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DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND PARK BOARD MEETING
F- . uary 20, 1991
A special meeting was held to discuss the proposed preliminary plat of Wenzel Farms.
The DRB reviewed this plat on February 13th and tabled it due to the fact that they
felt they did not have enough detail and there were too many unresolved issues. The
board did not feel comfortable issuing the rezone. In the month of January the
preliminary plat was approved by the DRB for the single - family portion of the plat.
Present at the meeting was: Council Members Sally Kuether, Andy Neal and Vern
Reinert; DRB Members Bob King, John Bergeson, and Monika Slatten; Park Board
Members Ray Johnson, John Bauman, Candy Toffoli, and Ken Johnson. Staff
members present were John Miller, City Planner; Marty Asleson, Parks
Superintendent; and Laura Elken, Planning Secretary.
Kirk Corson, Developer of the plat and Roger Hokanson, owner of Hokanson Plumbing
were also present.
A public hearing is scheduled for Monday, February 11th, and staff felt that a special
meeting should be held to resolve these issues before it went to council.
Kirk Corson displayed a new site plan and landscaping plan. A memorandum outlining
previously discussed issues was also handed out.
First of all the park issue was discussed. Originally the developer proposed a park in
the southern section. The park board denied this option because the majority of the
land was low. Then the developer moved the park to the north east section of the
plat. During the meeting with staff and the developer on the 15th of February it was
decided that the park would not be adequate in that part of the development either.
The plan now stands with a park located in the center of the plat on the east side.
It is 7 /10ths of an acre and will be a tot lot. Trails loop around the entire area and
connect to Sunrise Park in the south western section. The remaining park dedication
will be cash and be given at different times as each phase is started. This way if the
cash dedication amount increases the parks department will receive the current rate.
Marty Asleson stated that he feels this is an adequate amount of space considering
that Sunrise Park is nearby, but added that smaller "tot lots" are difficult to maintain.
He said that he felt it was a good central location for the townhomes and single - family
homes.
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Wenzel Farms Subdivision will be constructed in three phases. The first phase will
consist of 60 single - family homes. The second phase will consist of the remaining
single - family homes with the possibility of one or two townhome units. The third
phase then will be the townhomes. Kirk Corson added that all the grading will be
completed at once.
John Bergeson stated that the reason the park board could not approve the rezone is
because the board wants to know what the project will look like first. If it were to be
rezoned in 1991 and then in 1993 the developer wanted to construct townhomes, the
city wants to be assured that it will be quality construction. This has been the policy
of the board for some time.
Bob King stated that he was on the board when Dennis Erickson brought in his site
plan for townhomes. The board knew what the colors of the townhomes would be,
what the roof would be like, and how they stored their trash. It was very detailed.
He said that this plan would not require that much detail, but there were just too
many unanswered questions.
Kirk Corson reviewed his memorandum to the board. He stated in his memorandum:
This is a report addressing all of the concerns brought to our attention by the
planning staff. Hopefully, it will set the City of Lino Lakes at ease in regard to
our development proposal and its quality.
The Wenzel Farms townhouse development shall be done in such a fashion that
will make it not only an attractive amenity to the City of Lino Lakes, but also
allow it to be marketable to the empty nester population given its location and
design. It is not possible to state every detail of the townhomes to be
developed at this time as townhouse concepts change as the market changes
and this market will not be tapped for another three years.
This memorandum will be attached to the back of these minutes.
Kirk Corson said that 82% of the area is green space.
Corson stated that the townhomes would be two story. He said that split level
townhomes do not sell well, and it is difficult for the elderly to live in because of all
the steps.
Each unit will have a separate back yard, the residents can personalize their yards by
having gardens, etc.
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Corson proposed that most of the residents would be first home buyers with possibly
closer to the wetland second home buyers.
A site plan for each phase of development will be brought before the city council for
final approval before construction begins on each phase.
The park issue was discussed further and a motion was made.
MOTION: Candy Toffoli moved to accept the park dedication as proposed for the
Wenzel Farms subdivision consisting of the area approximately 7 /10ths of an acre as
proposed park land. The remainder will be given as a cash dedication given to the city
as each phase receives final plat approval. John Bauman seconded the motion and
the motion was approved unanimously.
Street names were discussed. On the proposed plat the streets names consisted of
"Ivy Ridge Lane, Ivy Ridge Court, Ivy Ridge Drive" and Andy Neal brought up the fact
that the post office, fire and police department have a hard time when the street
names are so similar. They decided that Ivy Ridge Lane would be used, but the rest
of the streets would be named differently. John Miller will decide on the street
names.
Entrance monuments will be similar to the subdivision in Blaine called "Autumn
Woods" a picture was handed out showing that monument. It will be wooded with
large rocks and plantings below.
A considerable amount of landscaping is proposed. Landscaping has doubled from the
originally presented plat. Trees purchased will be 5 1/2 feet tall. The entrance also
shows two berms with ornamental bushes.
Mr. Corson stated that instead of using berms between the townhouse units and the
single - family units they proposed to install a double row of conifers such as Green or
Black Hills Spruce which do well in this area.
Roof material was questioned. Roger Hokanson stated they would be organic asphalt
shingles. The colors of the townhomes will be earth tones.
Corson stated that the minimum price of the townhomes would be $80,000. The
square footage is an average of 1500 square feet. The main floor would be 1,018
and at the most upstairs would consist of two bedrooms and a bathroom.
Vern Reinert stated that this will be the first townhome project going in to the city and
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the council wants to be sure that it is a good plan. Roger Kolstad said that he wants
to build nice townhomes so they will sell.
Kirk Corson explained how utilities will be run through the site. He is working with
the city engineer on this issue.
The city engineer and the design review board asked that the street widths be
increased to 32 feet allowing parking on both sides.
Vern Reinert asked about the bi -laws within the home owners association. He asked
that the association be responsible for the monumentation.
Mailboxes design are now dictated in part by the Post Office serving the development.
Corson handed out pictures of what the mail boxes would look like. Consolidated
boxes will be required for the townhomes. The Post Office installs the mail boxes.
MOTION: Robert King moved to rezone the Wenzel Farms subdivision from single -
family to R -3 multiple family. Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion
was approved unanimously.
MOTION: Robert King moved to rezone the Wenzel Farms subdivision from R -3 to R -5
Planned Unit Development. Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion was
approved unanimously.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to the city council approval of the
preliminary plat for Townhouses of the Wenzel Farms subdivision. Approval is
contingent upon the developer meeting the following conditions:
1. Side yard set back for unit #50 will be looked at and approved by the
city engineer.
2. A water retention plan for positive drainage to be approved by the city
engineer and presented to the city council at the time of the final plat
hearing.
3. Utility easements shown in overall plat.
4. Planting of conifers will be of at least 5 1/2 feet in height.
5. A two car garage will be constructed for each townhome.
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6. The streets within the townhouse project will be 32 feet from back of
curb to back of curb. The streets will be private streets.
7. Street names will conform with city regulations.
8. The city attorney review and approve the home owners association.
It is up to the developer to establish the home owners association.
Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
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onstruction, Inc.
To: Lino Lakes City Council, Design Review Board, Bark Board
From: Hokanson Development Inc.
Re: Wenzel Farms
Date: February 19, 1991
This is a report addressing all of the concerns brought to our
attention by the planning staff. Hopefully, it will set the City
of Lino Lakes at ease in regard to our development proposal and
its quality.
The Wenzel Farms townhouse development shall he done in such A
fashion that will make it not only an attractive ammenity to the
City of Lino Lakes, but also allow it to be marketable to the
empty nester population given its location and design. It is not
possible to state every detail of the townhomes to be developed at
this time as townhouse concepts change as the market changes and
this market will not be tapped tor another three years.
Whatever the market might be in three years, it is my
understanding that the site plan review will permit the City of
Lino Lakes to review our project again and mak? recommendations
prior to construction of the townhomes. Accordingly, whatever is
revigwld now will again be scrutinized later by committees that
will different perspectives and detailed concerns derived from
townhouse projects already underway.Such an elaborate process
anticipated in the future makes any meticulous review done at this
point in time a duplication of efforts.
The items that we are hoping to address to the satisfaction of the
City Council, Park Board and Design Review Board will he directed
towards densities, park location, building concepts, design
concepts, square footage, general colors, general construction
materials, utility locations and design, general landscaping
materials etc.
Roads: We anticipate the installation of a private road that
conforms to the City of Lino Lakes public standard of 32 feet back
of curb to back of curb. The curbs will be concrete D -4/12
surmountable curbs conforming to City engineering requirements. A
public utility easement will lie adjacent to the street for the
installation of public infrastructure. The road will not have a
sixty foot right of way as is found on a public road given that
such a layout would not allow development of the townhome site.
All cul de sacs, roads, materials, and installation methods will
be in conformance to City engineering standards. All cul de sac
radii will be at least 46'.
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Highway access: We have discussed the access onto Take Drive with
both the County Highway Department and the Minnesota Department of
Transportation. As originally discussed MNDOT prefers to see a
maximum of two access points in accordance with the two original
field access driveways. How the torn lanes and bypass Ianes are to
be designed is covered under their permit process. The most
northerly portion of the private drive will terminate in a cut de
sac conforming to the city engineering standards.
Townhouse locations: We do not anticipate moving the locations of
the townhomes from the positions shown on the preliminary plat
given that we need to have the pads graded at the same time as the
rough grading. This is due to the requirement to have a soil
engineer inspect the soil below each pad prior to fill placement
in order to receive F.H.A. approval„,
Townhouse design and design integration: The specific floor plans
may change slightly to meet the market at the time of development
but the materials, colors, quality, and size will not. For details
on what we are proposing for a floor plan, please refer to the
copies previously submitted. These plans indicate the Layout of
the proposed units and have alternate plans that can be installed
intermittently for a greater variety and to allow greater
flexibility in meeting the buyers needs. As drawn, the plans do
not require great changes in the floor dimensions to allow a
varied number of internal configurations.
The plans submitted show a streetscape that is not excessively
crowded and does not create a walled effect. This is due to the
variety of impositions into the line of sight caused by the
jutting vestibules of several of the models in each set of
units.With the Landscaping shown on the landscape plan for each
unit as well as that shown on the overall plan, we anticipate the
curbside appeal for this project to surpass the typical single
family development.
Because we are required to construct upward rather than down due
to the high water table, we must build the townhomes as stab on
grade units. We do not foresee split Level units given their
awkwardness for the elderly. We expect to market the product shown
or something very similar to it.
The concept plan indicates two story units with alternative units
available. Such a plan avoids a repitition that would become
boring. All units shall have aluminum siding and soffits for
maintenance purposes. If brick is used on a particular unit, the
design will carry through to other units in the project to
maintain an integrated effect.
Colors will be limited primarily to earth tones and pastels where
they are not deemed to be obtrusive. Whatever color is used in the
first phase of the townhouse development will he applied
throughout the second phase as well.
Setbacks: There is technically not a setback requirement from the
private street given that it is owned by the townhouse association
yet we are proposing thirty feet to allow adequate driveway
parking area. The planned Unit Development (P.U.D.) concept allows
such a setback flexibility as Long as the density is established.
The density is established at seventy five units.
Setbacks from the highway are forty feet to allow as much distance
as possible for buffering noise levels and to avoid a crowded
appearance from the right -of -way.
Rear setbacks are thirty feet to allow as much room as possible
between the townhomes and the single family units. With such a
setback it is not anticipated that there will be Less than one
hundred feet between the nearest single family residence and the
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Double frontage: there are no double frontage lots in the
townhouse development given the private status of the street and
the association lot that surrounds each townhouse lot.
Parking: While it is possible to park on the street just as one
would park on a city street, there will also be parking areas
abutting the streets for visitors. These spaces are in addition to
the two garage spaces and two driveway spaces provided for each
unit.
In addition, the townhouse bylaws will forbid the permanent
parking of vehicles on the street and he able to have such
vehicles towed at the owner's expense. Permanent parking will be
considered as the parking of vehicles on the street for more than
thirty six hours.
Park area: While the developer originally attempted to provide as
much park space as possible on the north or south side of the
project, the park board prefers a central location. Accordingly, a
smaller, more centrally located park is now being shown.
Lot maintenance: Each townhouse unit will have ownership of a lot
on which they can plant a garden and maintain if they desire. It
is the association however, which is ultimately responsible for
the lot maintenance and the bylaws will ensure the neighbors that
any private gardens and plantings will not be a nuisance (ie.
contain noxious weeds, long grass etc.).
Landscaping: The landscape plan originally submitted indicated one
tree per unit and a number of shrubs for each unit. This was in
addition to the decorative plantings done to make the entrance to
the development more enticing. Staff has requested additional tree
plantings. Accordingly, we have proposed more treeSalong Lake
Drive as a buffer and will install an additional ornamental tree
(ie. one which does not overwhelm the setting such as Locust,
Crab, Amur Maple, River Hirch)in front of each unit.
Privacy Buffer: Rather than using berms between the townhouse
units and the single family units we propose to install a double
row of conifers such as Green or Black Hills Spruce which do well
in this area. This will help avoid the problems of trees dying due
to the lack of sufficient moisture (as too often occurs on bermed
areas where the rain does not penetrate). It would also help to
avoid some drainage problems given that swales are proposed to be
located where the privacy buffer is required.
Wetland Retention: I have had numerous discussions with Tim Pell
kat the U.S. Army Corp. of Engineers regarding this parcel and the
means in which they prefer to see the wetlands retained intact.
Our ponding areas (if feasible) will not be done in a trench type
fashion as originally shown and will have the grades completed in
accordance with the desires of the "Corp." In regard to the
directive that the townhouse association not mow the wetland area,
we will grade the ponding areas in such a manner as to prevent
mowing up to the open water. This will encourage wildlife by
creating habitat and act to filter some of the non point
pollution.
An additional amendment to the townhome association bylaws will
assist in the maintenance of the water quality within the wetland.
With this amendment the townhome development should have less
impact upon the wetland than a typical single family development.
It will restrict the applications of any fertilizers, pesticides,
and herbicides near the wetlands and require that all applications
be kept back at least twenty feet from the wetland area.
Mailboxes: Mail box designs are now dictated in part by the Post
Office serving the development. If the U.S.P.S. is attempting to
consolidate routes or reduce route delivery time (as they
frequently are) they will require consolidated boxes. In many
townhouse developments this means that one stand of mailboxes will
serve each cluster of townhouse units. The Post Office will in
those cases dictate the appearance of the mailboxes.
Street lighting: For the townhouse portion of the development, we
anticipate using a black teardrop design standard with high
pressure sodium bulbs. Spacing will be at each intersection within
the townhouse development and at the end of the cui de sacs.
Monument design: The monument design in intended to be installed
at the entrance of the townhouse area where it is most visible to
the highway traffic. It will be well landscaped and have a stone
base much Like the one located in our project in Blaine (Autumn
Woods). Timbers will support the name of the project on a rough
hewn cedar sign. The monument will not he placed in a location
that will cause it to be a hindrance to traffic visibility.