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HUGO PLANNING COMMISSION
December 289 1977 — 7:30 PM
1. Richard & Larry Schmidt
2. James Brevig
3. Charles Shubat
4. Ken Tschida
5, Bald Eagle Sportsman Association
RE: Special Use Permit (Public Hearing)
RE: Special Use Permit
RE: Extension of 130th Street
RE: Addition at Industrial Park
RE: Special Use Permit
MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS
OF THE
HUGO PLANNING COMMISSION
December 28, 1977
The public hearing to consider the request by Larry & Richard Schmidt for a
Special Use Permit was called to order by Chairman Ehret at 7:40 p.m.
PRESENT: Ehret, Peloquin, Peltier, Greger, Gillen, McAllister
Dan Koehler, Washington County Planning, was also present.
ABSENT: Rosenquist
Larry Ehret read notice of public hearing published in the Forest Lake Times
December 8, 1977.
Eugene Peltier — 17205 N. Forest Blvd., Hugo, Minnesota — Mr. Peltier is concerned
about parking. It was a problem to him before when the Nashville North was open.
People were parking in his lot. He had no other objections. Mr. Ehret stated that
parking provisions are part of the requirements of the Special Use Permit.
Mr. Peltier was asked how many feet there were between his property and the old
Nashville North. Mr. Peltier could not state off hand.
19077.72 Feet is the depth of the property. The blacktop goes back 328 feet. The
septic tank is complete except for the lift pump.
Mr. Ehret read letter submitted by the Police Chief Robert Barth.
Peloquin asked how many parking spaces they had. There are 122 marked spaces and
there could be up to 130 spaces at this time.
Larry Nielsen, Attorney representing the Schmidts, was present. He stated that the
Schmidt's would like to wait a year before blacktopping to see how the business was
going.
Mrs. Peltier asked how many games there would be. There will be a couple pool tables
and a couple foos ball machines.
The public hearing was closed at 8:03 p.m.
Motion made by Ehret, seconded by McAllister, to approve the minutes of the December
14, 1977, with the following changes:
Page 1 (Schmidt) 9th line — 13 blue spruce instead of 13' blue spruce.
— All proposed narking areas were eliminated .
10th line — after comma — there could be 5 trees.
Page 4 (W.B.Rod) 2nd line — could make no comment.
7th line — The word with should be scratched.
Page 5 (Proof of Ownership) — 1. that title is correct and current.
2, that title is correct and current.
3, that title is correct and current.
4. The contract holder as one of the three above.
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Page 2 (1st line in the amendment to the motion) - spelling of completion.
(7th line in the amendment to the motion) - be maintained by owner,
RICHARD & LARRY SCEDIIDT - SPECIAL USE PMnT
Mr. McAllister asked what the maximum capacity of the building was. Six hundred
was the declared maximum - 250 first room (bar & lounge). The second room will
be opened later.
Mr. Nielsen stated that they would like to gravel the parking lot in the back
rather than blacktop and they would like a variance to blacktop for one year.
Mr. Schmidt quoted the State Fire Marshall saying there was a capacity of 272
people for the game room and bar & lounge. The bar room will not be opened on
week nights unless on special occasions. Angle of the lights shine 50' wide
and 40' deep. Mr. Schmidt stated that trees are $40.00 for a 2 foot tree. They
request that they be allowed to plant trees 2' or less.
Mr. McAllister asked if they would go along with the Police Department's recommen-
dations. Mr. Peloquin said that he didn't think it was anyones business whether
they have policemen or not. No other establishment in the city is required to
have policemen.
The Planning Commission took note of the Police Department's recommendations and
will forward it to the City Council.
McAllister made motion, seconded by Greger, to approve the Special Use Permit
for Richard and Larry Schmidt with the following restrictions:
1. Curb or fencing shall be required to be installed in such a manner to„de
access or egress to the back area other than the designated entrance including
the unpaved areas.
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2. That the declared maximum capacity is 600 people.
3. By September 309 1978, the owners blacktop sufficient space for 150 automobiles
total, minimum to be determined by existing ordinance. By September 30, 1979,
the ownersshall provide sufficient blacktop for 175 automobiles total. By
September 309 1980, the owners shall provide sufficient blacktop for 200 auto-
mobiles total, the declared maximum capacity. The owners shall provide a
irrevocable letter of credit to the city of Hugo in the first year in the
amount of $159000. The letter to be reduced by 1/3 of the face amount each
year*
4. Septic system be reviewed by the Buidling Inspector semi-annually and sent to
the Health Department,
5. That the screen by provided in the site plan and the trees be 2 - 3 feet and that
they be maintained and replaced if necessary. $19000 irrevocable letter of
credit be provided to the city until screening is completed. Screening to be
completed no later than September 309 1978.
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6. That lighting be provided to illuminate entire parking area.
7. That the bumper curbing or fencing be completed by June 30, 1978, as indicated
on the site plan. $29000 irrevocable letter of credit be provided to the city
to insure the completion of the curbing or fencing by June 30, 1978.
8. No parking be allowed on Highway 61 or the right -of -Tway.
Peloquin objected to the maximum of 600 people in the motion and to blacktopping.
Mr. Peloquin would like to review the Special Use Permit on October 19 1978.
Gillen made motion, seconded by McAllister, to delete "as per site plan" on motion
#7 about bumper curbing.
All aye. Motion carried.
Mr. Nielsen stated that they had no objections to the motion other than the motion
for blacktop. They didn't know if they would be able to regulate parking on
Highway 61 but would do everything in their power to deal with it.
Motion made by McAllister, seconded by Peltier, to amend the motion to delete the
restriction on the parking on Highway 61 #8.
Five ayes. Peloquin apposed. Motion carried.
VOTING FOR: Greger, Gillen, McAllister
VOTING AGAINST: Peloquin, Peltier, Ehret
Motion failed.
Mr. Nielsen asked about a mandatory review at a certain time to break the deadlock.
Motion made by Ehret, seconded by Peltier, that the Special Use Permit for Larry
and Richard Schmidt be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Same as in the previous motion.
2. Same as in the previous motion.
3. The additional parking spaces required by ordinance be allowed to be crushed
rock for a period not to exceed 2 years beginning at July 19 1978. At the
end of said time the seating capacity is as was stated, that blacktop be
required for additional parking spaces. A $15,000 irrevocable letter of credit
shall be provided to the city to insure installation of blacktop to run
concurrent with the 2 years beginning with July 19 1978. Said crushed rock to
be installed by July 1, 1978.
Additional motions are same as in previous motion as amended.
Gillen interpreted Ehrets motion as a variance and he didn't feel that he could
vote for it. Ehret stated that it was not a variance but only an extension of
time.
VOTING FOR: Peloquin, Peltier, Gillen, McAllister, Ehret
VOTING AGAINST: Greger
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Motion carried.
Ehret stated that we needed additional copies of the site plan.
Recessed at 9:40. Reconvened at 9:45.
JAMES BREVIG - SPECIAL USE PERMIT
Ehret read request for a Special Use Permit to build a pole barn. He read an
accompanied letter from property owners 350 feet from the perimeter of his
property. It was unanimous that they did not object to the building of a
pole barn. Those listed were: Thomas L. Bushinski, Jerome W. Hintz, Robert D.
Oswald, Vincent T. Verrecchio, Richard J. Vail, Donald B. Cinoski, Delmar C.
Thompson, Leonard M. KIjenski, Dennis A. Sullivan, Robert L. Waller. Proposed
use of building is for storage of vehicles, campers, boats and furniture all
owned by Mr. Brevig or his family. It will not be used for rental of storage
space. Access to the pole building will be the same as access to the existing
building. There are two accesses, one by the house and one on the north part
of the property. Dan Koehler stated that anything over 1,000 sq. feet cannot
be considered residential accessory structure and therefore, is consic?ered a
commercial structure according to the State Building Code, Mr. Brevig said that
it would be completely hid from view. The building would be 200 feet from the
easement.
Gillen made motion, seconded by Peloquin, to refer the Special Use Permit of Mr.
Brevig to the Ordinance Committee for a clarification of accessory buildings in
RR2 and all residential areas. The Ordinance Committee is to reply to the Planning
Commission in a period not to exceed 45 days.
All Aye. Motion carried.
CHARLES SHUBAT - EXTENSION OF 130TH STREET
Mr. Shubat submitted maps describing the area. McAllister submitted a note to
the file on information he received from Howard Kuusisto regarding the existing
cartway. Ehret stated that the request was answered by city records regarding
the existence of a cartway. He told Mr. Shubat that his next step would be to
get together with the city planner on how to proceed and get a formal letter from
the city engineer on the status of the cartway. Mr. Shubat asked if Mr. Axelson and
Mr. Molitor should be involved. Mr. Koehler said that Mr. Molitor already has an
access and that he would not benefit from another access. Mr. Peloquin said he
preferred a "T" rather than a cul-de-sac. Mr. Shubat was told to check with the
city planner on different possibilities of a dead-end.street. A discussion was
held on the definitions of minor or major subdivisions. Mr. Koehler suggested
making a recommendation to the Council that any land division which creates 4 or
more lots be a major subdivision. Ehret requested that the Planner contact the
attorhey and city engineer on interpretations.
Mr. Gillen left at 10:30.
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KEN TSCHIDA - ADDITION AT INDUSTRIAL PARK
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Ehret read application for an addition to an existing building in the industrial "I Nv,,,,,�.
park. Peloquin stated that a site plan is all they needed, oy s , owner
of Accessory Research Engineering stated that they are an assembly operation of ( 7
aircraft instruments and motorcycle gauges and their present plant was destroyed
by a boiler fire and they are presently under an extreme hardship. Mr. Koehler
agreed with Mr. Peloquin that all they would need was a site plan. Mr. Ehret
stated that the site plan presented was incomplete. It did not state the type of
structure - the parking lot was not located on the site plan and the parking sites
were not shown on the parking lot as Mr. Tschida was instructed by Mr. Koehler,
Mr. McAllister stated that he wanted to go on record as saying that he will never
vote on another item from Grace Development that is incomplete.
McAllister made motion, seconded by Peltier, that the request made by Grace
Development be sent to the City Council without recommendations. The reason for
forwarding the request to the City Council without sufficient data from Grace
Development is that the Planning Commission'feels that Accessory Research Engineering
is under extreme pressure and hardship at this time.
VOTING FOR: Peloquin, Peltier, Greger, Gilleng McAllisterg Ehret,
Motion Carried,
BALD EAGLE SPORTSMAN ASSOCIATION- SPECIAL USE PERMIT
Peltier felt that someone should go out and look at the Bald Eagle Sportsman Club
before a special meeting is scheduled.
Motion made by Greger, seconded by McAllisterg to have a special meeting for
Thursdays January 59 19779 at 7:00 p.m* to consider Bald Eagle Sportsman
Association Special Use Permit,
All Aye. Motion carried.
(Clerk to send out notices)
Ehret to set up time to go through the Sportsman Club, January 2nd at 10:30 a.m.
is scheduled for the time to inspect the Sportsman Club.
A discussion was held on how to improve the Planning Commission procedures. Letter
of credits should be automatic on certain items. We have a right to ask for City
Attorney or City Engineer to attend a meeting. Dan Koehler will submit a check list
for the Planning.Commission approval.
It is recommended to the City Council that the changes of procedures for the
Planning Commission be adopted.
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Motion made by Ehret# seconded by Peltier, instructing the secretary to send a
letter to Mr. Rosenquist asking him whether he intends to be a regular member
or not, and if not: that he send his letter of resignation.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Motion made by Peltierq seconded by McAllister, that the Planning Commission
recommends to the City Council that they reappoint Peloquin to the Planning
Commission.
4 Ayes. abstained. Motion carried.
Motion made by Peltier, seconded by McAllister, that the City Couucil reappoint
Larry Ehret to be Chairman of the Planning Commission.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Peloquin made motion, seconded by Peltier, to adjourn at 12:00 p.m.
All Ayes. Motion Carries
Marie Jansen
Hugo Planning Commission