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Home My WebLink About03-08-89 Council Workshop MinutesMINt1TE5 OF THE t•JORKSHUP MEETI~IIi CI'TY COUMCIL Little Canada, Minnesota March 8, 1989 Fursuant to due call and notice therec~f a wcn-t;shop meeting of the Cauncil of the City of Little Canada. Minriesota a~ae heid on the Bth day of March, 1984 i~~ the Co~n-icil Chamber-s of the City Center located at S15 L.ittle Canada Road in said City. Mayar Michael Fahey chaired the meeting and called 'at tr..~ order at b:3U p.m. aiid the fc~llowiny membei-s c~f the Coi_i~~cii were present at rc~ll call: htEMBERS FF~ESENT: Mayor Mr. Michael FahF~y Co~u~cilwoman t9rs. Beverly 5r_al~e Councilman Mr. RirF~ Callovr~ Cauncilman Mr. James ~aVallr_+ ALSD F'RESEhJT: City Cler•k Supt. c~f Fub. Chair, Solid Ihem6er, Sc~lid Membe~-~ Salid hiem6er, Solid Member~ Salid Wcn-P;s bJa ,te LJaste tdaste 4Jaste Waste t°I r . ri,- . t'Ir~ t1r . r~~- . ~ ~5. Y•ti-s Jc~sepf~ LIi7.~bacF: Fe+ger- Gl~anze:n. F::athy Ti.~le:=r Earl V~anpJi.~rmari Harry Fca~P, Jean 5mi{,Ii Virginia Fisher Orgaiiized hir. Fahey indicated that the Solid blaste Advisc~ry f;ommittee Cc~llection had made a recommendaticm ta the Cot.n~cil c~n cn-gariizecl collectian as indicated in their memcn-andum dated Mai-ch 2~ 1989. Mr. Fahey summarized their recommendatirm~~. Mr. Fahey asked what the Adviscmy Committee meai~t tay subccmtracting areas c~ut within the City ~mder tl-ieii° Recammendaticm No. 1. M~-. Glan~er stated that there wc~uld cn~ly ~e ane cantract. but the hauler chosen ~mder° th¢:r c:.cmtract cc~uld subccmtract out with the permissioi"i of ttir= City. Mr. Glanzer indicated that the City would si.i7.1 t>c= clealir~g o-~ith only cme hauler who wc~uld be respon:~i.ble ~u~idei- th~ crmtra~t. hh-. Kath stated that ifi the City cc~ntracts with cme hauler. then the City has full ccmtrol, Mr. f:a~h indir_ated that the [.'c~mmittee's intention was not to put the haulers out of business. If the hauler chc~sen Fo~~ld subcontract r..~utP the c~ther haulers a~ould still be in business. Mr. VanNr..n-mari stated that ~nider the Committee's first recommendat:iori, there arould not be any duplicating routes. Ihr, Fahey ask.ed if thei-e ~vere any other cities which havr:~ one averall cantractor whc~ subcontracts atit portiona of i:he city. Mr. Fahey stated that there cc~uld be mcn-r:~ inefficiencies as oppased to havii~g c~ne hauler that coulc:l Fage -1- r~ zraurEs City Counczl t4arch B, 1989 Organized just c~ntract the Uihale City without subcai~tractinc~ r.~ut. Collectiun Mr. 61an~er indicsted that dc~ing so would cause a larr;~e (cont.) demand ~n a hauler whc, may nat be eq~upped ta har~dl~ thi=~ whale City. t'Ir. Fahey stated that Recommendatic~ri Plo. 3 would eliminate the possibility of trying ta decide whc~ is respcrosible fcn- an area of the City. Mrs. Tipler suggested that the City escape the hassle of trying tc~ fig~rre out where th~ haule~-s . are all gaing to wvrk.. Mr. Fahey asked for• comments from those present a1; the meeting. Ms. Sue 5tanet: from bellaire Sanitaticm ii~dicated the she agreed with Recc~mmendati~n No. 2. Ms. Stane4: stated that they have currently farmed a co~~sortium i.i'i Na. St, Paul. Mr. Fahey asked if noise polluticm ai~cl trafifzr_ on raadways could be eliminated ~u~der a ccroscn-tium. Ms. Sta~~ek stated that in No. St. F'aul, each haulei- had its own district. Mrs. Scalze asked if a cnnsortiuim w~-~s 'Farmed~ would the City have t~ ccmtract with all the haulers at oi~e time. t1rs. Tipler stated that the haulers would be almc~st like a corporaticm. Ms. Jean Carlscm, a c~msultant for Woc~dla4::e Sai~itati.cn-i. stated that currently Wc~c~dlal.a is in the middle of a coi_o-t rase and v~c~uld not be able to fcmm a consCrtium ~mtil the co~n-t case is ~~ver. Mr. Fahey ii~dicated that thi~, i~~ anc~ther reason ~~ihy the City should either ccmtract with one hauler for the entire City cn- contract sectic~ns c~'f the City out to three differei~t hauler<.:,. Ms. Carlson iiidicated that many cities have ended i_ify ir'~ lawsuits where they had tc+ pay to the haulers the 'financial value of their businesses that were lost. Mr. Fahey stated that if the City lets all the haulers bid 'fc~r the .r.r.~ritract~ they a~ould ail have a fair shot at acquiring the conti-act. Ms. Carlson stated that sc~me h~ulers have more abi.lity tc~ handle the City th~an c~thers. Mrs. Scal<e mentioned that No. St. F'aul's system i.s somewha'C like f;ecc~mmei~daticm No. 3; hc~wever~ No. St. F'aul has set up a price of what the haulers sn~~ild charge. Mr. Fahey indicated that the Ca~o~cil c~~uid give the haulers 30 days to form a cr_~nsoi-tium. hh-s. Fisher ask:ed if the City cauld fcn-m a contract and iF i:he haulers did not wanL 'tt~ follow it, they would not 6e ccrosidered. Mr. CoJ.lov~j iridicated that htr. Fahey was trying tc~ accomplish 'this 6y giving the haulers 3C> days to fiorm a conscn-tium. Fage -r - MTt~lUTES City Ca~mcil March 8, 1989 Organized i~trs. Scalze stated th~t she did not want cthe~-s to tl~inF:: Collectic~n that the Co~u~cil was j~ret going to considei- a cnnsc~rtium. (coi~t. ) She felt that there could possibly be cme ha~.iler wti~:~ w.i~s interested in bidd'zng the whc~le City. Mr. Fahey stated that I-ie would nc~t want tn contract wibh cme hauler i{ it woulr.l er.pose the City to lawsuits with ten others. Mr. Faney stated that he would be interested iii giving the haulers an opport~mit~~ ta work under a conscn-t;ium. Mr. Fahey asked if the City wae under a time limit of when the cantract wc~uld have to be in place. Mr. 61~anzf.~r indicated that the haulers have had the oppcn-tunity in the past to work on the ccrosortium idea. Mr. Fahey incJic:at~d that the Co~mcil should give the haulers u~~til the 1°irsL rneeting in April tc, su6mit a consc~rtium proposal ~ci t1~e:! City. Mrs. Scalze as4red if thera was a written coritr-acP; that the haulers could view to help them with their proposal„ Mr. Glan~e~- indicated that they d'Yd have a ccmtract. The Ca~mcil felt that they would consider F:ecomm~nclrjtirn-~ No. 2 fcn- 30 days and ifi a s<-~tis{actory agreemerit could i~c~t 6e attained, then the Co~oicii wc~uld censider Recc~rnmendations No. 1 oi- 3. Mrs. Tipler indicated that the City needs an 0~-dil't~=i~~[:e_~ requii-ing the apartmei~ts to participate in the recyclii~c~ program. Mr. Fahey indicated that he would ta14:: tc~ Mr. So-~eeney on this. Mrs. Tipler stated that if a can.:~ortium was formeci» thiE~ haulers ~yould have ta be required to comply with the law as far as repc~rting tc~i~nages. Mr. Fahey stated that the Cc~wicil would lil:e to provi.de the r_un-ently licensed haulei-s ~.eith the oppc~rt~mity to subrnit a c:crosorti~.~m proposal to the City to provi.de fcn- the City'.=.z organized collection i~eeds. Mr. Fahe;~ indicai;ed that City Hali should be available to the ha~ilers sc~ that th~y m~:ry have a meeting place to hald their discussioi~:~. Y1rs. Scal~e menticn~ed that c~n 1~larch 15 the Famsey Cn~rtity 1_eague will 6e holding a program an ^rganized collectio~~ for the cities in Ramsey County. 5he indicated that the meetir~g F'age -3- MiraurEs City Cauncil March B, 1989 Organized will be held ~t Falcr.~i~ Heights City Hall in the BVE'1"17.11Cf. Collectian Mr. Chlebeck stated that he would attend this me~+ting. (r_c~nt. ) There being no furthe~- business. the wcn-4ishop meeting was adjourned at 7;30 p.m. fiespectfully~ suh ittecl4 /~W Yl~"'2.I~~~E~i./~~v v~G.~ I<:.~-L~VanSchoonhoveri Fecord'ang 8ecretary Page -4-