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� c October 27, 1976 The special meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 8:02 P.M. by Chairman Gourley on October 27, 1976. Members present; Karth, Hill, Reinert. Absent; Kelling, Shearen, Nadeau. Mr. Bill Short, Planner, Mr. George Gotwald, Engineer, and Mr. Landol Locher, Attorney, were also present. Mr. McLean, Council Liaison, present. Mr. Gourley stated this meeting was for the purpose of getting the reports from the Planner and Engineer as to their meeting with -the Metropolitan Council Staff. Also, to study the maps prepared by the Engineer as to the staging of the sewer development, and to inform the Attorney as to the progress to this point. Mr. Short presented a typed letter with comments from the Metropolitan Council Staff on the points in question. When.a building permit is applied for in an area where soild are considered to be marginal, the Planning and Zoning Board had suggested the permit be stamped with a warning. The Metropolitan Council Staff had suggested this stamp contain wording to the effect the City will not expend funds to rescue him if he insists on building in that location. Mr. Reinert said this would be fine for the original owner, but what about the second and third owners who would have no knowledge of the original warning. Mr. Locher told the Board of one County that will not record a legal description of meets and bounds without the approval of the City. Mr. Reinert felt this is a good thing, but when a buyer goes to register his deed, he has usually already paid for the,property. There was discussion on this problem with no solution. In Subd. 2, there is discussion of revising the platting ordinances to standardize the requirements. This is one of the area for Mr. Locher to advise the Board. In Section II of the comments, the one acre minimum lot size was acceptable in some areas, but the overall gross density was unacceptable to the Staff. They suggested establishing two rural districts - one residential and one agricultural. This would create a density figure acceptable to the Metropolitan Council Staff. There was discussion of the areas where the density figure could be one unit per forty acres (such as the sod fields) and areas where the figure could be one unit per ten acres. This is not a zoning ordinance, but to merely be used a guide, so variances could be issued to these figures. The septic system regulations being written by the PCA are not completed but, the City will have to adopt them when they are finalized. The Board had no problem with this. Mr. Gourley asked what happens if the City disregards the density objections of the Metropolitan Staff and submits this as planned by this Board? Mr. Short said the general feeling of the Metropolitan Staff is they have the power to limit the number of hook-ups in the interceptors. Mr. Gotwald felt that since the Areas in the Country Lakes development have been accessed and there is an interceptor available, or soon will be, the Metropolitan Staff cannot refuse to serve those people. He felt they do not have as much power as they seem to think. He said they will try to control, but he wondered just haw far they can go in holding back development. Mr. Gotwald had drawn maps showing the staged development in conjunction to the urban service areas. He explained the reasoning behind the maps being marked as they were. There was general agreement on these maps as presented. Mr. Gotwald was asked if he felt these maps are sufficient to present as a part of the cmerall package and Mr. Gotwald said, Yes, with a note of explaination.