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Planning & Zoning Board February 12, 2003 Page 18 DRAFT MINUTES Mr. Olson noted when the cul -de -sac was installed, the City retained a technical easement from the main property line to the west to where it hit Sunset. He noted that width was 30 feet or less and this was not large enough to build a 32 foot road that was required. He noted the City did not have enough easement to put a road through and the traded off by permitting this entire development. He stated the wetlands were established and this was meant to be a permanent cul -de -sac. Mr. Lyden made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 8:03 p.m. The motion was supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 6 -0. Chair Schaps asked how difficult would it be to build a road along the sod farms. Mr. Johnson replied it would not be an impossibility. He noted they envisioned a trail in that area. He noted a road would impact the pond and /or the house. He asked if it paralleled the power line, could the road share a power line easement. He noted he did not believe it could. He noted one of the other problems was that the sod farm was not in the Comprehensive Plan to be developed at any time in the near future. Mr. Lyden stated the issue of Carl Street was that it was a neighborhood and it was his position that they did not have the right to create a new neighborhood, while destroying another neighborhood. He stated he did not believe emergency access had met the merit to push Carl Street through. He asked staff if this was a viable plat with just a west connection and if it was possible to look at something where it was viable to approve Phase 1, 2 and maybe even 3 and look for the other east/west connection which would run north of Carl Street. Mr. Kirmis replied his understanding was that they wanted Carl Street for emergency purposes. He noted an east/west connection needed to be provided at some point. Chair Schaps stated if the City was willing to wait until Phase 2, it would buy them some time to add an east/west connection. He stated he would like nothing done with Carl Street right now and allow for the connection to made in the future, maybe depending upon a number of things that might change i.e. emergency situation or there was not any other connection that could be created. He suggested the developer get in touch with the sod farm owner to see what options they could work out with him to get an east/west connection. He noted they needed to maintain as much flexibility as they could. Mr. Corson asked if the City should look for a dedication for the street under the power line if they needed it in the future. Mr. Grochala noted they would need to dedicate it for street and utility purposes and not parkland. He indicated the stub to the north would be enough. He stated Carl Street connection was more important at the beginning of the project. Mr. Corson asked if there was a wetland to the north. Mr. Johnson replied the only problem would be the houses off of Fourth. He noted where the trail was now, if they wanted a road through there at some point, they would need to come up with an easement. DRAFT MINUTES •