. The proposed windmill would be 80' tall plus the blade. He felt it
would make noise and it was unnecessary to have it that big.
Puleo asked if there were any state or federal regulations regarding windmills and what the setback requirements
were. Administrator stated there were no regulations he was aware of, and the setbacks were the height of the
tower from the property line and twice that from a residential dwelling.
Puleo also asked Wurzer what type of power would be generated. Wuzer said it could produce 30,000 watts per
year, and his electric bill showed he used 26,000 watt last year. Excess power would be purchased by Anoka
Electric.
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Most Planning Commission members felt the neighbors' concerns were legitimate, and since the tower did not
meet the fall -down specification, it should not be allowed.
Puleo made motion, Schumann seconded, to recommend denial of the special use permit to Brian and MaryJo
Wurzer to construct a windmill on their property.
AYES: Peterson, Schumann, Puleo
NAYS: Peltier
Motion carried.
Schumann make motion, Peltier seconded, to request the Council revise the tower ordinance to include provisions
for windmills.
All AYES.
Motion carried.
Site Plan Approval (Sotelo Bodv & Paint
Mr. Brian McGoldrick, 14715 Square Lake Trail, Stillwater, and Mr. Bruce A. Sotelo, 1556 5th St., White Bear
Lake, had requested site plan approval to use Mr. McGoldrick's building at 5100 130th St. N. for autobody repair
and painting. This matter had been considered by the Planning Commission at its regular meeting February 24,
1999, at which time application was tabled pending Mr. McGoldrick's explanation of how he will accommodate
two tenants in the building.
Mr. McGoldrick was present at the meeting and stated the Sotelo's business is code compliant and felt the issue of
paving the parking lot should not hamper the issuance of a site plan approval. McGoldrick purchased the property
in 1994 and felt he should not be held liable for the 1990 site plan which was never complied with.
The Administrator stated the property was not in compliance then, and is not in compliance now; therefore, no site
plan approval can be given.
Mr. McGoldrick was told he needed an adequate site plan showing all technical details including parking, grading
and water run-off.
Schumann made motion, Peltier seconded, to table the site plan approval until the next meeting of the Planning
Commission on April 28, 1999.
All AYES.
Motion carried.
Concept Review (Eaaleview Meadows Senior Housing Subdivision
Mr. Paul Keleher and Mr. Scott Montgomery, Northern Lights Development, Inc., 4910 Hwy. 61, White Bear
Lake, presented to the Planning Commission a concept plan for development of approximately 20 acres of property
located along the west side of Fenway Avenue. The City Council approved the rezoning of this property from RRl
to SFU at their meeting on July 6, 1998. The proposed Senior Housing Development would consist of
approximately 20 -four unit buildings to create a total of 80 units.
Harley Johnson, owner of Harley's Sod Farm, 14196 Fenway Ave., voiced his concerns regarding water drainage
and the possibility of the residents complaining about his current farming operations.
The Planning Commission felt water management and high-density issues should be closely examined.
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As no application was submitted; no formal action was taken.
Concept Review (Townhomes of Bald Eagle)
Mr. Mike Black of Royal Oaks Realty, Inc., 4196 Lexington Ave. N., Shoreview, presented a concept plan for
development of approximately 39 acres of property located west of Fenway Boulevard and north of 130th St. The
proposed development would consist of 47 single family detached homes, 61 row type townhomes, and 96 eight-
plex units for a total of 204 units. This would create a density of 5.21 units per acre.
The Planning Commission felt the density was too high and an increase in impervious surface could create
drainage problems.
Planning Commission Member Peterson also requested the developers provide information on the percentage of
school age children anticipated to reside in the proposed development.
As no application was submitted; no formal action was taken.
Concept Review (Wenzel Farms)
Mr. Leonard Pratt, 4225 White Bear Parkway, Suite 100, White Bear Lake, requested the Planning Commission
consider a concept plan for development of approximately 221 acres of property along Elmcrest Avenue, straddling
Farnham Avenue.
John Peterson, Oakwood Land Development, and John Uban, Dahlgren, Shardlow and Uban, Inc., were present to
answer Planning Commission questions.
The Development would consist of approximately 450 multi -family and single-family units, resulting in three units
per acre, as well as approximately 38 acres of commercial development. They also indicated they were working
closely with Lino Lakes to construct utilities in cooperation with Lino Lakes proposed industrial site to be located
to the west of Elmcrest Avenue.
As no application was submitted; no formal action was taken.
Puleo made motion, Schumann seconded, to recess at 11:35 PM until the City Council meeting of March 29, 1999.
All AYES.
Motion carried.
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Michele Lindau, Secretary
Planning Commission