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Charter Commission July 25, 2013 Page 8 12 Commissioner Dahl stated that she does have a high respect for TimeSaver. X13 314 MOTION by Commissioner Gunderson, seconded by Commissioner Dahl, directing Chair Lyden 315 to send a statement to the City Administrator and City Council to not have TimeSaver attend 316 future meetings. 317 318 Further discussion: Commissioner Gunderson stated that she has been working on this issue for 319 the past two years and is really frustrated that the issue has gotten to the point where she has had 320 to make a motion against the action she has desired for the past two years. 321 322 Chair Lyden appreciated the efforts of Commissioner Gunderson and her moral compass. He 323 stated that he has had the experience of miscommunication with the City Council in the past. He 324 stated that is why the Charter Commission should only deal with the City Council through 325 official directions. 326 327 Commissioner Gunderson stated that she really wanted the April meeting in order to move 328 forward in the process and believed that not having the April meeting hurt the Commission. 329 330 Commissioner Storberg stated that she hated to see the hard work wasted and suggested that 331 something be written asking that the minutes be sent directly to the Chair for review prior to 332 posting. She recognized the amount of work currently assigned to the Secretary for the 33 Commission and believed that this would ease the process and workload. d34 J35 Commissioner Dahl stated that she had seconded the motion only for discussion and asked that 336 the Commission vote against the motion. She stated that the Charter Commission has used 337 TimeSaver in the past and believed the service to be an asset. She was concerned that the City 338 Council put conditions on the formal action and for that reason, this should be denied as she 339 believed that to be a form of control. She stated that she would like to see a motion asking for 340 what the Commission originally asked for, which is for TimeSaver to attend the meetings, with 341 minutes sent to the Chair and distributed to the Commission for review, correction and approval 342 of the minutes at the next Charter Commission meeting. She stated that in her opinion, this 343 would be the only way the Charter Commission would accept the services from TimeSaver. She 344 recognized the amount of time needed for the Commissioners to complete the minutes on their 345 own. 346 347 Commissioner Bartsch stated that the Commission is back to the issue of payment and he does 348 not see how the Commission could ask TimeSaver to appear at the meetings and complete 349 minutes with no assurance that they will be paid. He believed that the assurance should come in 350 the official written action of the City Council. He believed that it would be unfair to ask 351 TimeSaver to come back to the meetings with payment being an issue. He did not believe that 352 the decision regarding minute taking could be made until assurance of payment had been made. 353 ,.� 54 Commissioner Penn stated that she would be voting against the motion. She believed that this 55 was two separate issues, one being the interaction of the City Council and the Charter '56 Commission and the issue of secretarial support. She believed that the issues should be separate 8