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4- There was discussion on the grade and level of the land (drainage will go down on the east side of the court to 74th Street and will go into the Rice Creek chain) as well as handling the flash flood waters. Mr. Meyers stated that they would try to utilize the land as it is as well as utilizing the present large trees, if possible. They will do studies on the drainage. W. McLean asked about provisions for the water system. There were two possibili- ties; connecting into a municipal system or an interval private system to connect to the municipal system later. There will be fire hydrants within 300 to 325' of all mobile home units. They have not yet looked into contracting for fire service. W. McLean asked what they proposed the population impact would be on the school district. W. Menkveld stated they didn't have any figures yet, but it isn't expected the park will build up very fast. W. Van Housen was asked for his comments and he stated that he was not totally negative on their concept. They had some good ideas, although they are different than normal. He felt we could grant some of the variances but not all of them. W. Van Housen asked if the roads off Lilac Street would be private or public. W. Meyers stated that 74th Street across the court would be a dedicated street and the service road along 35W would be dedicated. The rest would be privately built and privately maintained. Mr. Van Housen stated that it would be okay to grant the 24' cul-de-sac roads but he doesn't like parking in the center; this should be a landscaped area. Also he thought their ideas for sidewalks were acceptable. W. Van Housen stated that 500 trailers would produce 1,000 adults plus approximately 1 child per trailer, amounting to 1,500 persons using these facilities. He noted that approximately 10 acres was provided for recreation but no provisions for facilities. W. Van Housen took exception to the long lots es indicated on the drawings and thought that they might prevent free moving traffic on the collector streets. Slides were shown of the area in which the park was to be located for orientation purposes. W. Van Housen did state that the over - riding problems were sewer and water and that the proposed project had a challenging concept and that he bad no major objections to it. Mr. Gotwald was asked for his comments. He said that he had understood the utility layouts showed that the flow would go to the south and west whereas the sewer studies which his firm did in 1961, 1965 and later, showed that the sewer drain- age would be going south and east; also that the sewer line would go down Fourth Avenue and under I -35W at that point. If we go along with Suburban's layout, it would mean two crossing of the freeway. There was discussion of the capacity for Lino Lakes in the NSSSD hook -up on 101st Lane in Blaine. W. Meyers stated that if they made a temporary arrangement to use that line, they would use a small lift station on 104th. Upon questioning, W. Meyers stated that a force main would cost the same as a treatment plant or about $100,000.00; that a municipal line would cost about $150,000.00. They have not looked at the operating cost. W. Gotwald stated that it was not a good idea to cross I -35W twice and that a private concern could not contract with NSSSD. W. Gotwald felt that a proposed court would have to go with a Village system. He stated that the Pollution Control Agency wanted no permanent treatment plants. W. Van Housen commented that the State Building Code does not permit a private sewer system for a multi- family housing development. W. Gotwald stated that all plans must be given to PCA and that they would not look favorably on a treatment plant for a trailer court unless it were a temporary plant to be taken over by