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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974.01.23 PC Minutes �. . MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF HUGO PLANNING COMMISSION January 23, 1974 The meeting was called to order at 8:13 P.M. by Chairman Larry Ehret. Members present were: Johnson, Ehret, Peloquin, Rosen- quiet, Norden and Leroux (arrived at 8:40 P.M. ) . Also present were Irene Leroux, City Council Member, and Bill Schwab, City Planning Consultant. Motion made by Johnson, seconded by Rosenquist, to approve I minutes of January 8, 1974 meeting after the name Paulson was changed to Peloquin. Motion Carried. Correspondence - Larry Ehret read a letter from the Village Council regarding the White Bear Rod and G n Club requesting the Planning Commis- sion omais- sion contact them and obtain all necessary information regarding their request for a Special Use Permit. Motion made by Rosenquist, seconded by Johnson, that Marie Jansen write a letter to the White Bear Rod and Gun Club requesting that they appear at the meeting of February 12th with all their information and make their intentions be known. Motion carried. A letter was submitted to the Planning Commission from Howard Kuus isto, Consulting Engineer, regarding Sunset Lake. The letter was filed until Mr. Robert Reynolds appoints a local representative. Mr. David Norden was appointed by the City Council as a new member of the Planning Commission to take the seat of Mr. Ed Kuntz. OAK VISTA ESTATES Mr. Ehret read a letter submitted to the Planning Commission by Mr. Jerry Mogren from Oak Vista Estates. Mr. Mogren stated in his letter that he requests a variance to the Preliminary Plat to allow a 1175 foot cul-de-sac street (Hadley Avenue) . He also requested they be allowed to construct a 7 ton capacity gravel surface road in lieu of bituminous due to future utility construction. Mr. Mogren outlined their proposal for open space and park land fund dedication. Mr. Ehret read Howard Kuusisto' s engineering report. Regarding Mr. Kuusisto3 s recommendation that Items 8,9, and 10 be complied with, Mr. Folz stated they will be taken care of by berms. At - - . • -2- Motion made by Johnson, seconded by Leroux, accepting the preliminary plat for Oak Vista Estate subject to these four items: 1. The engineer's five year road inprovement plan in the area of 125th and Goodview Avenue. 2. Subject to the agreement of blacktop streets. 3. The amount of park land dedication will be decided upon final plat. 4. Subject to lots being acceptable for on-site sewer dis- posal and removal of any lots not meeting percolation tests. Members for: Johnson, Ehret, Leroux, Peloquin, Rosenquist and Norden. HARDWOOD CREEK ESTATES Mr. Mugg and Mr. Hult explained their preliminary plat of Hardwood Creek Estates. They made the following comments: - The plat is 192 acres in size. - Would like to donate Mugg Park to the Village of Hugo which is approximately 32 acres. - Will construct gravel or blacktop roads, which ever the village recommends. - It.: will be a cluster type development with a density per lot of almost six acres. - Elevation of land on map. - Some percolation tests have been done with no problems. - They have some trouble with water table. - They have a natural gas line through this property which can be used for a fuel source. Red line on the map repre- sents the pipe line. - Utilities and roads will be in. - Average size of lots are two acres. -- Smallest lot frontage 180' minimum width. - There will be 33 lots. - They intend on selling and building the lots. - Private wells will be installed. - They are within Forest Lake School District. Mr. Ehret read the subdivision requirements that have to be complied with. Mr. Schwab said that a few more borings should be done. A discussion was held on the water level on the southern lots and Mr. Mugg stated they did not know whether they would lower the water level or fill. r -- - z _3_ Mr. Ehret read the letter submitted to the Planning Commission from the City Consultant Engineer. A copy of the letter was given to Mr. Mugg. Proposed building sites and set-back lines have not been shown on the map and will have to be done. The commission requested that Mr. Mugg obtain a letter from the Gas Company regarding the gas main and get in touch with the Highway Department regarding access:'onto Highway 61. Mr. Mugg was also requested to contact the Rice Creek Water Shed. Motion made by Rosenquist, seconded by Johnson, to lay the matter over of the Hardwood Creek Estates, setting a public hearing for the meeting of February 27th pending that we have the correct information by February 12th. Members for: Rosenquist, Ehret, Johnson, Norden, Peloquin, and Leroux. Motion carried. GEORGE INDYKIEWICZ Mr. Ehret read the Brighton Excavating's request for a mining permit renewal. Harley Johnson asked what they were going to do with the land after the black dirt is removed. Mr. Indykiewicz stated that they were filling it in with sand. Motion made by Leroux that they recommend renewal of the Brighton Excavating mining permit. Motion carried. VERN PELO UIN A letter was submitted to the Planning Commission from the City Council regarding Vern Peloquin's minor subdivision. Motion made by Norden, seconded by Leroux, to recommend approval of the Vern Peloquin minor subdivision contingent on the com- pleted survey. Members for: Rosenquist, Ehret, Johnson, Norden, and Leroux. Peloquin abstained. Motion carried. ZONING MAP Carl Dale stated that the theory of approach of following the sewer map doesn' t work. Mr. Dale wanted to go down on record that he doei Fnot go along with the 20 acre zone and has never agreed with it. l_ -4- Mr. Dale does not believe staying with the 20 acre district is practical for economic reasons. Twenty acres lower the land value. The city would have a great expense for legal fees. He. Suggested he be allowed another month or two weeks to develop a third plan. He suggested the followings - Staying with 20 acre only - conservanyf . Conservancy would be better defined and it should be put in the text that the conservancy can be continually defined. —Considerfor the main agricultural area zone - 10 acres. People would have to pay premium prices for 10 acres than a developed lot in the city but it wouldn' t be as much as for 20 acres. - Five acre minimum in outlining areas where it is already chopped up. Five acres is still double what is necessary for on-site sewer system. Five year improvement increment - one acre with the house situated so it ean further be subdivided. - Ten year improvement increment - 3 acres. Mr. Dale stated that if we stayed with the 20 acres with one and three acres there is nothing to change on the zoning map and there will be only a change in the text. He also stated we review and update the ordinance every 3 to 5 years and a public hearing be held. Mr. Dale suggested we allow them to come up with this alternative and schedule a special meeting of the Planning Commission and Village Council. Motion made by Peloquin, Seconded by Johnson, that the Planning Commission schedule a work session for February 28th at 8:00 P.M. Motion carried. Mr. Thomas LaValle requested to be put on the agenda for a mining permit renewal but did not appear. Motion made by Rosenquist, seconded by Leroux, that we adjourn meeting at 11s10 P.M. Motion carried. Marie Jansen, Secretary Hugo Planning Commission