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"_ie meetinu rzas called to or6er at 7:05 2, T%
P __ City Council: .'?an .spit ger, Cit -.v Gle:o_f, Carol
Howard 'TTuu.sis-to
Ordinc.nce Corxaittee : T"Lu-L - -je, Bob ?Serth, Theodora.
Peltier, and dill T .1-U son (7:21 f'T•-)
Planni n.:; C0 " "issi on: Theodora�'eltiC'?', 'i' i7-ze ? CAl11Ster,
Dave : GOCl
E'?_t4 e, Vern ��'ellli n, e
?'��i'.�.
Gillen, and ':Lillian Greger.
r. ..., ".Mister had a problem with expanding of powers for the Planning
Comrlissior_.
Peloquin felt the proposed subdivision ordinance was too specific and
c�e�naxzding .
_'evietr of .;proposed subdivision ordinance, and the followi= g cor-rec"tions
;res°e :cla.de :
I.
2.
Chapter 20'0-5, Definitions, Page 2,
i7 -e Gillen. to ; u'arc=it definition.
Chaptcr 2'0-3, Definitions, page 3,
The _ct of subdivision in itself,
nuriber
nuruber
does not
14, Contour �'ap -
22, Development
necessarily constitute
develop) -,lent .
3.
Chapter
2N-3,
Defi cit=_ons,
page 4,
nunber
20,
T--ey T: p -
If the do
not use a term, lets
delete.
4.
Chapter
2`)(0-3,
De_cinitions ,
page 4,
rniLiber
2' —
'i'e �leaCiJ_nj7
should be
SOT.
5.
C'Zapte_
2^0-3,
Definitions,
pare 4,
number
30,
-.delete last
sentence
starting with - or
delineates.
6.
Chapter
2-00-3,
Definitio=iS,
1�age
ber
40 -
Orlit.
7.
Charter
290-3,
Definitions,
page 6,
number
4.6,
- B. Cul-de-sac -
should rc
d - :"i nor street
with only
one outlet
and havi-i a
tLzrn-around .
' uz.lber 4 , - G -Jog - :^� discontinuit in the alia-, rsient of a street
or roa.d,�ralT.
S. ap-'er290-3, Definitions, page 7, nu:i:ber 48 - add stub City
angineer will supply.
Chapter 290-3, Definitions, page 3, number 52, '_racing - insert
Reproducable.
10. Chapter 201C-4, Section 4 K.inimum Design Standards, page 1 ,
i1UJ•,1ber /.1-03-3 after more insert — or aily less s10 eS if
reouired bt City 1,'nwineer.
11. Chapter -4. Section 4 'iinir Lz7:1 Design Standards, Pa.gr-, 3,
nviaber 4.04-8 - after platted insert iml roved.
12. Chapter 2U0-�?., ;section 4 TAinizlurl vesign Standards, pace 4,
Street Desii;n, - Thoroughfare - Variable, should be changed
L
o - not less than 48 feet.
1 }. Chapte=r' 2 . —4-, Section 4 'Tinii.2u?::a Design Standards, page 5,
Street Design — should read - Intersection spaced less than
150' shall -lot be al-Lo,%ed.
14. Chapter 2 0-Oi-, Section 4 "i ni !air:1 Design Standards, page S,
;ar e_.lents,-zu:,;rer 412-1 - afte-r Trees shall be �J_-, c�
placed, ].assert —
.t le-st si'x Feet Set back require ?ent
JT -5 i 11 , 1 7
15. Chapter 290-4, Section 5 ''Ilnir-m" Design Standards, page 11,
lot .Requirements, nu;lber 415-11 , should read -
Lots vith lakeshore frontage s'iall be designed. st that tale lot
lines ecuended shall confalces{?ore a,,namement ordinances.
16. Chapter 290-5,
number 505-1 -
17. Chapter 290-5,
nu;--.aber 506-1 ,
13. Chapter 2-00-5,
50-0-1 - after
Vern 1eloquin departed at 8:50 Pi.r.
:]tgineering Standards, pae 15,
chane grouted to constructed.
1 'xigineering Standards, pafe 15,
- change elbow to fi ttin.E;.
n<rineering Standards, page 16,
1 3%4- inches, insert - Trees not
:Nater Supply,
House =i.PliL ;Ding,
'gees, number
survivinp- at
`0''IOT?: made by Mc. "llister, seconded. b -Y Greger, t at `' rticios
4-12-1 and 509-1 not be adopted in t1l.e proposed subdivision
o_�di =: it!_ t':Le exception of t'le 61 set bac?-_ requirement.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
Chapter 290-9. Prelir.,zinary Plan .?rocedure, page
Flan Requirements, 1 - Should read: Proof of olmershio as -re-
c;uired bT Citi Attorney .
Crap er 290-q-, Ire iriinary Plan Procedure, page 3, C- Preliminary
Plan Requirements, 3 - Charlie will deterr,l-inc footage.
Chapter 2'0-9, _!')relir?inary Plan Procedure, pa;e 3, C - Preliminary
Plan Requirements, number 6, - after surveyor insert - o -i. engineer
as a2Dro2riate .............
C'zapter 290-9, Preli-_unary Plan Procedure, page 5, C - Preliminary
Flan Requirements, nmiber 6, Q- after lot shown insert - at
least ......... __..
C. apter 2^0-100, Final Flat, pr. e 4, - D<ociaion - D7ojrard Truusist
will clarify decision.
Chapter 290-11, Special Cases - eliminate.
Chapter 290-12, Variances, number_ 1200.02, second line, insert
-off elimina v after at the tir: e the preli_ linar r ..............
Chapter 270-6, General Provisions, page 2, number 602-3,
':150.00 (change to) per lot fee to be Net by resolution of the
City Councilo
Alice ri lstrUp and Jean I,unclstrol were present at the z3eeting.
the meeting Adjourned at 10:32 PT".
Cr rot a. i.*liiiiams, vier
City of Hugo
VO'T117G F0': Greger, T7CAIli ster, Manson. 7oeltge, and
-eltier.
.G,`?IYST: "gin riznthe, Dan Spitzer, and T:?iTce Gil1e,Z.
'+bst8.in.ed: Bob Barth. r"OTIOT? C: RRIMD.
19.
Insert heading - 600 General Provisions.
20.
Chapter 20.0-6, General Provisions, pare 4, La. -Lid. Division,
number
606-1, - after by the city - insert a period. Insert a
capitol
P on Prior to the consideration ..............
21.
Chapter 290-6, General Provisions, page 5, Unapproved
Subdivisions
nvx;2ber 608-1. numbers 3 and 4 should read.-
ead:3.
3.'Jas a sez)arate parcel not less than 2 5 acres
in area
150 feet in width on January 1 10166.
4.. Is a sin^•le Parcel of an of not less than 5
acres
and '.laving- a width of not less than 300 f ect .
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
Chapter 290-9. Prelir.,zinary Plan .?rocedure, page
Flan Requirements, 1 - Should read: Proof of olmershio as -re-
c;uired bT Citi Attorney .
Crap er 290-q-, Ire iriinary Plan Procedure, page 3, C- Preliminary
Plan Requirements, 3 - Charlie will deterr,l-inc footage.
Chapter 2'0-9, _!')relir?inary Plan Procedure, pa;e 3, C - Preliminary
Plan Requirements, number 6, - after surveyor insert - o -i. engineer
as a2Dro2riate .............
C'zapter 290-9, Preli-_unary Plan Procedure, page 5, C - Preliminary
Flan Requirements, nmiber 6, Q- after lot shown insert - at
least ......... __..
C. apter 2^0-100, Final Flat, pr. e 4, - D<ociaion - D7ojrard Truusist
will clarify decision.
Chapter 290-11, Special Cases - eliminate.
Chapter 290-12, Variances, number_ 1200.02, second line, insert
-off elimina v after at the tir: e the preli_ linar r ..............
Chapter 270-6, General Provisions, page 2, number 602-3,
':150.00 (change to) per lot fee to be Net by resolution of the
City Councilo
Alice ri lstrUp and Jean I,unclstrol were present at the z3eeting.
the meeting Adjourned at 10:32 PT".
Cr rot a. i.*liiiiams, vier
City of Hugo
1 �1..'70 'UT.E�:S GP . T _?1n�..;
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l_an ovi_ch said there were a fear cc:ses heed ti?p—
gr LCIi12 ; Of t'1.ei2 Septic syste?"'?s. re ti., r S''tould be brou,,;ht u;J
to standar=ds. .`.re j•ra S als0 concerned ?''1ti1 -the -act than C.'t�:te _i_..,�rove ?El1`Vs
:-oul..d increase t' .ei r t
..evin 2arley asked Aow Ion,- it .%could to T, -e to pollute Dells. T'_u sisto
said that wells over V10' clo::rl �}.re enerally ;protected. I7o?reg:cr, c lee
the ground is poll -at -e6, it ca_2not be rer,aoved.
I`'aT2oney COY1CurreC -,-.,i-'h Tete 'Peterson, and felt that t'�.e l)eo;)le ::ere
1 t U'' s 'i.C;s:-ty dollar" . He thought they si"_ould be ---ore
goo concerned sri �n ��.�e .��__,_
co:cerncd the 1016ph triter talbe and problens in the :Future.
Ji,-.: Stevraat c uestioned
whydid 11
he 1,12 ve to pay
developY:ient would help
additional hoo?iubs.
about the develop e-nt of !.and east of 'Amropa , 2;2d
for sol =EOne else's benefit. LaV� ile said Cl t'a t future
Pay for his sy ,-,ter _ crit':. the possiblility of 30
Bill refuted, the cormne:tzts inade oy Peter -Peterson.
j?red Sor�1 want said that if 90 6f the people do not ant these improve—
ments, he 'iopeJ that the Council_ would listen to them.
T:'..1.'. Ji ., +retry said that the t hou.g,.t of t'.he ;7OSS1 bilit jr Of Sr1c^.ilei^ �_O"tS
sizes in the iu2deve7_oned areas bothered most of the people . = z ral_le said
that there were r.:lany taLin,;s "to be considered before land could be rezoned,
e.g., public hearings, soil_ tests, etc.
Paul Santori said that Oak Vlore Tars= property Otmers Z'!.ssociation had
restrictive covenant li:litiY2 lot sizes to one acre. 11ttorn.ey Johnson
said U restrictive covenants are v private arrant: ement. n11e�� ,70 ld
be binding wrong the property comer. s, but would bind the city.
Jimi T"eery thouC,,ht tha- t- there would be no need .for water improverient if
sever eras installed. T'uusisto stated that the longt
evity of i;:r
well
be increased Ath sewer. The well could last 20 years or longer.
reside -n' �.s'ced hoer a corner would be assessed. IaaValle said that a corner
lot aoul_d pa:' frontage plus 251 on the sij e . The property owner has the
option to ihoo"alp on either side.
T�aren Ce;xlson as' ed about the assess nents on unbuildable lots. T_aValle,
said that w1hat one person thinl.-s is unbuildable just co?.?1_d be buildable.
This coulcl be a neo - matter.
atter.
Ji ;z ametry as!' -ed about cul—de—sacs. ?,aValle said to take the front and back
and divide in half. "Mese are considered speciAl cases.
Dennis Garner asked what they t•rere to do with their present septic systens
and wells. laValle said that the procedure was to have the septic system
pimped and fill with sand. the property miners are permitted to keep
their ,wells.
resident asked hoer the 20 yeartterm assessor nt was determined. 'rr. �hle7's
stated that the bond rating affects the interest rate. The city could pay
a hii;Tler interest rate on the bond. Future projects also have to be
considered.
Anda Cami-ier a l:cd wihen the Council :could 3 ial.�e o. decision. ZaValle de-
errii�-ed t'hc ��e3rinG would be continued on _!`,u* ;vst 21 , 1975.
Joel CtC ngeland :felt that his septic systez:: aald well were quite adequate
viaien he purchased his hone, and did not thin'. the improvements viould
increase the value of his home.
Jin T7e try thought that thec cost figures for road irn;)rove -:1e-, is ,dere the
sane as given at the infol^�iatiomal- -.ieeting. .UUsisto stated that the
-previous figures wrere diJ: � erent and did not include bitu..ii�:lous streets
only upgrading.
i�ic1� ITilanovich quest- the n'tysical need and urgency of t:�.ese Llprove-
.1 nts. Spitzer said there=.ras no way -to determine this now;. The Council
is now getting this infoiTmation to make a decision.
Tynn Carlson stated the two ways to get -this project started: 1) petition
with �5;'' of -the frontage property -owners, and 2) majority of the City
Council (4 of 5). Jixn "eery did not thin'k there vias a. signed petition.
negardinu the natter of the bitw!iinous roads, a resident asIzed about
-uh:c.t wiould be determined if the property owners did not want the improve-
z_:ents. S'pi tzer stated that biturur�ous would be cheaper to maintain, a:zid
other considerations would have to be cor_sidercd.
!Xii ght Suss rind spore in I'i vor of the project stating that the jpeople
r.._oving into the area syzou_l_d be considered, and the cost is deductible.
resident said the people bought property there because of the open
space and :freedom in t'h.e are:., and could not afford to live -there viit_11
t -he improvements.
7L'_•).e public hearing recessed at 10;02 P1 , and ;dill be continued at the
Cit .ouncil neeting o .u,,�ust 21, 1978.
Carol A. ililliaris, Clerk
City of THI-ago