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HUGO PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 24, 2001
7:00 p.m.
Call to Order
Chairperson Schumann called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.
PRESENT: Kleissler, McRoberts, Rooney, Rosenquist, Schumann
ALSO PRESENT: John Rask, Community Development Director
Michele Lindau, Planning Commission Secretary
ABSENT: Malaski, Peltier
Minutes for September 26, 2001
McRoberts made motion, Kleissler seconded, to approve the minutes for September 26, 2001 as
amended.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Thommes & Thomas Land Clearing Conditional Use Use Permit Renewal
The Planning Commission held a public hearing to consider the application of Thommes and Thomas
Land Clearing Partnership, 15457 Jeffrey Avenue North for renewal of their Conditional Use Permit
for the processing and storage of firewood, recycling of tree waste, chipping, and operation of a
mobile air curtain furnace. The conditional use permit was issued for a two-year period.
The Community Development Director said staff had inspected the property and found it to be in
compliance with conditions of their Conditional Use Permit. Staff recommended approval subject to
all but two of the same conditions as the permit they were now operating under. Staff recommended
elimination of the condition that the permit only be valid for 24 months, which requires Thommes &
Thomas to renew the permit every two years, and the condition that the permitted activities on the site
be limited to the Thommes & Thomas firm only.
In review of the matter concerning the termination of the permit, it was in the City Attorney's opinion
that the City cannot set time limits on conditional use permits. Section 462.3595, Subd. 3 of the State
Statutes states that, "A conditional use permit shall remain in effect as long as the conditions agreed
upon are observed, but nothing in this section shall prevent the municipality from enacting or
amending official controls to change the status of conditional uses." Staff also noted that conditional
use permits run with the property, not a particular owner or operator, which would allow anyone to
operate the use under the same terms and conditions of the conditional use permit.
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Schumann opened the public hearing but there were no comments. Schumann closed the public
hearing.
Members of the Planning Commission questioned what the purpose of renewal of a conditional use
permit was if conditions of the permit could not be amended. The Community Development Director
said he would defer their questions to the City Attorney.
Rooney made motion, Rosenquist seconded, to table action on the renewal of the conditional use
permit for Thommes and Thomas until the November meeting of the Planning Commission to allow
staff time to explore the legal issues regarding time limitations on conditional use permits.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
The Planning Commission wanted it noted that the decision to table the renewal of the permit does
not disallow Thommes and Thomas to continue its operation under the existing conditional use permit
until the issue is resolved.
Victor Gardens 2"d Addition Preliminary Plat, Phase 2
The Planning Commission held a public hearing to consider the application of Pratt Homes, 4225
White Bear Parkway, St. Paul; Arnt Construction, 2190 South Phelps Rd. Hugo; Oakwood Land
Development, 1611 Highway 10 N.E.; and Contractors Property Developer's Co., 7100 Northland
Circle, Mpls., MN for preliminary plant approval for Victor Gardens 2nd Addition consisting of 70
townhome units to be located south of County Road 8, east of existing Elmcrest Avenue.
On November 20, 2000, the City Council approved a PUD Concept Plan for Victor Gardens. At
the June 27th, 2001 the Planning Commission recommended approval of Victor Gardens, Phase 1,
which consists of 82 single-family homes on 27 acres. The City Council approved the final plat
on at their meeting on October 1, 2001. The homes are scheduled to be constructed in the spring.
The Community Development Director reviewed the staff report with the Planning Commission
and Schumann opened the public hearing.
In review of the draft resolution, members of the Commission had concerns with the statement
"The intersection with CSAH 8 will not generate enough traffic to warrant a traffic signal with the
second phase." The Community Development Director said a traffic study had been done and it
did not meet warrant analysis.
Rooney said he recalled that when the developers were seeking Planned Unit Development
approval, they said the front entrances would be the focal point with the garages in back. Rooney
said Phase 2 of Victor Gardens did not meet expectations of the theme that was presented when
they were seeking Planned Unit Development approval.
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Kleissler, Planning Commission Liaison for the Parks Commission, stated that the development
team was working closely with the Parks Commission in the placement of parks within the Victor
Gardens development.
The development team consisting of Len Pratt, Pratt Homes; Jason McCarty, Westwood
Professional Services; and Don Patton and Tom Bakritges from DR Horton was present to answer
questions from the Planning Commission.
There were no comments from the general public and Schumann closed the public hearing.
Schumann made motion, Rooney seconded, to recommend preliminary plat approval for Victor
Gardens 2nd Addition with changes to the language regarding the traffic signal to read "The need
for a traffic signal will be reviewed with each subsequent phase, or earlier if there is an increase in
traffic problems or safety concerns at the intersection."
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Fenway Park Concept Plan Review
The Planning Commission considered a concept plan for a Planned Unit Development to be
known as Fenway Park.
The developers Len Pratt and Warren Olson presented their plan and answered questions from
Planning Commission. Fenway Park would consist of 42 townhome units on approximately 16.5
acres, to be located north of 1401h Street, west of Fenway Avenue North. The site consists of
approximately 132,500 square feet of wetland to the west. This wetland would be available for
mitigation and ponding. In anticipation of 1401h Street (CSAR 8) extending to the west, Pratt
stated that the existing home on the property would need to be removed. Should Fenway Park be
constructed, the developers would remove the home and allow room for the road as well as an
area needed for runoff. The developers said they felt this development would be a good
transitional use of land next to the industrial park.
The Planning Commission expressed concern over the length of the cul-de-sacs when it appeared
the road could be connected by removing a building.
McRoberts approved of the developers' attempt to mitigate abrupt transition on 1401h Street North
and felt the winding roads within the development would minimize the impact of the garages in
front of the townhomes.
Rooney asked who would be responsible for the area to the west. The developers stated it would
be maintained by a homeowners association as a ponding and wetland mitigation area. The
Community Development Director said that ponding and the extension of 140th Street could
consume most of that land.
Rooney said he felt the development could be improved if the road looped through the
development and the driveways were constructed in a way that vehicles would not be backing out
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onto the street.
Schumann asked what the timeline was on this development and was told that they plan on
presenting a preliminary plat in February.
Rosenquist said there should be enough right-of-way there for a four -lane road, and they should
consider constructing a berm along it.
Molitor/Tschida Rezoning
On September 26, 2001, the Planning Commission tabled a City -initiated rezoning of property located
west of Fenway, south of 1401" Street, and north of the Townhomes of Bald Eagle (Tschida and
Molitor properties). The Commission generally agreed that the Tschida property should remain
residential, and that it may be appropriate to consider a rezoning of the Molitor property. However,
given the proximity of adjacent residential properties, the Planning Commission found that the City's
current General Industrial District might not be appropriate for the site. Accordingly, the Commission
directed staff to research and recommend other zoning options.
The Community Development Director presented three different zoning options to the Planning
Commission.
One option was a Light Industrial District. This would provide for low impact and warehousing
and light industrial development. Uses would be regulated in height, lot coverage, setbacks,
landscaping, loading, and use type to ensure they would be compatible with residential
development.
Another option was the creation of an Office/Residential Zoning District. This district would
allow less intense office/retail uses as well as residential. The Community Development Director
noted that with this zoning, it would be difficult to prevent the property from being developed
entirely with residential uses.
The last option discussed was a Business Campus District that would provide for multi -use
buildings and/or establishment of business offices, wholesale showrooms, and related uses. Most
business campus zoning districts are served by a major arterial roadway and transit.
Tom Junnila and Len Pratt shared their thoughts on market conditions of this area and presented
the plan of an office park that had been constructed in the City of Vadnais Heights, which they felt
could be appropriate for Hugo. Rosenquist noted that there were many of these types of office
buildings in Roseville as well, and he felt they fit very well in their surroundings.
Schumann made motion, Rooney seconded, to take the motion off the table from the last meeting.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Schumann made motion, Rosenquist seconded to recommend denial to rezoning of the Cheeta
Property, and table consideration of the Molitior property to allow a committee including
Rosenquist, Rooney, Junnila, Pratt, and the Committee Development Director John Rask, to
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further examine the possibility of changing the zoning to light industrial, and hold a public
hearing at the Planning Commission meeting in November to consider the creation of a light
industrial zoning district.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Zoning Ordinance Amendments
Rosenquist made motion, Rooney seconded, to reschedule the discussion of the zoning ordinance
amendment for Tuesday, October 30, 2001 at 7:00 pm.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Street Width Standards
Rooney said he felt there had been too much negotiating with the developers regarding the width
of streets when discussing and approving new plats, and felt strict standards should be abided by.
Rooney asked that material be provided to the Commission on street widths so City street
standards could be thoroughly evaluated. It was in the agreement of the Planning Commission
that this would be discussed at the Planning Commission in meeting in November.
Adiournment
Rosenquist made motion, Schumann seconded, to adjourn at 9:45 pm.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Michele Lindau, Secretary
Planning Commission