HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015.07.23 PC MinutesMinutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of July 23, 2015
Vice Chair, Kleissler called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Arcand, Kleissler, Lessard, McRoberts
ABSENT: Knauss, Rosenquist
STAFF: Bryan Bear, City Administrator
Rachel Juba, Planner
Rachel Leitz, Community Development Assistant
Approval of Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of July 9, 2015
Commissioner Arcand made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Lessard, to approve minutes for the
meeting of July 9, 2015.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
McRoberts abstained.
D.R. Horton- Clearwater Cove Preliminary Plat and PUD
Planner Juba presented on the Clearwater Cove Preliminary Plat and PUD. Juba described that the
developer would be proposing a residential development on two vacant parcels located south of
Frenchman Road (CR 8) and east of Everton Avenue. She described that the preliminary plat shows 89
proposed lots, where approximately 25 units would be completed within phase one and the major road
connection (Oneka Parkway) to Frenchman Road would be constructed in phase two.
Juba stated that the developer would be requesting a Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for
flexibility to implement the neighborhood design they are proposing. The developer would be asking
for flexibility on lot sizes, setbacks, and shoreland requirements. In return, the City can expect trails and
sidewalk connections, a public park with improvements, water re -use, and an efficient/ creative layout.
Staff believes that the layout of the proposed Clearwater Cove development exceeds the City's standards
for residential developments and meets PUD standards.
Juba concluded by stating that it is in staff's opinion that the Clearwater Cove development is creatively
planned with amenities for residents, which include a public park, sidewalks, trail connections, and a
stormwater re -use system. Staff recommends approval to the Planning Commission for the Clearwater
Cove Preliminary Plat and PUD.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, invited the applicant to speak at the podium.
Mike Suel, the D.R. Horton developer, came forward to the podium. He began by stating that the PUD
request is to allow flexibility on the site to accommodate issues with high ground water, sewer
elevations, and the crossing structure to access the property. Mr. Suel stated that the lots are similar in
size to the Victor Gardens development, which will help form a more cohesive look throughout
developments. He described that most of the homes will be two story walk -outs, but that D.R. Horton.
does offer some rambler plans. Mr. Suel stated that D.R. Horton will begin by offering approximately 8
home plans, but those will change as buyer preferences change. He stated that all of the home designs
have different brick and stone, siding materials, and elevations. He added that the most current site plan
has one more tree per lot than shown on the plan the Commission was seeing tonight, which exceeds the
landscape requirements for residential developments.
Commissioner Arcand inquired as to if that meant there were now a total of two trees per lot.
Mr. Suel stated that there would now be two trees per lot, but corner lots and rear yards abutting the
ponds will have even more trees installed.
Commissioner Arcand asked the developer what the future plan is for Outlot G.
Mr. Suel stated that if the land to the southwest develops the outlot will be turned into rear yard space
for those future homes, but if D.R. Horton gets to the final phase of their development and the land to
the southwest hasn't developed yet, they will extend the rear yard lot lines for those homes within the
Clearwater Cove development.
Commissioner McRoberts inquired as to why the shoreland requirement has a minimum lot area of
15,000 square feet.
Planner Juba stated that the requirement is in the ordinance and it would only effect houses within 300
feet of the creek.
Commissioner McRoberts stated that the proposed reduction seemed to be quite large in comparison to
ordinance requirements.
Mr. Suel stated that D.R. Horton chose to have more open space within their development. He stated
that they can get closer to a minimum lot area of 15,000 square feet if they chose a different design for
the development, like putting lots along the creek, but chose a design to benefit the public at large.
City Administrator, Bear, described that cities are required to have a shoreland zoning overlay
ordinance. He stated that drainage ways over a specific acreage or length are recommended by the DNR
and the reasoning behind this is to control density and impervious surfaces, which may improve runoff
and water quality. Bear stated that this gets a little confusing when streams and creeks end up in ditches,
compared to some of the pristine creeks thought of when the ordinance was made, which is why there is
a minimum lot area of 15,000 sq. ft. Bear stated that he agrees with the applicant that it would be
relatively easy to extend lot sizes and meet the technical requirement. He did remind the Planning
Commission that a PUD request would allow flexibility on this requirement, which would limit the lot
size but increase green space.
Commissioner Arcand asked what "possible future connection" to the park meant.
Juba described that the property to the south has not yet developed. She stated that the City's trail plan
has the trail extending to Clearwater Creek Preserve Park, so when that specific lot is developed the trail
connection will extend from the Clearwater Cove trail into the park.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, opened the public hearing at 7:32 p.m.
Deborah Johnson, 14196 Fenway Ave. N., spoke at the podium. She stated that she and her husband
own the property just south of the proposed development. She wanted clarification on how close the
houses would come to the property line that abuts their parcel. Mrs. Johnson stated that there had been a
lot of talk regarding the future development of their property, but that they have been approached by
many developers who have told them their property isn't suitable for future development because of
wetlands. Mrs. Johnson also wanted to know what happens with the creek, especially in relation to
debris, what D.R. Morton is proposing to do to the trees along the creek, how they will construct a bike
path with the high ground water on the parcel, and if there is any deterrent to residents to not continue
onto their property from the trail.
Harley Johnson, 14196 Fenway Ave. N., spoke at the podium. He stated that he is most concerned with
the trail. He doesn't want people walking onto their property, which is used as a sod field, and believes
it will be easy to do when the trail ends right at the property line. Mr. Johnson also inquired as to if
sewer and water would be stubbed at the road ending at the property line between themselves and the
proposed development.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, stated that Staff could answer questions as they are asked by residents.
City Administrator, Bear, stated that the extension of Oneka Parkway will be stubbed with sewer and
water at the south property line. He also described that the ditch that runs on these properties is a part of
the judicial ditch that is regulated by Rice Creek Watershed District (RCWD). Bear stated that RCWD
has extensive rules on maintenance of these ditches and taking out debris and piling it on the side of the
ditch is a part of this maintenance process. Bear stated that this process is generally done for a cost
saving measure. Bear moved onto the next question stating that the land in which D.R. Horton is
proposing their development on is not classified as a wetland, but instead a floodplain. He stated that
quite a bit of this property is in the floodplain and the floodplain extends onto the Johnson's property as
well. Bear stated that floodplain boundaries can be manipulated, which is why D.R. Horton is proposing
ponding which will also provide fill to build up the site and bring it out of the floodplain. Bear stated
that he does not see the Johnson's property as undevelopable and believes that a wetland delineation
would be pertinent to understanding more about their property. Bear lastly stated that the Planning
Commission should have further discussions on the trail, taking into consideration the Johnsons
concerns about residents trespassing on their land.
Tim Scanlan, 4767 Dahlia Way N., spoke at the podium. He stated that his rear yard will border the
proposed development. Mr. Scanlan described that his back yard has quite a lot of issues with standing
water, currently, and he is concerned that development of phase one will make the water issues worse on
his property. Mr. Scanlan also stated that there is currently a tree buffer between the Victor Gardens
properties and Mr. LaValle's property. He is concerned that this tree line would be bulldozed with the
current landscape plan provided by D.R. Horton and that the proposed landscape would not provide as
adequate of a buffer between the developments. Mr. Scanlan also encouraged construction access
separate from Everton Avenue.
Planner, Juba, stated that grading will be completed behind the lots on the west side of the proposed
Clearwater Cove development. She described that this process will help move water into the ponds.
Juba also described that some trees may need to be removed to put in the applicant's proposed
landscaping plan.
Mr. Suel stated that their engineer has designed a swale that will be on D.R. Horton's property, which
will help direct water to the ponds. In addition to this, drain the will be installed to help pull the water
out of this area. He stated that most of the trees on Mr. LaValle's property will have to come out to be
sure they get good drainage on the property, but suggested that Mr. Scanlan and him meet to discuss
new ideas regarding a suitable landscape buffer between developments. Mr. Suet next described that
D.R. Horton has talked to the land owner, Mr. LaValle, and he is in agreement to let D.R. Horton use his
property for construction access to the proposed site. Mr. Suet said that they would do their best to keep
construction access off of Everton Ave., but the construction traffic will be dependent on how much
weight the culvert can hold. Mr. Suel then offered up a suggestion to the Planning Commission
regarding the trail. He stated that he would be willing to stop construction of the trail where it enters the
most southern cul-de-sac and would escrow the money to build the rest of the trail upon development of
the parcel to the south.
Scott Bliss, 14279 Everton Ave. N., spoke at the podium. He stated that there is a half circle drive that
has not been maintained since their development had been completed. Mr. Bliss stated that he would
like that turned back into lawn or would be fine to keep it if this area was maintained.
Mr. Suel stated that he assumed D.R. Horton would be required to remove the half cul-de-sac and install
sidewalks and sod.
Juba stated that staff will continue to work with the applicant and property owner on how to handle this
situation. She said it will be important to understand the agreement between the past developer and
property owner.
Deborah Johnson, 14196 Fenway Ave. N., spoke at the podium. She stated that she would like to see a
nice, quality bridge over the creek into this proposed development and would like it to be different than
that of Fable Hills.
Kevin Garrett, 4772 Dahlia Way N., spoke at the podium. He stated that he appreciates efforts to
mitigate the drainage issues. Mr. Garrett asked what the time frame was for extending Everton Avenue
to 140th St. N. He also inquired as to when a stop light would be installed on Everton Ave. and
Frenchman Road.
Juba stated that Everton Avenue and Oneka Parkway are shown to have future extensions to 140th St. N.
on the City's Comprehensive Plan. She described that there isn't necessarily a timeline because no one
knows then the land to the south will develop. Juba then described that the stop light is something
Washington County would evaluate as well as for any other intersection on the county road.
Curtis Engel, 14276 Everton Ave. N., spoke at the podium. He stated that he is concerned about
construction access to the proposed site off of Everton Avenue. Mr. Engel described that this is an
important issue that surrounds the health and safety of not only the residents in Victor Gardens, but also
the community at large and he would like the Planning Commission to take that into consideration.
Mark Viker, 4545 Garden. Way N., spoke at the podium. Mr. Viker voiced his concern regarding
increased traffic on Everton Ave., especially including heavy construction equipment traffic. He also
was wondering if D.R. Horton was interested in meeting with residents of Victor Gardens to talk more
about the house designs and landscape plan. He felt like the residents of Victor Gardens would be
interested in looking at the four-sided architecture of these homes, especially when some of the proposed
D.R. Horton homes would back up to homes in Victor Gardens. Mr. Viker asked if the City could
facilitate this meeting.
Commissioner McRoberts asked staff if this meeting was feasible.
Planner Juba stated that the applicant can decide if they would like to attend such a meeting with the
Victor Gardens residents. She stated that it is important to remember that this development isn't a part
of the Victor Gardens PUD and therefore, does not have the same standards. This means that the homes
in the proposed development are not required to have the substantial four-sided architecture seen in the
Victor Gardens development.
Mr. Suel stated that he believes the D.R. Horton proposed homes will fit in with homes seen in the City
of Hugo. He stated that customers look more on front aesthetics, which is why D.R. Horton offers
different options on the types of materials on the fronts of homes. He stated that D.R. Horton builds
houses based on customer desires and that four-sided architecture is not important to most customers.
Mr. Suet stated that decks and four season porches are generally added, in the future, which helps break
up the backs of these homes. Mr. Suel stated that he would be happy to talk to the Victor Gardens
residents, but can't guarantee that their home plans will be changed.
Jerry Walen, 4651 Flora Way N., spoke at the podium. He stated that drainage is an issue within the
Creek Side Villas. He suggested that if drainage issues continue to be an issue after construction that the
builder should be required to return and solve this issue. Mr. Walen also suggested that the Planning
Commission require the developer to add more trees to their landscape buffer plan or require D.R.
Horton to not to take out any trees from the backs of their properties. He recommended that the homes
in the proposed development should have a height restriction, as these will be so much larger than those
within the Victor Gardens development. Mr. Walen wanted to voice his concern regarding traffic on
Everton Avenue and also wanted to suggest that Oneka Parkway get extended in the first phase.
Commissioner McRoberts asked to why Oneka Parkway couldn't be built in the first phase.
Mr. Suel stated that he would prefer the Oneka Parkway extension to be built in phase one, but it is not
feasible with the information collected at this time. He stated that the City is in the process of looking at
drainage and that this study will continue through the winter. He described that this study is needed to
establish the type of crossing structure needed to extend over the creek. Mr. Suel stated that at this
point, D.R. Horton believes they will have a full bridge, at 80 feet wide, to cross the creek. He described
that D.R. Horton has put up a financial guarantee that the extension of Oneka Parkway, including the
bridge crossing, will be constructed no matter what. This means if only phase one of Clearwater Cove
goes through, the City can still build both structures themselves.
City Administrator, Bear, asked Mr. Suel to talk about what people should expect in phase one of the
development.
Mr. Suel stated that phase one shows 32 lots but the final plat should have 28 lots. He described that 4
lots, along Oneka Parkway, were taken out of the phase one plan. Mr. Suel said that home construction
would begin at the end of October, if everything goes perfect, but otherwise at the end of November. He
said that they would start 3 or 4 homes to begin and if the market continues to do what is predicted, 1-2
homes would be built per month. Mr. Suel stated that there would be approximately 20 homes built by
the time Oneka Parkway is constructed. He said that they would add signs to Everton Avenue that
would limit construction traffic when Oneka Parkway is constructed.
Kris Birch, 14258 Grantaire Ln., spoke at the podium. He restated the concern with increased traffic
and construction access through Everton Avenue. He also stated that he would also be interested in
attending the meeting with D.R. Horton to discuss home designs.
Deborah Johnson, 14196 Fenway Ave. N., spoke at the podium. She stated that there are a lot of trees
along the creek where the trail is proposed and was wondering if those will be kept. She also asked
what the sideyard setback is for the homes furthest to the south that are next to their property. She stated
that she does not believe that those homes need to be so close to their property.
Tim Scanlan, 4767 Dahlia Way N., spoke at the podium. He stated that the Creekside Villas have been
waiting for final resurfacing of roads. He inquired as to if the construction of this development would
delay this process.
City Administrator, Bear, stated that this development would not delay that process.
Planner, Juba, spoke on Mrs. Johnson's questions. She stated that the City does not have setbacks for
the exterior of the plat boundary and currently the homes are 7.5 feet from the property line. Juba
described that it doesn't look like too many trees will be removed from the trail, but believed the
applicant would be better equipped to answer that question.
Fran Hagen, the engineer working with D.R. Horton, spoke at the podium. He stated that the trail has to
be a certain distance away from the creek to abide by watershed requirements. This means that 50 feet
from the center of the ditch is where grading will start. Mr. Hagen stated that the trees will be able to be
saved until the ponds need to be constructed. Mr. Hagen also wanted to address some of the concerns
regarding water drainage issues by stating that they are creating 120,711 cubic feet of storage more than
there is currently in the floodplain.
City Administrator, Bear, stated that the land along the ditch right of way is subject to maintenance by
the watershed district. The trees that are seen growing along the ditch are volunteer trees that have
grown because of lack of maintenance. Bear stated that these trees will be removed as a part of a ditch
maintenance project in the future, if not removed from construction of this development.
Mark Viker, 4545 Garden Way N., spoke at the podium. He asked if the City can facilitate a meeting
between the developer and the Victor Gardens residents.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, closed the public hearing at 8:23 p.m.
Commissioner McRoberts requested that Staff participate in the discussion with the developer and
Victor Garden residents.
City Administrator, Bear, wanted to clarify Commissioner McRoberts request. He asked if
Commissioner McRoberts wanted this meeting to happen prior to the request being submitted to the City
Council. Bear also reminded the Planning Commission that there was another suggested meeting with
the property owners along the west side concerning the issues with drainage and the landscape buffer.
Commissioner McRoberts stated that the meeting did not have to occur prior to the request being
submitted to the City Council. He also believed that the issue regarding drainage and the Landscape
buffer seemed to have been addressed through conversations within the public hearing.
Commissioner McRoberts asked if something could be changed regarding the 7.5 feet between the plot
boundary and property line.
City Administrator, Bear, stated that houses may be setback further than proposed to accommodate the
grade shown in the plan. He reminded the Planning Commission that the long term plan is to have
Oneka Parkway extend to the south. In this case, there would be modifications to the ditch and lots
would follow the extended road with similar lot arrangements shown in the proposed development.
Commissioner Lessard stated that he used to be a resident on Everton Avenue. After reviewing the
proposed plan, he had a concern regarding traffic on Everton Avenue, but believes that the traffic issues
and an alternative construction access point to the site had been well addressed the by developer.
Commissioner Arcand wanted clarification that the request for the meeting between staff, the developer,
and residents of Victor Gardens was separate from the approval.
Commissioner McRoberts stated that it was.
Planner, Juba, reminded the Planning Commission of some of the concerns mentioned earlier in the
meeting. She stated that the Commission may want to add conditions of approval, such as the
termination of the trail ending at the most southern cul-de-sac and money to be escrowed for completion
of the trail.
Commissioner McRoberts made a motion, Commissioner Arcand seconded to approve the Clearwater
Cove Preliminary Plat and PUD with an added condition of approval for the termination of the trail
ending at the most southern cul-de-sac and money to be escrowed for completion of the trail.
All ayes. Motion carried.
City Administrator, Bear, stated that the meeting between groups is something staff is willing to
participate in and the developer seems to be willing to, as well. If the Planning Commission wants staff
to conduct this meeting, they will have to let them know.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, stated that the Planning Commission encourages the meeting between staff, the
developer, and residents of Victor Gardens.
Frauenshuh Commercial Real Estate on Behalf of Park Dental- PUD General Plan/Site Plan
Planner, Juba, presented on the Park Dental. PUD General Plan/ Site Plan from the applicant Frauenshuh
Commercial Real Estate. Juba described that the applicant is proposing an 8,001 square foot
commercial building, which will be built in two phases. The first phase would be a 5,050 sq. ft.
building, which would home the new Park Dental location. This commercial building would be located
north of Frenchman. Road (CR 8) and east of Elmcrest Avenue.
Juba explained that in 2009, there was approval for a 12,000 square foot retail building on the property,
but the development did not get completed. Now, there are new owners and there is a contract on the
property for a commercial building with Park Dental. Juba explained that this property is located within
the Victor Gardens PUD. In short, the design concept for this PUD includes neighborhoods defined by
public spaces, a range of housing types, street designs and pedestrian walkways that keep cars in
perspective, architecture that responds to its surrounding and local traditions, and a mix of land uses to
meet the daily needs of residents. One of the consistent themes of the Victor Gardens PUD has been the
exceptional architecture that has been maintained throughout the development. The previous approvals
for Victor Gardens North Village 3rd Addition require this development to be architecturally compatible
with the rest of Victor Gardens and required that all four sides of the commercial buildings will have
comparable finishes, leaving no underdeveloped backside of the building. The PUD design concept for
Victor Gardens is a "French Village" setting with buildings constructed with a French/European
architectural influence.
Juba concluded that the applicant complies with the intent of the original. PUD approvals to provide a
traditional neighborhood development. After review, the PUD general plan/site plan is consistent with
ordinance standards as the applicable PUD standards for Victor Gardens. Juba stated that staff finds the
application is consistent with the standards with the conditions of approval as recommended in the
attached resolution.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, invited the applicant to the podium to speak on the application.
Ross Hedlund, Vice President at Frauenshuh Commercial Real Estate, spoke at the podium. He stated
that this building will be constructed in two different phases. He described that the first phase building
will be used for general dentistry and have approximately 14 rooms. He reminded the Planning
Commission that Park Dental is currently located across the street, but needs a larger building to meet
the demands of the City of Hugo and surrounding areas. Mr. Hedlund next described that the second
phase, of approximately 3,000 sq. ft. would house an affiliate of Park Dental that does specialty dental
care, like orthodontics, etc.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, opened the public hearing at 8:55 p.m.
Mark Viker, 4545 Garden Way N., spoke at the podium. He stated that he is the Chair of Victor
Gardens Architectural Review Committee. He described that the review committee had already
approved the design plans that were presented and believed the building was a very nice looking
structure that provided a good example of 4 sided architecture. He stated that he believes that this
building will reflect well on the Hugo community.
Vice Chair, Kleissler, closed public hearing at 8:57 p.m.
Commissioner Arcand stated that he liked the look of the building and thinks the lower profile of the
building provides for a nice entrance into the City.
Commissioner McRoberts stated that be lives on Elmcrest Avenue. He described that he has a general
concern on traffic flow throughout that area and putting a lot of traffic on Elmcrest. Commissioner
McRoberts explained that he believes that the structure is well designed and looks nice.
Commissioner McRoberts motions, seconded by Commissioner Lessard, to approve the PUD General
Plan/Site Plan for Park Dental.
All Ayes. Motion Carried.
New Business
Planner Juba explained that on Monday, July 20, 2015 the City Council accepted Rick Gwynn's
resignation. The City asks the Planning Commissioners to put in letter of interest within two weeks
(August 6, 2015) for the Chair position, if they are interested. After a Chair is established, the Planning
Commission will elect a Vice Chair. Also, there is a vacancy on the Board of Zoning and Ordinance
Review Committee, so a Planning Commission member will need to be elected to fill these positions.
Commissioner Arcand asked if Commissioner Knauss and Commissioner Rosenquist will be informed
about this information.
Planner Juba stated that staff will be sure to share this information with them. She also said that there
will be an advertising for the open position, which should close around mid-August. City Council will
then hold interviews and recommend approval for a new Planning Commission member.
Adiournment
Commissioner Arcand made a motion, Commissioner McRoberts seconded, to adjourn at 9:03 p.m.
All Ayes. Motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted,
Rachel Leitz, Community Development Assistant