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CITY COUNCIL
LITTLE C1INADA, MINNESOTA
December 23, 1981
Pursuant to due call and not9ce thereof a regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Little Canada, Minnesota was held on the 23rd
day of December, 1981 in the Council Chambers of the City Center
located at 515 Little Canada Road in sa~d City.
Mayor, Mr. Raymond Nanson, called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
and the following were present at roll call:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Mr. Raymond Hanson
Councilman Mr. Michael Fahey
Councilman P1r. Dennis Forsberg
Councilwoman Mrs. Mugs Nardini
Councilwoman Mrs. 6everly Sca1ze
ALSO PRESENT: City Clerk Mr. Joseph Chlebeck
City Flttor~ney Mr. Clayton Parks
Consulting Engineer Mr. Donald Carley
Recording Secretary Mrs. Kathleen Glanzer
Approval Mrs. Nardini stated that the following amendments should be made to the
Of The December 9, 1981 Council meeting minutes: On page 10 of the minutes
Minutes the comments made about the Garske swail were made by P4r. Forsberg
rather than Mrs. Nardini and the comments about the stakes being removed
shou1d be stricken from the minutes; On page 20, paragraph 5, Mrs. Nardini
commented that three days per week were needed in order for the building
inspector to do a proper job; On page 22 of the minutes regarding the City
telephone, Mrs. Plardini was aware that there were two lines into the City
Center, but did not know the telephone number of the second line, also,
Mrs. Nardini asked the City Clerk to check into a Ca11 Waiting feature.
Mrs. Nardini introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-698 - APPROVING TNE MINUTE.S OF TFIE
DECEMBER 9, 1981 COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES WITH TFIE ABOVE
OUTLIf~IED AMENDMENTS
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze.
Ayes (5) Nardini, Scalze, Flanson, Fahey, Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Pages 476 and 477.
Mrs. Nardini pointed out that page 8, the fiirst paragraph of the December
16, 1981 Council workshop minutes should reflect that the City's plumbing
inspector's compensation was changed to a straight 80% of fees.
Mr. Forsberg questioned the use of the word "consensus" in the last two
paragraphs of the workshop minutes. Mrs. Sca1ze stated that the word
"consensus" means "majority".
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Public Mayor Hanson opened the pub1ic hearing on the Muel1er request for approval
Flearing of industrial revenue bonds. There was no one from the audience present
Industrial wishing to comment on the request.
Revenue
Bonds Mrs. Scalze stated that she would like to review the Mue1ler proposal before
Mueller the Council took action on the approval of the bonds. Mr. Fahey stated
Proposal that the Council could look at the plans as a part of the bond consideration.
Mr. Fahey introduced the fol1owing resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-699 - CLOSING THE PU6LIC FIEARING
ON THE MUELLER PROPOSAL FOR INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
Ayes (5) Fahey, Nardini, Hanson, Scalze> Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 477.
Mr. Fahey asked Mr. Mueller if he has complied with the City Planner's
recommendations regarding the proposal. Mr. Mueller replied that he just
received these recommendations. Mueller commented that most of these items
were discussed at the Planning Commission meeting.
The City Planner has recommended approval of the Mueller proposal subject
to six recommendations outlined in his report dated December 21, 1981.
These recommendations are:
1. Lots 19, 20, and 21 should be 1egally combined and recorded with
Ramsey County prior to issuance of a building permit;
2. Four additional parking spaces should be provided to meet the Ordinance
requirements;
3. The app'licant should submit written approval from the County Engineer
regarding the curb cuts on County Roacl B;
4. Extent and details of the landing pad and location of fuel tanks should
be included on the plan;
5. Utilities, grading and drainage should be subject to review and comment
by the City Engineer;
6. The helicopter landing facility shou1d be subject to approval by Minne-
sota Department of Transportation.
Mr. Fahey introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-700 - APPROVING THE INDUSTRIFlL REVENUE
BONDS FOR THE MUELLER PROPOSAL SU¢JECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH
TFIE CITY PLANNER'S SIX RECOMME~IDATIONS OUTLINED IN HIS REPORT
OF DF.CEMBER 21, 1981
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The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
qyes (4) Fahey, Nardini, Hanson, Sca7ze,
Nayes (lj Forsberg.
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolut9on appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Pages 477 and ~78.
Mr. Fahey commented that before the Council approves the Mueller plans
he would like to know their comments about the Planner's recommendations.
Mrs. Nardin5 asked Mr. Mueller if he had a definite time for construction
to begin. Mr. Mueller rep1ied that he did not, but they would 7ike to
be in the facitity by Spring. Mr. Mueller stated that he would be more
than happy to work with the Engineer on the drainage issue. Mueller also
commented that the helicopter landing pad is something for the future.
Mrs. Nardini asked if MN DOT had any objections to the helicopter landing
pad. Mr. Mueller replied that they did not and wondered why the company
had not done this years ago.
Mr. Forsberg commented that the reason he is opposed to this proposal is
6ecause of the helicopter landing pad. Forsberg felt this was a poor
location for it.
Mrs. Scalze commented that the City of Maplewood has not had time to review
this proposal.
Mr. Mueller informed the Council that the company has contracted with
Ramsey Nospital, Northwestern and the U of M for transporting patients.
The company does not answer accident calls. This is a specialized field
of patient transporting.
Mrs. Nardini stated that the company a1so transports technicians and
equipment that each hospital cannot afford to own.
Mrs. Scalze stated that she understood Mr. Forsberg's concerns about the
helicopter.
Mr. forsberg stated that he was concerned about the noise that would be
caused. Mr. Mueller replied that Ramsey Hospital has a helicopter pad
and there are alot of peop1e living in the area.
Mrs. Nardini stated that it was her understanding that the helicopter would
come in from the direction of the highway and this would take a lot of the
noise.
Mr. Fahey stated that he would like to have comments from the City Engineer
and City of Map7ewood on this before he takes action.
Mr. Fahey asked the Engineer if he could give an opinion on the drainage
issue by the next Council meeting. The Engineer replied ~that he cou1d.
Fahey instructed the C1erk to request comment from the City of Maplewood
by the January 13, 1982 Council meeting. The Clerk stated that Maplewood
was only concerned with noise from sirens, but he will get a written
comment from Maplewood on the proposal.
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P4rs. Scalze introduced the following reso1ution and moved its a~option:
RESOLUTION N0. H1-12-701 - TABLING FlCTION ON THE MUELLER PROPOSAL. UNTIL THE
JANUARY 13, 1982 COUNCIL MEETING FlT WHICH TIME THE COUNCIL WILL FIAVE
A REPORT FROM THE ENGINEER REGARDTNG THE DRAINAGE FlND A WRITTEN REPORT
FROM THE CITY OF MAPLEWOOD REGARDING FIOW THE PROPOSAL WILL FIT IN1'0
THEIR PLAN
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
qyes (5) Scalze, Nardini, Hanson, Forsberg, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Qook No. 7, Page 478.
Recreation Mr. Pobert Voto, the City's auditor, appearetl before the Council on the
Travel question of travel pay for Recreation directors. Mr. Voto informed the
Time Council that the City can pay a travel allowance to the Recreation
directors, but this money is includable in the employee's W-2 form in
almost all cases. Mr. Voto stated that if the City does not want to
include this money on the W-2 form, the travel allowance must be
reimbursement of actual expenses with detail provided by the employee
and/or reimbursement of so much per mile.
Mrs. Scalze asked if the City could inc1ude this allowance as part of the
salary. Mr. Voto replied that the City cloes not need to have a policy
for reimbursement of auto expenses.
Mrs. Scalze asked why the County can do what they are doing in this area.
Mr. Voto replied that the Federal government very rare1y checks on State
or local governments.
Mr. Fahey stated that he felt the City should have more accountability
from the directors as to the number of hours they are spending on the
job and mileage expenses. Fahey stated that $6,000 does not seem too
much to be paying for the director's salary, but he does not know the
number of hours the director is spending on the job.
Mr. Forsberg agreed that there should be some documentation.
Mrs. Scalze commented that that wou1d be difficult to do because of the
nature of the job. Mr. Forsberg canmented that the Planner, the Engineer,
the Attorney are able to keep track ofi the time they spend on City matters,
it should be possible for these people to do the same thing.
Mrs. Scalze commented that time documentation is a different issue, and
the Council is currently dealing with travel pay.
Mr. Fahey stated that he is willing to go along with the salary proposed
for 19II2, but would like documentation of time.
Mrs. Scalze stated that this should probably be thought about for awhi1e
and brouyht up at the next Council meeting. Scalze stated that she woulcl
have the Recreation directors at the next meetiny.
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Mr. Voto again stated that the City is obligated to include the travel
reimbursement currently given the Recreation directors on their W-2
forms. Mr. Hanson stated that the City can include it on the form, but
does not have to withhold from it.
The Clerk stated that he would put this item on the agenda for the January
13 meeting.
Transfer Of Mr. Terry Maglich of MGM Liquors appeared before the Council requesting
Liquor the transfer to MGM of the Little Canada Liquors off-sale intoxicating
License liquor license.
MGM
The City Clerk reported that the police report on the MGM principals
checked out.
Mr. Maglich informed the Council that some time in the near future MGM
will be coming in with a proposal to move from their present location
on Rice Street to the area on Rice Street in front of Cub. P4r. Mag7ich
stated that they have a two year lease in their present location, but
they will honor the lease.
P1r. Fahey stated that any relocation would have to comp7y with the City's
ordinance. Mrs. Scalze stated that there are two schools in the vicinity
of the proposed location and Mr. Maglich should be aware of the location
of these property lines.
P~r. Maglich stated that they would conform with the ordinance. Maglich
also stated that they would not be the owner of the building, but would
just be a tenant in any new building.
Mr. Hanson introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-702 - APPROVING THE TRANSFER OF THE
OFF-SALE INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE FRaN LITTLE CFlNADFl
LIQUORS TO MGM
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
Ayes (5) Hanson, Nardini, Fahey, Scalze, Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Reso1ution Book No. 7, Page 479.
Granada The City Clerk reported that there are still 4 easements missing from 'the
Homes on~Granada Homes was to get for the City. The Attorney stated that he
had one of these easements. Granada Homes submitted another of the missing
easements. They also stated that a third easement Hioutd be mai1ed shortly.
The City Clerk pointed out to the Council that the property is registered
and it will be necessary to obtain the certificates of title on each
property in order to register the easements.
Granada Homes asked if the easements could just be kept on file in the
City.
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7he Flttorney stated that the easement wou1d be good whether it was filed
or not, however, the purpose of recording it would be so that other people
would know about the easement, for example, a new buyer. The Attorney
stated he woulc( not recommend not recording the easements.
Granada Flomes stated that the missing easement is for the Mills property
and they do not want to sign the easement, because they are afraid someone
could come in and take the trees in the easement area.
Mr. Fahey suggested that perhaps the Building Inspector could work with
the City Flttorney in picking up the certificates of title needed.
The Engineer stated that the City should give the property owners a receipt
for their certificate of title and be sure to return these to the property
owners. Mr. Carley stated that these were very valuable pieces of paper.
Mr. Fahey informed Granada Homes that the City would refund their money
when the last easement is received. Mr. Forsberg stated that he did not
feel the fees for filing the easements should come from the Granada Flomes
letter of credit. Mr. Fahey agreed stating that the City should pay these
fees.
Mr. Forsberg did not feel the people would turn over their certificates of
title.
Mrs. Nardini suggested that perhaps the Flttorney could redraw the easement
for the Mills' so that trees could not be removed -From the easement area.
Mr. Chlebeck reported that to date the total expenses to be charged against
the letter of credit are $2,753. Granada Homes was concerned that they
were paying f or some of the work that shou7d be charged to Mr. Garske.
The C1erk stated that he would check this out.
The Attorney suggested that someone in the City should write the property
owners involved and 9nform them that in order for their title to be good
the easement must be recorded. The Flttorney felt that if the situation
were explained properly, the City would get the cooperation necessary.
Mr. forsberg pointed out that many property owners may not have their
certificate of title, that a bank or mortgage company may be holding it.
The Attorney stated that the City could make arrangements to get these.
Granada Flomes questioned the high amount of fees they were being charged
for Flttorney and Engineer services. The Clerk stated that there are about
$2,100 in Engineer fees and about $650 in Attorney fees. The Flttorney
informed Granada Flomes that he did not bi11 for about ~400 of his time.
Granada Homes commented that they applied for their bui1ding permits
in July and did not get the permits until a later date. During that time
the fees were raised. Granada Nomes felt they shou1d not have to pay this
increase.
Mrs. Scalze agreed that it would not be fair if the City held up their
permits.
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Mr. Fahey suggested that the City Clerk determine what the credit would
be in this area.
Fahey asked why the engineering fees were so high. The Engineer replied
tPiat he had to survey the whole property. The Engineer also stated that
there is some of his time that is not included in the bi11. The Engineer
also stated that Garske has about 10% of the area and should pick up that
portion of the cost.
The Engineer also stated that according to his firm, there has been no
progress on the swail on the Garske property. Forsberg commented that
after the property was staked a small machine was in the Garske property,
Mr. forsberg felt that at this point nothing more could be done until
spring.
Mr. Hanson introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
kESOLUTION N0. 87-12.-703 - AUTHORIZING THE RELEASE OF
GRANADA HOMES' LETTER OF CREDIT LESS ANY ATTORNEY AND
ENGINEERING FEES SUBJECT TO GE77IPJG 1'FIE OUTSTANDING
EFlSEMENTS
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Forsberg.
F{yes (5) Flanson, Forsberg, Scalze, Nardini, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution 6ook No. 7, Page 479.
Deferred The Attorney previously submitted to the Council a model ordinance for
Flssessment dealing with senior cit9zen deferrments.
Ordinance
Mrs. Scalze stated that after reviewing the proposed ordinance she feels
the first version submitted by the Attorney would be the way to hand7e it.
Mr. Fahey stated that he agreed. Fahey stated thai: he a~ould like the
five year renewal provision shnrtened to perhaps 3 years. Fahey stated
that it would be possible for a senior citizen's income to suddenly go
up and they would no longer be eligible for the deferrment.
Sca7ze stated that she would not want to go through the renewal process
sooner than 5 years.
The Flttorney stated that almost every other City has a 5 year renewal
provision. The Attorney stated that new applications would also be
coming in on a regular basis, and a less than 5 year provision may cause
problems.
The City Clerk pointed out that this would not only effect new improvement
assessments, but also old assessments.
Fahey asked if the people previously granted a senior citizen deferrment
would have to come in imanediately to reapply, or would they fall under
the renewal provision. Scalze asked if these people would be grandfathered
in. Mr. Forsberg felt these deferrments should 6e reviewed the next time
the City is reviewing deferrments.
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Mr. Fahey suggested that perhaps the City should write a letter to all
those people who presently have a senior citizen deferrment and inform
them of the new ordinance.
The Flttorney stated that the City cannot make someone pay for past
deferrments, that the City cannot back up on these. However, the Attorney
suggested that the present senior citizen deferrments be reviewed immediate7y.
The City Clerk stated that there are presently about 20 senior citizen
deferrments.
The Attorney stated that the present deferrments can be sent a copy of the
ordinance and tolcl they must reapply for their deferrment. The Flttorney
felt most of them would qualify under the new or~inance.
Mr. Fahey pointed out that the ordinance is based on annual income
regardless of savings. Fahey questioned if it was fair to other taxpayers
to grant a deferrment to someone who might have ~150,000 in the bank.
Mrs. Scalze co~nented that the City would have no way to find out what
people's assets are.
The Attorney stated that in many cases a senior citizen might not fi1e
a tax return, and if this were the case the senior should come in with
an af•fidavit of stated annua1 income in order for the Counci1 to determine
if there is a hardship.
Fahey suggested that the ordinance have a provision that applies it to a11
existing and future deferrments. The Attorney agreed and suggested that
he add an a~ditional section to handle this.
Mr. Forsbery asked if the Council could leave the exist~ng deferrmen~s as
is. The Attorney replied that the City could not as they could be
charged with discrimination.
Occupancy The Attorney submittecl to the Council a new ordinance dealing with occupancy
Permits permits. The permits would be issued after a satisfactory inspection of
the building and landscaping. The ordinance also provides for the Council
the discretion of waiving the permit when sp~cial conditions exist which
would otherwise result in a hardship.
Mr. Fianson stated that this would provide for 1andscaping that could not
be done in the wintertime.
Mrs. Nardini stated that the City wi71 be adding a$10 fee at the time of
permit app1ication to cover the occupancy perm~t.
Hanson suggested that when new permit forms are ordered they provide for the
occupancy permit.
Mr. Fahey introduced the following ordinance and moved its adoption:
ORDINANCE N0. 179 - aN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 924.010 OF THE
PAGE 8 LITTLE CANADA MUNICIPAL CODE BY ALLOWING FOR
COUNCIL DISCRCTION IN WAIVING REQUIREMENT OF
OCCUPANCY PERMIT~ AND SLCTION 924.020 TO INCLUDE
LANDSCAPING APPROVAL FOR OCCUPANCY PERMIT ISSUANCE.
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The forego~ng ordinance was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze.
Ayes (5) Fahey, Scalze, Hanson, Nardini, Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Ordinance declared adopted.
North The Attorney read to the Council the agreement he ~rew up between the
Star City and the North Star Mobile Home Park with regard to the second entrance
Mobi1e at the park. The Flttorney suggested that Mrs. Breeding be given a copy of
Home this agreement.
Court
Mr. Fahey questioned what H~ould happen if P4rs. 6reeding refused to be
relocated to another spot in the park. The Flttorney stated that Mrs.
Breeding received her notice from the park, and the park has the power
to remove or relocate anyone with 90 days notice for improvements that
are being made to the park.
Fahey suggested that the agreement say that Mrs. Breeding should be offered
the firs~t available lot in the park. Fahey stated that Husnick could make
the first lot in the park available, but Mrs. Breeding could refuse to move
to it. Fahey suggested that the fol1owing wording be added, "when her
home has been relocated or has been otherwise removed from the park".
Mr. Parks agreed that this was a good point and stated that he would add
this to the agreement. Parks will then submit the agreement to P4r. Husnick
for signature and then to the Playor and City Clerk for their signatures.
Kelbe Mr. Parks stated that Mr. Kelbe signed a revised agreement and that agreement
Agreement has been given to the City Clerk.
State Mrs. Nardini asked the Nttorney how the research is progressing on the
Overflow possibi7ity of charging the State on the overflow situation.
Charges
The Attorney replied that he is working on it and it looks like the City
will be able to charge the State. The Attorney commented that he has no
final answers as yet and the process may be a very involved one<
Don P4r. Don Gagne appeared before the Council asking to speak to the Council
Gagne on the events that lead up to litigation that is pending between the City
and himself.
Mr. Gagne stated that he has been served two citations from the City and
that he has p1eaded not guilty to these. Gagne informed the Council that
he has 1istened to the tapes of the various meetings at which this situation
was discusseda~d in these tapes he heard that he was not agreeable ~o coming
do~un to the Council and discussing the situation. He also heard discuss~on
about how his case and the DeBace matter should be han~led the same.
Mr. Gagne stated that he did not feel the City's case would stand up in
court and fe1t it would be an embarrassment to both he and the City to
go to court on the matter.
Mr. Fahey asked Mr. Gagne what he is willing to do about the situation.
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Mr. Gagne rep1ied that he has done all he is willing to do. Gagne stated
that he tried to build a building without a building permit because of the
taxes. It was not to avoid the permit fee, which is $15. Gagne stated
that he got caught and then he applied for a permit. Fie was then informed
by the Clerk that he must submit a diagram of the bui1ding. Fl family
emergency came up and it took a few days before Gagne got the ~-~a~r~~in to
the City. Then Mr. Gagne stated that he was informed he needed a special
use permit for the bui1ding. Mr. Gagne stated that he has 5 acres of property
and felt he was not interfering with anyone and, therefore, would not get
a special use permit. Mr. Gagne informed the Council he then reviewed the
City's Zoning Ordinance and was more convinced that he did not need a specia1
use permit.
Mr. Gagne commented that the tapes reflected that the Bui1ding Inspector
red-tagged his property. Gayne stated that this was never done. He did
receive one letter from the Building Inspector on the matter.
Gagne commented that on the tapes it reflected that he was to be invited to
come down to ta1k to the Council. Mr. Gagne read a 1etter from the City
Clerk. Gagne pointed out that the letter did not invite him to a Council
meeting. Mr. Gagne also stated that he has been traveling a great deal and
had not kept up with the minutes of the Council meetings and did not rea1ize
how far the situation had developed.
Mr. Gagne also commented that a11 of a sudden the Council decided that Mr.
DeBace d~id not need a special use permit and he, Gagne, was being taken
to court. P~r. Gagne commented that he did not feel this was equal treatment.
Mr. Fahey stated that he would like to have a closed door meeting fo7lowing
the Council meeting to discuss this matter. Fahey asked Gagne if he were
willing to pay the permit fee, but fe1t he did not need a special use permit.
Gagne stated he would pay whatever Mr. DeBace paid. Gagne also felt the
City should drop the case.
Mr. Forsberg stated that the Council disagreed on how they viewed the DeB1ce
matter and the Gagne matter. Mr. Forsberg stated that he did not feel they
were the same.
Mr. Fahey stated that he believed the two cases should be treated differently.
Mr. Fahey commen~ed that the Council said they would listen to Mr. Gagne's
comments and discuss the situation in a closed session. Fahey stated that
the Counci7 might be ab1e to get back to Mr. Gagne after the closed session.
Mr. Gagne commented that he heard comments that he was building on an easement.
Mr. Gagne said that this is not true. Gagne commented that when the property
was rezoned he agreed that he would not build his house on the 60 feet,
but he did not say he would not put anything else on it. Gagne stated that
if the City wants an easement on this property they should condemn it.
Gagne stated that he is paying taxes on the property and he will put whatever
he wants to on it. Mr. Gagne also commented that the property is not buildable
as you cannot get sewer ~ it, and therefore there is no reason for an
easement on the property.
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Mr. Fahey stated that in May of 1980 when the property was rezoned, the
Council stated that no structure should be built within 60 feet. Fahey
asked if Gagne would be uiilling to a stipulation in his abstract that the
property could not be further developed beyond the point it is currently
used so long as the structure is within that area. Mr. Gagne was not
agreeable to this.
Mr. Forsberg commented that the comment that the property is unbuildable
because of sewer is not true. The Fngineer agreed that it would be
possible to hook into Metro's interceptor line, although Metro Sewer might
not like this.
Mr. Forsberg commented that the property where Mr. Gagne built the structure
is no longer farmland as Nir. Gagne had the property rezoned to R-1.
Gagne commented that there is no farmland in Ramsey County. Mr. Forsberg
commented that the principle use of some other property in the City is
agricultural.
Mr. Gagne atso questioned the need for a 60 foot road in this area and
pointed out that the City currently changed its requirement to 50 feet.
Gagne pointed out that the topography of the area was such that a great
deal of fill would have to be brought in and a manhole would have to be
covered up. Gagne felt that the Planner's recommendations about this
60 foot road were unreal9stic.
Mr. Forsberg stated that Mr. Gagne should have come in two months ago to
discuss the situation with the Council. Gagne pointed out that someone
could have invited him to a Council meeting to discuss it.
The Council thanked Mr. Gagne for his comments and said they would discuss
the situation in a closed-door session following the meeting.
City The City Attorney informed the Council that the Clerk of Courts would lil<e
Attorney to know who will be doing the City's prosecution work so that he can set
up his court calendar.
Mr. Fahey stated that if there is a change in the Attorney position it
could probab1y not take effect until February, Fahey felt the present
City Attorney should be retained through January 31 for prosecu~ion work
Mrs. Scalze introduced the fol1owing resolution and moved its acfoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-704 - DECLARING THAT THE CITY CONTINUE WITH
THE PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY FOR ALL WORK PENDINf THROUGIi JFlNUARY
31, 1982 AND CONTINUE ANY AND ALL PROSECUTIOM WORK WITH TFIE
PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY TFiROUGH JANUARY 31, 1982
The foregoing resolution was duly seconde~ by Mr. Hanson.
Ayes (5) Scalze, Hanson, Forsberg, Fahey, Nardini.
Nayes (0).
~~solution dec7ared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 4II0.
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Iughes The City Clerk reported that the City did receive a revised landscape
Construction plan on the Hughes proposal.
Soo Line The Engineer submitted to the Council £or approval a Soo Line Railroad
Railroad agreement which authorizes the City to lnstall the watermain on County
Agreement Road &.2 under the Soo Line tracks.
Mr. Hanson introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTIOIV N0. 81-12-705 - AYPROVING THE S00 LINE HAILROAD
AGREEMENi' AND AUTHORI2ING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLLRK TO SIGN
Y'HE AGREEMENT
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze,
Ayes (5) Hanson~ Scalze, Forsberg, Fahey, Nardini.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
1'niy s•esolution appears in $esolution Book No. 7, Yage l~80.
Water Works The Engineer submitted to the Council a Water 6Jorks Crossing Agreement
Crossing authorizing the City to cross Water Works property on South Owasso with
Agreement storm sewer.
Mr. Forsberg introduced the following resolution and moved its adoptlon:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-706 - APYHOVING THE WATER WORKS
C 0 G G UTHOk?IZTNG THE CITY CLENK AND
NUIYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini,
Ayes (5) Forsberg, Nardini, Hanson, Scalze, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Yage 481.
Ryan The City Engineer pointed out that the Ryan property will not be assessed
Assessment for 9 months, The Engineer stated that Mr, Ryan presently has a building
Agreement on three of the four lots he owns and suggested that i£ there is not a
building on the fourth 1ot by the time the assessments will be levied~
then the assessments can be levied against the three lots with buildings.
Mr. Forsberg asked if the Kyan Assessment Agreement provided for equal
assessments on each oF the properties.
Mr, Fahey suggested that the agreement be redrawn so as to state the
assessments will only be levied against the property with a building on
it. Mrs. Nardini agreed that she would not like to see any assessments
against the lot without a bui:i.ding on it,
Mr. Forsberg stated that he would be satisfied with four equal assessments.
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l~rs. Nardini introduced the followir~ resolution and moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION N0. 81..12.,~07 - AMENDING THE RYAN ASSESSMENT
AGRE~MEN'P BE ADDING THE WORD ~~EQUALLY~~ AFTER THE WORD
~~LEVIED~~ IN THE THIRD PARAURAPH OF THA`P AGREEMENT AND
REt~UESTING M$, RyAN TO TNITIAI, THAT AMENDMENT
The f'oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze,
Ayes (5) Nardini, 8calze, Nanson, Fahey, Forsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7~ Page Lt81.
Assessment The City Clerk reported that the reapportionment for Division No. 0$7122
Reapportion- was recently approved by the Council, however, due to an error on the part
ment Div, No. o£ the County, it must be reapproved.
05'7122
Mr. hanson introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
ItE50LUTI0N N0, 81-12-708 - APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT
' PORT ON N OR DIV SIUN N0. 057122
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalae.
Ayes (5) Hanson~ Scalze, Forsberg, Fahey, Nardini.
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Yage 482,
State Aid The F,ngineer submitted to the Council State aid plans £or Country Drive,
Approval The Engineer asked for Council approval o£ these plans,
Country Drive
i~irs. Nardini introduced the £olJ.owing resolution and moved its adoption:
RE50LUTION N0. 81_12»709 -APPROVING PLANS FOR COUNTHX
DRIVE IDENTIFIF,D S S, ,P, 200 101-02
The £oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Scalze.
Ayes (5) Nardani~ Scalze~ Aanson, Forsberg, Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 482,
City Mrs. Nardini asked the ~ngineer i£ he has determined how much highway property
Highway & and Water Worics property there is in the City, 'Phe En xneer stated that he
Water Works g
has not yet looked up this in£ormation.
Property
Sewer In Mrs. Nardini asked the status o£ the situation on Keller Parkway. The
Maplewood Engineer replied that he has notified the City of Maplewood about the
water ~roblern in this area. The Engineer stated that it is Maplewood~s
problem and they will take care of it.
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DeSoto The Enga.neer reported that the City still has allocation for 9/10~s
State Aid o£ a mile of 5tate aid road. The Engineer is recommending DeSoto
~ad for this, rhe Engineer also stated that just because the City makes
this designation does not mean the road will be built. Once the
designation is made~ the City can collect the State sid.
The City Clerk stated that the State aid money goes to the City~s State
aid roads. The allocation for a certain road can be used on another
road.
Mrs. Scal.ze introduced the £ollowing resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-710 - D~SIGNATING DESOTO STREET AS
A STATE AID ROAD ACCORDING TO THE PLANS SUBMITTED BY THE
CITY ENGSNEER
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr, Fahey,
Ayes (5) Scal.ze, Fahey, Hanson, Forsberg, Nardini.
Nayes (O).
Resolution declared adopted,
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 483.
Machin The Engineer reported that he has completed a survey of the Machin property
Propexty which he will give to the City Clerk, The Engineer suggested that the
Clerk send a copy of the survey to Nir. Machin.
Building Mr, Fahey reported that Mr, Edward Locke has agreed to take the fiuilding
Inspector Inspector position £or the City. Mr, Locke will work three days per
weex, eight hours each day. Fahey also reported that Mr. Locke offered
to do the plumbing inspections during the same working hours at the salary
ofi'ered by the City.
Mrs. Nardini informed the Council that the City~s plumbing inspector has
agreed to go with compensation o£ 80~ of the fees collected,
Fal'ney reported that the Building Inspectox will receive $1,000 pex month
plus hospitalization to a maximum o£ ~115 per month.
Forsberg commented that he ti~ow,dn~t care for one person doing a11 of the City~s
inspections.
Fahey reported that Mr, Locke believes the City needs a fu:tl-time inspector
based on the City~s valuaiion. Fahey stated that he stands to be convinced
o£ tha.s. Fahey informed Council that Mr. Lock'~position will be reviewed
after six months. Fahey also stated that Locke is looking for a fu11-time
position. Locke wil7, be documenting his time. Fahey stated that if the
position does not develop into £ull-time Locke may leave the City and go
somewhere else. Fahey stated that he was in £avor of giving P4r. Locke the
plumbing inspections as this would save the City 80% of the fees that will
be paid to the City~s current plumbing inspector.
Mrs. Scalze stated that she feels the $1,000 per month for the Building
TnspecCor is high and questioned the necessity of paying insurance coverage
for i;he inspector. Mr. Forsberg stated that he thought the $1,000 per month
in~yuded any benefits that would be paid.
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Mr. Fahey reported that the $1~U00 plus hospitalization comes out to
about what NTr. Locke is making per hour at the C~.ty o£ White Bear.
Fahey stated that he thought the City should extend the insurance
coverage in order to make the job more attractive.
k'orsberg commented that he was thinking about $15,000 per year for 20
hours per week, but that it basically comes to about the same thing.
F'ahey stated that it amourtted to about $13~200 per year.
Mrs. 5calze commented that i£ the Building Inspector wants to make the
~ob a full-time one~ he will find a way to do it.
Fahey asked what the Council wanted to do about the plumbing inspections,
Mr. Forsberg suggested that the plumbing inspections rema.in as is fpr the
first six months and the Council could make that decision at a later date.
Foxsberg convnented that the Council should not be changing personnel
all the time. Forsberg stated that the City~s plumbing inspector is
doing a good job~ and the Council does not xnow much ~bout Mr, Locxe,
Mrs. Nardini commented that when the plumbing inspector is appointed
for the year of 1982 there is no provision for a review in six months.
Scalze stated that she was not in £avor of getting rid of the other
inspectors just because Mr, Locke wants it.
k'ahey agreed to have the Building Inspector concentrate on building
inspections. Fahey instructed the Clerk to send a letter to the other
applicants for the position thankir~ them £or their interest.
Fahey informed the Council that Mr. Locke will report £or work on January
1~, ~982.
Mr, Hanson introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81..12-'711 » APYROVING MR. EDWARD LOCRE AS
TAE CITY BUILDING INSPECTOR
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Forsberg.
Ayes E5) Hanson, Forsberg, Fahey, Nardini, Scalze,
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. ?, Page 1t83.
Planning The City C1erk reported that the terms o£ Roy French, Peter Costa and
~ommission James Steele are up on December 31~ 1981 on the Planning Commission.
Appointments
Mr. Forsberg asked if these individuals applied for reappointxnent.
The Clerk reported that in the past the Council has asked them i£ they
wanted to be reappointed.
i~ir. Fahey suggested that the Council should advertise these vacancies.
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Mr, Fahey introduced the £ollowing resolution and moved its adoption:
R~SOLUTION N0. 81-12-712 - TABLING APPUTNTMENTS TO TAE
PT~A ING COMMISSION UNTIL THE JANUARY 27, 1982 COUNCIL
MEETING AND EXTENDING THE TERMS OF ROY FRENCA~ PETER
COSTA AND JAMES STEELE ON THE PLANNINU COMMISSION UNTIL
JANUARY 27, 1982 PENDING ANY FURTAER APPOINTMENTS
The £oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini.
Ayes (5) Fahey, Nardini~ Hanson, Forsberg, Scalze.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 1t84.
k'ahey asked the Council~s feelings on if the positions should be advertised.
Scalae commented that the incumbents were always reappointed automatically
and, therefore, did not realize that they had to reapply £or the position.
The City Clerk commented that it has been City policy to advertise any
vacancies.
Fahey commented that the League of Women Voters has sent the City a
letter on this,
The Clerk stated that he will advertise the positions.
Phalen Mrs. Nardini reported that she attended a meeting on the Phalen overflow
Over£].ow situat9.on. Nardini asked the Council i£ they felt that the City should
enter into an agreement to participate in these meetings. Nardini stated
that it will cost the City some money.
Hanson suggested that the City discuss this when it has more information on
it,
Rezoning Mrs. Scalze informed the Council that she attended a meeting in Maplewood
In for the proposed rezoning to residential estates of some property located
Maplewood on Beasn Avenue and 1~1, The rezoning had been inatiated by the Council,
Uut £ailed for lack of votes.
Scalze commented that after the rezoning was dez~ied a preliminary plat
on the property was presented to the Council. The plat proposed 80 homes
on a 40 acre 'site. Scalze stated that she informed the Maplewood Council
that drainage was a concern.
Scalze commented that Maplewood is going to let t~~e developer develop
13 homes. There is no water in this area,
Scalze commented that Roger Runyon is concerned that his property will be
~~ndlocked by this development, However, Maplewood does not want any
boundary line roads and £ee]s that Little Canada should handle the Rur~yon
property. Scalze commented that the City may need a proposed street plan
in this area,
Fah~y suggested that the Council wait and see what kxappens in the area.
5calze commented that she wanted to keep the Gouncil informed on this issue.
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Park Mrs. Sca7.ze reported that the terms of Lois Runyon~ Carl Spooner arXl
Commission Bill Sanders all expire as of December 3~~ 1981 on the Park Commission.
Appointments Scalze stated that all three have attended 11 out o f the 12 meetings
that the Commission held. Scalze a1.so stated that she was not in favor
of advertising these positions,
Hanson agreed that the positions should not be advertised due to the lack
of interest the Council has had in the past when trying to fill Park
Connnission vacancies.
Scalze reported that all three have reappliea zor the position and £elt
that a11 three have done an excellent job for the City.
Mrs. Scalze introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 81-12-713 - REAPPOTNTING LOIS RUNYON~ CARL
SP00 D B LL S NDERS TO THE PARK COMMISSION
The foregoing resolution was dul.y seconded by Mr. Hanson.
Ayes (5) Scalze, Hanson~ Nardini~ Forsberg~ Fahey.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7~ Page 1t81t.
Unimproved rir, k'orsberg was concerned about tne City~s issuing building permits
Streets on unimproved streets. A'orsberg was concerned about this because of
the difficulty to get fire trucks to these homes should the need ever
arise.
Fahey stated that the Council has allowed this with tne condition that
the person be deemed in favor of the street.
Forsberg felt that a house should not be bua:lt on an unimproved street
until the base is in and the road is graded and it is usable. Fahey
commented that he would go along with that.
Mrs. Nardini stated that she would research the City Code and see what
it says.
City Fahey stated that he proposes a January 6 workshop session at which
Attorney City Attorney applicants wi11 be interviewed. k'ahey stated that he has
Position narrowed the applicants down to three, These are: Sweeny-O~Connor &
Leriay, Grannis-Grannis-Campbell & Farrell and Moore-Coste7.lo & Hart.
Faney stated that the Clerk has checked on these firms and a11 received
excellent recommendati~ons from the other cities they rep~~gent.
F'ahey stated that these are the three he recommends and he eliminated
the other firms for one reason or another. Fahey also stated that he
does not know any of the attorneys in these £irms.
Fahey stated that some o£ the reasons he eliminated other £irms was that
they did not want to represent the City £or both civil and prosecution
woric, or they did not have municipal experience. Also one firm reprsents
Maplewood and Fahey £elt conflict of interest situations could develop.
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Councilpersons Nardini and Scalze £elt that there may be additional
applicarrts to the ones N1r. Fahey mentioned that should be considered.
Nir. Forsberg stated that he recoimnends Clayton Parks for the City
Attorney position,
Mr. Hanson introduced the fo:llowing resolution and moved its adoption:
HESUliUTION N0. 81-12-714 - REJECTING ALL APPLICANTS FOR
THE CITY ATTORNEY POSITION Wt'PH THE EXCLPTION OF TH~
APYLICATION SUBMITTED BY CLAYTON PARKS
The £oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Forsberg,
Ayes (2) Hanson, I'orsberg.
Nayes (3) Nardini, Fahey, Scalze.
Resolution denied.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7~ Page 1~85.
Mr. Hanson stated that it looks as though the Council has no intentions
of interviewing the present City Attorney. Mr, Fahey replied that he
saw no point in interviewing the present City Attorney as all the
Councilmembers know NIr. Parks and the work he has done.
Mr. Fahey suggested that if the other Cowacilpersons have firms that
they would lik~ interviewed on January 6th, they shou].d let him know
before the 30th o£ December and he will write a letter to them inviting
them in £or an interview,
i~ir. Hanson informed the Council that at the January bth workshop session
he would 'like to review some of the charges the Planner is submitting
to the City.
Mrs. Scalze commented that she feels there is no problem with the Council
asking questions from time to time,
Mrs. Scalze antroduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
ftE:SOLUTiON N0. S1-12-715 .. p~CLARING THAT THr, CITY COUIVCIL
W'tLL INTERVIEW TH~ FIRMS OF SWEENY-O~CONNOR & LE MAY,
GRANNIS-GRANNIS-CAMPBELL & FARRELL ANll MOORE-COS'PELLO & HART
AT A WORKSHOP SESSION ON JANUARY 6~ 1982 AND IF COUNCI]~MEMBERS
CONIE UP WITH ANY AllDITIONAL FTRNLS THEY WISH TO BL; INTEI~VIEWED~
MR. FAHEY SHOULD F3E NOTIFIED BY DECEMBER 30, 1981 SO THAT THI;SE
FIHMS CAN BE NOTIFIED TO ATTEND THE JANUAHY 6, 1982 WORKSHOP
SESSION
The foregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. Nardini,
Ayes (5) Scalze, Nardini~ 1~'ahey~ Forsberg, Hanson.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 485.
Fahey commented that it may be possible to a~,point the City Attorney
position at the January Council meeting for civil work and a£ter February
for cximinal work.
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Approving Mr. F'ahey introduced the £ollowing resolution and moved its adoption:
Vouchers
RI:SOLUTION N0. 81-12..716 - APPROVTNG THE VOUCHERS
The £oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mrs. 5calze.
Ayes (5) Fahey, Scalze, Hanson~ Nardini, Fozsberg.
Nayes (0).
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 1~86.
Iona Lane Mayor Hanson reported that he received a call about a rat problem on Iona
Lane. Aanson stated that he has informed the Health Inspector of this.
City Mr. Forsberg asked the Council to think about the 1982 appointntent for
Newspaper legal newspaper. NIr, F'orsberg asked that the Hoseville Review come in
with a presentation in this respect.
Adjourn Mrs.Nardini introduced the following resolution and rnoved its adoption;
RESOLU`PION N0. 41-12-717 - ADJOUNNING
`i'he £oregoing resolution was duly seconded by Mr. Hanson.
Ayes (5) Nardini, Hanson, Scalze, Forsberg, Fahey.
Nayes (0),
Resolution declared adopted.
This resolution appears in Resolution Book No. 7, Page 1~8G.
`there being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:36 P.M.
Respect£ully subraitted,
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