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Planning & Zoning Board <br />February 12, 2003 APPROVED MINUTES <br />Page 16 <br />late April and they would start marketing th e townhomes in late fall, early winter. He <br />stated it was important to have all three pr oducts available in the initial marketing. He <br />stated they needed to have an ongoing i nventory of approximately 40 units to allow <br />people their choice of location. He stated they had a total of 95 acres, with 25 acres being <br />open space. He stated they were willing to work within the confines of the Ordinance. <br />He asked for input on their proposed phasing. <br />Chair Schaps asked what was the materials going to be. Mr. Johnson replied they would <br />be maintenance free and because it would be a part of a homeowners’ association, they <br />would be maintained by that homeowners’ association. He stated they had not <br />specifically talked about what materials we re going to be used, but they would work <br />within what staff recommended. <br />Mr. Kirmis noted there were instances where the sides of the multi unit structures faced <br />the streets and asked that those facades were “dressed up”, so they were not a blank wall <br />to make them more attractive. Mr. John son replied he believed there were windows <br />along the side, in addition to additional landscaping. If noted if windows were not there, <br />he would not be opposed to adding them. <br />Bill Noel, 346 Carl Street, stat ed his opinion had not changed and he did not want Carl <br />Street to go through because it affected if pr operty value. He noted traffic on Carl Street <br />would increase substantially if it went through. He noted there was a danger factor by <br />having increased traffic on Carl St reet. He indicated other opti ons to get to that area had <br />not been explored. He stated the sod ow ner was willing to se ll his property, but nobody <br />followed through with him to see what options were available. <br />Dave Ramsden, 302 Carl Street, stated he could not see anybody driving down Carl <br />Street doing 45 mph, which is what Chief Benne tt indicated emergency vehicles traveled. <br />He asked how was there enough room from the d itch to put in a road. Mr. Smyser replied <br />they had looked at that issue and it would work. <br />Mr. Ramsey asked if there would be a fen ce along the road so people did not end up in <br />the ditch. <br />Ernest Olson, Lot 12, stated he was opposed to the Carl Street connection. He stated if <br />they had to have a through street, a compro mise would be to have an emergency only <br />vehicle route. He noted the police did not ca re if there was a thr ough street or not. He <br />stated the road could have knock down barrie rs. He stated knock down barriers would <br />not do any damage to emergency vehicles doing through them. He stated when he <br />purchased his property, it was on a cul-de-sac and property on cul-de-sacs meant higher <br />property values. <br />Jeff Kolstad, 296 Carl Street, stated he was “h ighly” frustrated with the City and the <br />process. He stated at no time had anyone fr om the City come up with a different proposal <br />for Carl Street. He stated it appeared th e City wanted to push the street through. He <br />stated traffic did not warrant Carl Street to go through. He stated he had spoken with the <br />Rice Creek Watershed District and there was a 50 foot easement from the center of the <br />ditch to the edge of the road. He noted de velopment history proved the Carl Street was
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