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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/11/1979 P&Z MinutesJuly 11, 1979 The special meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission began at 8:10 p.m., July 11, 1979, not being officially called to orderyas there'was not initially'a'quorum present. Members present:''Ken Gourley, Bob Doocy, Jerome Heath, Council Liaison John McLean, and Mr. Reinert arriving Tate. Members absent: Lawrence Johnson; Vi Schwanki, and James Shearer'.' The first item was the process of defining the assets and. liabilities of the city. This would help identify some areas that needed work and areas that did not. Following are the items descussed, listed under' the categories of "Assets," "Liabilities," and "other." • Assets 1. Good access to the Twin Cities and to shopping centers. Lino Lakes is close to both downtown Minneapolis and Saint Paul, and at the same time is more of Tess country. Related to this is the acess,to the two Major freeways. 2. Acess to cultural activities and major sports. 3. Acess to two major freeways. one liability here is the processing of speeding tickets, etc. 4. Acess to major recreation areas. a. County Park b. St. Croix Valley c. Good city park system 5. Abundance of open, developable land. It was brought up that the undevelopable land could also be as asset as far as green or open spaces. 6. Good traffic flow north and south. 7. Surface water --Lakes. Generally good recreational water (fishing, etc.) but not good body contact water. 8. Churches --accessibility to various denominations. 9. Police --The city has its own local police department. 10. Civil Defense --The city has a good, dedicated group working on Civil Defense. 11. Seaplane base, The Air Park is recreational only. 12. Proximitly to Anoka County Airport. 13. Aggressive planning and developing. The community actively working with potential business development --the "sell your product" approach. This was discussed in relation to the recent meeting with IC Systems. 14. Stable financial backing forcity services. Traditionally this has been true. 15. Variety of types of people in Lino Lakes --and therefore a variety of input and ideas. There is, however, a lack of community expression. 16. City -provided services. a. Roads b. Building Department c. Administrative offices. Liabilities 1. Lack of services. a. Water system b. Sewer system • Page 2 Planning and Zoning July 11, 1979 2. High water table. 3. Restricted soils. 4. Limited traffic flow east and west. 5. Limited industry --also, limited as far as potential industrial sites (related to lack of water and sewer systems). Lack of industry means a limited tax base. Weld -developed industrial sites would attract business to Lino Lakes. 6. Lack of coordination or centralization of youth activities (4-H,,Girl, Scouts, Cub Scouts, etc.) This is related also to having three seperate school systems in Lino Lakes. 7. Lack of a city center. Related to several other "liailities" here as well. 8. Lack of a good restaurant and motel. 9. Lack of proffessional people --doctor, dentist, drugstore, etc. There is no "downtown" Lino Lakes for these people to locate. It is a very spread -out community. 10. This is primarily an agricultural/residential (bedroom) community. There is a lack of balance as far as industrial, commerical and residential areas. There is less and less farming done --most of this land is going to residential and recreational use. A'Iot of the farm land is being bought up by developers and lying unused until it is built on. 11. Lack of multiple housing. There is basically only single-family housing. This is also related to the lack of sewers. There is a lack of balance between single-family and multiple -family housing. The labor force moves into the Cities for lack of a place to rent. 12. Lack of inter -county planning. 13. Lack of shoreland management. Also mentioned was surface water use and maintenance. Mr. McLean brought up that Lino Lakes should con- sider establishing benchmarks for the lakes. At present, it is a very loose arrangement with the St.Paul Water Department drawing on the lakes, often in such a way as to reduce the quality of the enviro- ment. Mr.McLean .indicated that .the .city has the authority' to establish the benchmarks as a means to control this. Other 1. School system. There are three systems in Lino Lakes. 2. Contracted fire services. These are Lexington and Centerville. A fire service situation will not grow with the city. There may at some time be the necessity of a third contract in the area'east of the freeway. 3. Fair road conditions. All new roads must meet the standards set by ordinance, but existing roads have'been maintained only and are in fair condition. The next item was a list of areas already dicussed at past meetings as needing to be reviewed. The list was compiled from the minutes of previous meetings, as well as input from this meeting. 1. No Comprehensive Park Plan. Needed is a plan that outlines specific types of parks and so forth for specific areas. 2. Density. Page 3 Planning and Zoning July 11, 1979 3. Comprehensive Sewer Plan. Mr. Gotwald is working on this. 4.. Drainage. This has to be dealt with fairly soon. Mr. Gotwald is drawing up some preliminary estimates as to the cost for developing this plan. This would be a Comprehensive Drainage and Ponding Plan, and along with that would be developed a map for the Building Depart- ment that would set a minimum elevation for basements in a specific district. Mr. McLean brought up that if benchmarks were established for the lakes, it would help in developing this map.. 5. Wetlands. Mr. Gotwald is preparing this as previously presented to the Planning and Zoning Commission. 6. Transportation (roads). Mr. Gotwald is working on this. 7. The 5-acre reqirement. 8. Review park dedication requirements. Mr. McLean suggested removing the need for commercial and industrial park dedications. 9. Protection of commercial zones. The possibility of rezoning areas that are zoned commercial but have residential development to allow for the residential only was suggested. The commercial or industrial zoning would be made up for elsewhere. Breaking up the strip zoning was also suggested. Reevaluating zone uses (not allowing lesser use) was considered. To avoid future problems, the agricultural zoning, which allows R-1 only, should be zoned specifically (R-1, R-2, etc.) So people know exactly what type of area they are moving into. 10. Adopt shoreline management. This dealswith pollution and so forth, and the location of houses near the shore; there is also classifica- tion of the lakes by type, which defines the use and development around them. 11. Third soil type. Soils of a "severe condition for building" type had been modified to "Severe" and marginal, and there had been a request to be more restrictive. Mr Reinert felt the Soil Conservation Service's soil surveys should be followed. 12. Attennas. Some committments had been made to WCCO an atenna situation and there was another request for an antenna from KSTP--they want to lease some land from the company that owns the present antenna and put one up on Birch Street. NorthwestwernBell's microwave attenna is down and there was a question as to whether there was ever a dem- olition permit. 13. WCP--40--this is in reference to sewers. WCP--40 is the state pollution control requirement for all on -site sustems. 14. Hangars in the Air Park. There was a committment to review a request to allow hangers in the Air Park. 15. House numbers. There is an old request from the Council to develop a house numbering policy in the application of numbers to vacant land. There is also some trouble areas that were misnumbered that needs to be straightened out. This affects both street names and numbers.. The present problem makes it difficult for fire and police services. 16. Sign Ordinance. The city theoretically has a choice of adopting its own sign ordinance and having it certified by the state or adopting the state ordinance. Apparently the state has never certified any of the local sign ordinances. There had been someone out to check on the ordinance, but it was not yet certified, and there was some question as to whether it would be. Page 4 Planning and Zoning July 11, 1979 17. Street Lighting. A recommended standard on street lighting should be developed --what the lights should look like, where they should be placed, and so on. Don Volk had submitted some information on this. NSP and Anoka Electric should probably be invited to attend a meeting to deal with this. Mr. McLean brought up the street lighting on Hokah Drive, and the fact that they are working on getting temporary lighting until the work on street lighting is done. 18. Natural Gas. This would deal with natural gas franchises and the possibility. of offering some planning assitance at the Planning and Zoning level with the developers to avoid future problems --not necessarily providing franchise limits, but some policies in the plan- ing process that would help developers define where they are going to get their natural gas. 19. Lot size. 20. Building size. The next special meeting is August 8; Mr. Gotwald will present his ideas and his preliminary estimates at that meeting. He will cover sewers, drainage.and wetlands. The planner, Mr. Short, will also be asked to attend. The workload and the assets/liabilities worksheet will begone over. The Comprehensive Plan as it exists will be reviewed to see if the workload can be related to specific changes to be made. Mr. Short can also add to the list things missed or forgotten, and information from Metro that may have to be complied with. Mr. Gotwald should also perhaps suggest items that need to be reviewed. Mr. Locher will be asked for an estimate so that the budgetary figures could be sent on to the Council by the August meeting. Approval of the May 16 minutes was previously held over, and was held over again for the next regular meeting. Approval of the June 20 minutes was also held over until more of the members present at that meeting were available. Mr. Reinert moved to approve the minutes of the June 27 special meeting. Mr. Doocy seconded the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed. Mr. McLean gave a report on the Baldwin Lake Traitor Court expansion; ingress, egress and utility acess to the locked -in Tots were added re- quirements. A public hearing had been set. Mr. Reinert moved to adjourn at 10:30 p.m.; seconded by Mr. Heath. Motion declared passed. The next regular meeting is July 18. Note 11 Mr.Heath's motion on the changes to Ordinance. No. 2Q, as -actually made, included only the changes to rules 1, 9, 10, 21, and 24, as well as the recommendation to expand the ordinance to include the commissions, etc. I felt the intent here had been to include the change to rule 26 as well as had been discussed, so I didn't omit it from the motion. If I am in error here, please let me know and I will change the minutes accordingly. Also, I am unsure as to whether I have the name --Mr. LaRue --correctly (first page). --Carol Krasnow Mr. Locher's letter enclosed.