HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990.07.25 PC MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR HUGO PLANNING C
The regular meeting of the planning commission was called to order by
Chariman Senkler at 7:03PM.
PRESENT: Mezzano, Henry, Oswald, Barnes, Senkler, Carole LaBelle
ABSENT: Thoreson
Motion made by Henry, seconded by Senkler to approve the minutes of the
regular meeting of June 27, 1990 as amended.
All aye, motion passed.
Motion made by Senkler, seconded by Mezzano to approve the minutes of the
Special Meeting of the Planning Commisson of July 2, 1990 as amended.
All aye, motion passed.
Chairman Senkler stated that on behalf of the Stillwater School District
(Independent 834), Mr. Dan Parker has made application to the City of Hugo
for a special use permit to place a self contained classroom on their
property at 10158 122nd St. No., Hugo, Minnesota. The 24' X 40' temporary
structure will be located west of the original school facility and will be
used for educational purposes only. The property in question is zoned
agricultural and consists of approximately 9 acres. This will be the
Gird addition to the original Withrow School facility with other
additions being built in 1965 and again in 1974. The applicants have
indicated that it is their intent to use this facility through the 1996
calendar year. The applicants have been notified that construction and
operation of this temporary facility must meet building code requirements
for temporary public facilities of this nature. The structure in question
appears to meet all setback requirements and other zoning requirements.
If the planning Commission feels that this request is consistent with.-
other
ithother activities on site, as well as, the City's comprehensive plan, we
would recommend the special use permit be subject to special conditions.
Mr. Dan Parker representing the Stillwater School District was present to
address questions. Mr. Parker stated that this portable classroom is not
intended to be a permanent fix, however, with the current secondary school
addition, funds are not available. He informed the planning commission
that the state would like an adjoining hallway between the temporary
facility to the school building in the 91-92 school year.
Chairman Senkler opened the public hearing for comments. No one in the
audience commented on this proposal .
Motion made by Oswald, seconded by Henry to recommend approval of the
request by Independent School District 834 for a Special Use Permit to
place a 24' X 40' temporary classroom on their property at 10158 122nd
St., Hugo subject to the following special conditions:
P.C. Minutes - July 25, 1990
page 2
I.S.D.
834 - cont.
1.
The building in question meet
all state building code requirements
for
temporary, public facilities
of this nature.
2.
This special use permit shall
terminate at the end of 1996
school
year.
3.
The structure in question
be
removed from the site within
60 days of
permit expiration.
4.
The structure in question
be
located at least 20' from the
identified
septic system on site.
5.
The structure in question
be
in compliance with all other
codes and
ordinances in the City of
Hugo.
6.
Proper fire extinguishers
and
other warning mechanisms be
installed
within the facility as recommended
by the fire marshal.
All
aye, motion passed.
Amended Special
Chairman Senkler stated that on behalf of the Bald Eagle Sportsman -iii;
Association, Mr. Dennis Schreife1s has made application to the City of
Hugo for an amended special use permit. The property in question is
identified as the west 1/2 of the southwest 1/4 of Section 33, T31N, R21W,
and consists of approximately 80 acres. The property is zoned
agricultural and is currently used for private recreational purposes. The
appropriate notice has been published in the City's legal newspaper and
notices have been sent to property owners regarding this public hearing.
The BESA is requesting authorization to make operational changes on site.
Said changes are as follows:
1. Amend article #8 to read, "The club will be open the last two Sundays
in September and each Sunday in October". The current language reads,
"the club will be open the last two Sundays in September and four
Sundays in October".
2. Amend article #15, adding the language that indicates that the article
in question only applies to shooting events. This change would allow
the club to promote non -shooting activities on site for families and
friends of members.
3. Article #16 be amended to read, "The City shall be notified at least
ten days in advance of any day which extended hours will be used".
That language currently reads that the City shall be notified at least
ten days in advance of any Sunday during which extended hours will be
used". The city staff would recommend that this language if changed
read as follows: The City shall be notified prior to the city council
meeting preceding any day during which extended hours will be
requested.
4. Article #21 be changed to allow the use of muzzleloading, black powder
firearms, and that the language in this article read as follows:
Muzzleloaders in excess of 80 caliber will not be permitted to use
this facility.
P.C. Minutes - July 25, 1990
page 3
5. Amend article #22 to clarify that Goodview Ave. no longer needs to be
maintained by the BESA. This article change would limit their
involvement to providing an annual application of calcium chloride on
125th St. No. from Goodview Ave. to the BESA property entrance. It
should be understood that this condition would only apply until such
time as 125th St. is improved with bituminous surfacing.
6. Article #24 be amended as follows: Four days will be designated as
DCM Shoot days, one day in June, one day in July, one day in August,
and one day in October. The current language allows for two DCM days
in July and two August.
7. Add an article to the permit that would allow a maximum of four law
enforcement agencies to utilize the BESA facility and discharge fire
arms on approved ranges up to five times per agency/year subject to
compliance with article 08 of this permit.
Following review of the files, it would appear that the BESA is in full
compliance with the conditions of their current permit. The last
complaint received by the Washington County Sheriff's Department regarding
operations at this site was in 1985. The last written complaint filed
with the City regarding operations at this facility was in 1987 and that
related to an approved shooting event.
With regard to article #8, it should be noted that originally the BESA
operated every Sunday. Sunday usage was then reduced to every other
Sunday, and later was reduced to the Sundays reflected in the existing
permit. With regard to the use of black powder/muzzleloaders on site, it
should be noted that this type of firearm was permitted on site until some
time in the early 1980's when this right was taken from the club.
Apparently a muzzleloader club had requested the use of the BESA property,
and black powder cannons were discharged on site.
It should also be noted that the BESA has made significant efforts in the
last several years to improve their facility and alter activities on site
to cut down on the amount of noise and irritants to adjacent property
owners. In 1988/89 the club installed a sound entrapment shelter and
safety berms on the rifle range to reduce noise. The club is promoting
the use of the archery range, as well as, family use of the facility for
non -shooting events. Promotion of the use of muzzleloaders on site as
opposed to repeating firearms seems to be another step in the right
direction. In 1990 the club also added to it's reforestation program.
It would appear that the only amendment proposed in this request that
would increase activities at the facility would involve authorized use of
the facility by local law enforcement agencies on an occasional basis.
Even with this increase in activities, all individuals would still have to
operate pursuant to article #8 of the permit.
Mr. Dennis Schreifels, president of the club was present and clarified
that no additional days for DCM Shoots were being requested only a
redistribution of the days. He stated currently the law enforcement
agencies using the facility must maintain the 3 visitors to 1 member ratio
and are requesting this membership clause be waived for these agencies.
P.C. Minutes - July 25, 1990
page 4
Chairman Senkler opened the public hearing. Many area residents were
present.
Representatives from the Washington County Sheriff's Department were
present stating that their intention was to train their tactical unit,
approximately 8-12 members at the BESA. Training would include rifles,
pistol, and shot gun drills. Supervisors would be on site during the
exercises. The sheriff's department anticipate using the facility
approximately five times per year, primarily in the morning and would do
combined drills, using all types of firearms. They stated that Washington
County Sheriff's Department does not have a facility of their own for
practice.
Area residents were adamently opposed to any additional use of the BESA
facility particularly by muzzleloaders and non-members. Residents claimed
that there are currently violations of the existing conditions relating to
early morning shooting. Surrounding residents felt the existing sound
abatement facilities were inadequate and the noise may have even gotten
worse in recent years. Ed and Ann Fashingbauer stated that the club
should be in absolute compliance with all current conditions before
increasing any use at the facility. They also stated that the majority of
club members are not residents of Hugo and felt that the planning
commission should represent the interests of the residents and not club
members. Residents stated that past president, Art Timm was very
accommodating when violations occurred at the club, however, they no
longer experience that cooperation. Fashingbauer's expressed their
opinion that the noise and traffic created by the BESA is a public
nuisance and should be addressed as such by the City. At this point
Chairman Senkler closed the public hearing.
After a lengthy discussion the planning commission concurred that a zero
growth premise should be maintained with regard to the use of the Bald
Eagle Sportsman's Assoc. Members basically had no objection to law
enforcement agencies (particularly Washington County Sheriff's Office)
using the facility but the City should be advised of the specifics, (such
as size of group, number of times per year, types of firearms, etc.) from
each unit before allowing them to use the club. Commissioners would like
additional information on Article 15 regarding non -shooting events at the
club. Would there be shooting and non -shooting activities on the site
simultaneously, expanded hours for non -shooting events, would the 3 to 1
ratio have to be maintained.
Motion made by Senkler, seconded by Oswald to recommend the following
changes to the City Council regarding the Bald Eagle Sportsman's Assoc.
for an amended special use permit.
P.C. Minutes - July 25, 1990
page 5
1. Amend Article #8: The club will be open six consecutive
Sundays
ending with the last Sunday in October.
2. Article #15: No change to current permit.
3. Amend Article #16: The City shall be notified five (5)
working days
prior to the next regularly scheduled city council meeting
preceding
any day during which extended hours will be requested.
4. Article #21: No change to current permit
5. Amend Article #22: Provide an annual application of calcium
chloride
on 125th St. No. from Goodview Ave to the BESA property
entrance and
will be automatically deleted at the time 125th St. is
blacktopped.
6. Amend Article #24: Four days will be designated as DCM
Shoot days,
one in June, one day in July, one day in August, and one
day in
October.
7. No additional article allowing law enforcement agencies
to utilize the
BESA facility.
All aye, motion passed.
The Planning Commission noted that if details are provided
regarding the-
henon-shooting
non-shootingevents and law enforcement agencies using the
facility, they
would reconsider these two changes in the special use permit.
The
commission believes in a "zero growth" premise for the BESA
as it relates
to firearm use because of the changes in the community.
Mr. Miller, Planner for the City of Lino Lakes has notified
the City of
Hugo that they will provide a calendar of meetings, when available,
regarding the proposed industrial area. Commission members
interested in
attending will be contacted by city hall.
Motion made by Senkler, seconded by Henry to adjourn at 9:35PM.
Carole LaBelle