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261 <br />A special meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission to consider a proposed <br />ordinance change was called jto order by Ken Gourley, Chairman, at 8:05 p.m. <br />Members present: Jerome Heath, Lawrence Johnson, VI Schwankl, Bod Doocy, and <br />Council liasan John McLean. Vernon Reinert and James Shearen were not present. <br />Minutes from the April 4, 1979 special meeting were laid aside for approval <br />at the May 16th meeting. <br />A samplce ordinance to amend Ordinance No. 56 and Mo. 56A had been prepared by <br />The city attorney and was submitted to the Planning and Zoning Commission.' <br />Revisions under consideration were' the minimum lot size for the construction <br />of a single family dwelling and served by municipal sewer and water, and the <br />square footage requirements for the construction of single family homes. <br />Mr. Johnson presented for consideration several general ideas on city planning <br />and zoning which he has come across in the course of.his background research <br />on population density. He estimates approximately a month to fully analyze and <br />collate:.his literature and information for presentation to the Planning and <br />Zoning Commission. Mr. Johnson has contacted city planners and city adminis- <br />trators from Little Canada; Lakeville, Cottage Grove, Forest Lake, Lake Elmo, <br />Maple Grove and Mendota Heights, as well as officials form Twin City.Federal, <br />Minnesota Federal, and Northwestern Banks. <br />Mr. Johnson particularly stressed the policy of most of these cities in requiring <br />garages with all new housing. It was brought out that although there are often <br />no ordinances against units without garages, there are what are called developer <br />agreements. There was some question as to the possible situation of a private <br />landowner building his own home. Mr. Johnson also indicated that in these <br />cities it was rare to handle plats with variances, and that variances are rarely <br />if ever granted. He also indicated that these cities don't allow residential <br />homes to be built in commercial areas; that whatever the zoning called for was <br />strictly adhered to.. Mr. Heath raised the question of whether zoning as a rule <br />was restricted to a certain use or whether it included any lesser use as well.' <br />Mr. Johnson also brought up the fact that although there are several different <br />methods used, an effective way to handle approval of zoning and subdivisions <br />is to give the builders the ordinances when they come in, and when they want <br />to get together they call in their city planner, city administrator, city <br />engineer and so, on, and start the clock; and that's how these people get paid. <br />They make a deposit when they bring in a plat and the fees come out of that. <br />Mr. Johnson was recommended a book on city planning which he would like to order <br />on behalf of the Planning and Zoning Commission. <br />VI Schwankl presented information from a publication entitled "Advisory Land Use <br />Standards for Multifamily Dwellings': put out by the Metropelitan Council in <br />St. Paul. She also quoted figures on minimum Jot sizes and square feetage for <br />for single family dwellings from communities such as Apple Valley, Blaine, <br />Bloomington, Brooklyn Park, Falcon Heights, and St. Loiis Park. Only one of <br />these communities had ordinanees requiring a garage (Blaine); lot sizes ran <br />from 7,200 sq. ft. to 11,000 sq. ft. and requirements on house sizes ran from <br />none (Falcon Heights) to 1,040 sq. ft. <br />Mr. Blaekbird presented some material to the Planning and Zoning Commission, <br />among which was an excerpt of recommendations by the Metropolitan Council to <br />local communities, dated from August, 1977. It was recommended that garages <br />not be required for single family or multifamily housing, and that -minimum <br />house sizes or float' areas not be requited or reevaluated in light of high <br />houslmg costs. <br />Mr. Johnson suggested that if it was thought to be benificial, he could request <br />
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