04-10-2002 Council Workshop Agenda

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SP 6280 -304 (I -35E) EDGERTON MEETING NOTES March 11, 2002 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM @ WE conference room 206 13y Jeff Gibbens PRESENT: Keri Aufdencamp - Mn/DOT Metro Division Water Resources - 651 - 634 -2356 Robert Brown - Mn/DOT Metro Division State Aid Engineer - 651 -582 -1351 Jeff Gibbens - Mn/DOT Metro TH 316 Project Manager - 651 -582 -1594 Marc Goess - Mn/DOT Metro Division Area Engineer - 651 -582 -1301 Joel Hanson - Little Canada City Administrator -65'1- 766 -4040 Frank Paflco - Mn/DOT Metro Division Area Manager - 651 -582 -1481 Greg Schroeder - Little Canada Director of Public Works - 651- 766 -4049 Dan Soler - Ramsey County Traffic Engineer - 651 -482 -5209 Rick Terway - Vadnais heights Director of Public Works - 651- 494 -6514 Gerry Urban - Vadnais eights City Administrator - 651- 494 -6511 Rod Webster - Mn /DOT Metro Division Water Resources - 651- 634 -2082 NOTES: This meeting was called to discuss questions or concerns that the cities of Little Canada and Vadnais Heights might have regarding the proposed reconstruction of Edgerton Street, County Road D, and Vadnais Road. Mn/DOT's cost participation policy will apply. 1) Greg and Joel said that the City of Little Canada is planning a pedestrian tunnel under Edgerton Street just south of the proposed construction (south of County Road D). They asked Mn/DOT to design Edgerton Street to accommodate future construction of their pedestrian tunnel. We agreed to design a deeper Edgerton Street storm sewer that will be able to drain the low point of their pedestrian tunnel under Edgerton Street. ACTION: Greg will provide preliminary drawings and grades indicating the city's pedestrian tunnel location and it's low point elevation. ACTION: Rod will provide stonn sewer profile elevations indicating the flow line grade that Mn/DOT could provide at the south end of the proposed Edgerton construction. 2) The group discussed construction of a combined pedestrian/bike trail along Edgerton Street. Joel said that there was not enough room along Edgerton Street in Little Canada for an off street trail system. Dan wanted Edgerton Street designed so that he could stripe it with a continuous 12 foot wide center left turn lane, two 12 foot wide through lanes, and adequate shoulders. Since an off road trail was not an option, Dan requested two 10 foot wide shoulders. The additional width would carry the regional trail, and could be used as right tum lanes at County Road D. Mn/DOT agreed to design Edgerton to a 56 foot wide urban design (10 +12 +12 +12 +10). .It was also agreed to widen the proposed Edaerton bridge: it will now be designed to a 48 feet width (6 +12 +12 +12 +6 barrier to barrier), not including the separated 8 foot wide sidewalk. The continuous center left turn lane will be canned across the bridge, and there will be two 6 foot shoulders. Edgerton street will narrow from 56 feet to 48 feet at the approach panel using 15:1 tapers. Marc said that the additonal width for a wider bridge is directly - 2 1 -