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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/12/1984 P&Z MinutesAGENDA SNNING AND ZONING BOARD September 12, 1984 1. Call to order and roll call 2. Approval of minutes 3. Buildin Official's - August 8, 1984 ,S(GA) (Y'..D- I►9G 601/4:1 CtiNj (thrJA 91alf • Report J i%= 4. 7:45 Subdivision Tom•McDonough - Sketch Plan 8:00 Amended Conditional Use Permit - House of Praise 8:15 Rezone - Roy Stanley 8:30 Metes & Bounds Conveyance Site & Building Plan Review - Bastien Products 8:45 Dog Kennels 9:00 Accessory Buildings 5. Old Business 6. New Business 7. Adjourn PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 12, Call to order and roll call Approval of minutes - August 8, 1984 Building Official's Report Q w o, M o Q ry ''i a v a U o a 4.) M v •H 4. V Ol N W 27 0 v o U a Q v Q M a, v 0 a N v a 4J U) o rj V M 3 o 0 a 3 I v -,-1 'U 'a £ o ai M x 0 0 , v v 0 'fa (14 Q •ti Q a s.4 ul O in O vl p -, w 0 "q, 0 H n1 ':I, ca 3 _ '0 o N. CO CO CO CO rn O 2 KC Al ME A '1 H N r l V' ul \ N. DATE: September 5, 1984 TO: All Planning and Zoning Board Members FROM: Peter Kluegel, Building Official SUBJECT: Regular Planning and Zoning Board Meeting The regular Planning and Zoning Board meeting will be Wednesday, September 12, 1984 at 7:30 P.M. If you cannot attend, please let me know so that I can determine if there will be a quorum. Thank you. • Planning and Zoning September 12, 1984 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 7:35 P.M. on Wednesday, September 12, 1984 by Chairman McLean. Mr. Goldade, Mr. Ostlie, Mrs. Klaus, Mr. Doocy and Mr. Cody were also present, Mr. Prokop entered the meeting at 9:20 P.M. Mr. Kluegel and Mrs. Foster were also present. MINUTES - August 8, 1984 Mr. Doocy approved the minutes as presented. Motion seconded by Mr. Goldade. On voting, Mrs. Klaus abstained, motion carried. BUILDING OFFICIAL'S REPORT Mr. Kluegel reported the following P & Z items were considered by City Council: 1) Gary and Arlene Averbeck's application for conditional use permit to operate a nursery was approved by August 13 Council, 2) Donald Wyse's application for variance in order to construct addition on his duplex was denied by August 27 Council, 3) Robert Johnson's application for conditional use permit to operate dog kennel was approved by September 10 Council per P & Z recommendations, 4) WCCO's application for amended conditional use permit to add two satellite receiving dishes was approved by September 10 Council. Mr. Kluegel also informed the Board that a public hearing has been set to be held at September 24 Council meeting at 7:30 regarding draft sign ordin- ance and that the Council requested that P & Z Board be represented at that *hearing. Chairman McLean and /or Mr. Cody agreed to attend. DOG KENNEL /ACCESSORY BUILDINGS WORK SESSIONS Chairman McLean asked that the Board at this time decide upon a date to have work session for these items. Mr. Goldade suggested that because of the interest by so many citizens in the accessory building issue that this item be considered as a ballot issue to be voted upon by all the citizens of the City. He felt that the P & Z Board should find out what sort of lead time is required to have such an item placed on the ballot. Mr. Ostlie agreed, however, no action was taken in this regard. The Board agreed to conduct a work session on Wednesday, September 19 at 7:30 at City Hall to discuss primarily the dog kennel ordinance. At that meeting, should time allow, the accessory building issue will be discussed. If time does not allow, an additional meeting time will be decided upon. REZONE REQUEST - TOM McDONOUGH Mr. McDonough appeared before the Board requesting a rezone for a parcel which he owns on Ash St. He told the Board that the City of Shoreview has sewer and water on the Shoreview side of Ash St. and that they have given the City of Lino Lakes the option of hooking up to that system in order to service residents on the Lino Lakes side of Ash St. Mr. McDonough would be willing to hook up to this proposed system with the condition that he be allowed to subdivide his property into 12 separate lots as proposed �in the sketch presented to the Board. Planning and Zoning Board September 12, 1984 Page Two III Mr. McDonough said that in speaking with Mr. Davidson, City Engineer, he was told that approval of Mr. McDonough's request would reduce the cost to other residents. Mr. Cody passed on his understanding of the sewer proposal per his conver- sation with Mr. Schumacher, City Administrator, saying that the sewer has not been approved yet and is still in the discussion stage, and will be subject to approval by the Metro Waste Control Commission. The Board's consensus was that Mr. McDonough's request was presumptuous and that consideration of his request would have to be done after a firm approval and commitment regarding the sewer proposal. The Board questioned why the staff accepted a rezone request fee from Mr. McDonough knowing the situation. Mr. Cody suggested Mr. McDonough withdraw this request and get his money back and resubmit the request when the sewer project is firm. Mr. McLean felt that at the time of the sewer approval and installation, the comprehensive plan would be changed as would the urban service district and the entired sewered area would be rezoned from the present ER to R -1, that Mr. McDonough would probably not be required to make this request on his own behalf. The Board concurred with Mr. Cody's statement that at the time of installa- tion of sewer /water to the area in question, the Board would strongly con- sider rezoning the area. AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - HOUSE OF PRAISE Tony and Peter Racchini represented the House of Praise in their request for an amended conditional use permit to allow a two - story addition to the front of their church /school building to improve the appearance of the front of the building and provide a little bit more room and also provide a means of going from the church to the basement (where Sunday school, etc. takes place) without going out of the building and reentering. The addition would also include new rest room facilities, a classroom and office space. Mr. McLean asked about the condition of the septic system. Mr. Kluegel stated that the system was extensively repaired lastspringand is in good order. Mr. Doocy asked whether there would be an increase in signage, to which Tony Racchini answered that they had not considered or dealt with signs. The Board's main concern was that of parking. The present parking facility is basically dirt and gravel. The church had planned to grade the parking lot and cover with class 5. Mr. Kluegel read the ordinance pertaining grandfathered situations, which basically said that upon consideration of amending a conditional use permit, the parking facilities would have to be brought up to date to conform to the current ordinance, which in this case would call for asphalt /concrete parking area. The church representatives questioned the economical feasibility of black - ilotopping the parking lot. The Board suggested a parking pad large enough to accommodate the usual number of cars parked there, which the representa- tives said would be approximately ten spaces. Mr. Cody moved to table consideration of amended conditional use permit • PLANNING AND ZONING September 12, 1984 Page Three for the House of Praise until submission of additional plans for a blacktop parking pad (minimum of 10 spaces) be submitted (no later than September 18). Motion seconded by Mr. Doocy, motion carried. Peter Racchini stated that he would submit the plans and the Board said they could consider the issue at their September 19 meeting and reminded Mr. Racchini that they could only make recommendations to the City Council who would be responsible to make the final approval or denial decision. Chairman McLean called for a recess at 8:45, reconvened at 8:53. ROY STANLEY - REZONE REQUEST Mr. Stanley came before the Board requesting a rezone for his 121 acres of land in order to construct some multi - family homes in an area near 35W and the Correctional Facility, which is presently zoned ER. Mr. McLean outlined a letter regarding this request from Mr. Chapman, City Planner. The Board felt this situation was very similar to the request considered earlier brought about by Mr. McDonough, in that the Board could not consider approval of such a request without first receiving a firm commitment in regard to proposed sewer in the area. Mr. Stanley and Mr. Kluegel explained the outcomes of the meetings recently IIIheld with the City the purpose of which was to come up with an agreement between the City and the developers involved in the proposed sewer in Mr. Stanley's area. The Board felt however, that no firm commitment or approval has been made, and thus, they could not take action. Mrs. Klaus moved to table consideration of Mr. Stanley's request for a rezone at least until the October meeting of the P & Z or later dependent upon the P & Z's being informed that the City Council has established the proposed sewer boundaries and a firm arrangement has been made. _ Motion seconded by Mr. Cody. Mr. Goldade suggested amending the motion to include "until a written developer's agreement exists ". Mrs. Klaus accepted Mr. Goldade's amendment. Motion carried. METES AND BOUNDS CONVEYANCE /SITE AND BUILDING PLAN REVIEW - BASTIEN PRODUCTS The Board reviewed the site and building plan presented by Bob Yauk and Frank Damon, representatives of Bastien Products. Mr. Kluegel reminded the Board that this area was recently zone to GB. Mr. Prokop entered the meeting at 9:20 P.M. The Board asked several questions, primarily regarding access by semi -truck deliveries (presently a semi would back in from Aqua Lane). Since it is planned for the future that Aqua Lane would someday be the entrance to Chain of Lakes Park, the Board felt that a loop for turning a semi should ebe available on the Bastien property. Mrs. Klaus voiced her concern regarding the fact that the Bastien property now includes a house and stucco garage which will be used by Bastien for office space. She felt that a house would not provide for "a businesslike atmosphere ". Planning and Zoning September 12, 1984 Page Four •Mr. Ostlie questioned whether the site and building plan complied with all specifications as outlined on page 40 of the City Ordinance. Mr. Kluegel said that it did comply. • It was understood that Bastien Products also is known by the name FRDY Partnership. Mr. Ostlie moved to recommend to Council that FRDY Partnership be granted their request for approval of site and building plan review and metes and bounds conveyance, providing there be a 10' X 20' covered attached drive- way /walkway connecting existing building and proposed building, and to include fencing to match the existing fencing, due south from where fence presently stops, then westward to the stucco garage. Motion seconded by Mr. Prokop, motion carried. Mr. Kluegel was asked by the Board to check into "park dedication" in this case. He agreed to check it out, he had never dealt with this in a commercial area. Mr. Goldade asked that Mr. Kluegel deal with signage for directions to semi drivers to eliminate backing into either Aqua Lane or Lake Drive. Mr. Kluegel said he would see that appropriate signage go into place. Bastien Products representatives were informed that their request would be considered by City Council, with P & Z recommendations, at their September 24 meeting. OLD BUSINESS Mr. Kluegel reported that the Park Board discussed the LaMotte Park vaca- tion issue at their September 10 meeting and decided to request a joint meeting with the Planning and Zoning Board to try to come up with a deci- sion regarding LaMotte Park. Mr. McLean asked that this issue be placed on the Planning and Zoning Board's agenda for October (at beginning of the meeting) and that Mr. Kluegel inform those interested Park Board members and concerned citizens. • Mrs. Klaus asked if anyone knew why the Council did not include lighting requirements when approving the transmission tower amendment at their July 23 Council meeting. The Council minutes noted that there was dis- cussion regarding lighting, but no requirements were added to the amendment, and she felt that this is something that the P & Z may have overlooked and possibly should have been added. Mr. McLean informed Mr. Kluegel that he has seen a semi parked along Ash St. recently. Mr. Ostlie reported seeing a semi on a private drive on Lake Drive. Mr. Kluegel agreed to check these areas. Mr. Prokop questioned the width of the roads being constructed in the West Oaks area and wanted Mr. Davidson to be reminded that as engineer, he is not to approve any widths other than those called for by ordinance. Mr. Kluegel agreed to inquire and make sure road widths are per ordinance. Mr. Prokop also asked why it was necessary to cut so far back into the Evans property in the Reiling Road project. He asked for an answer from John Davidson. Planning and Zoning September 12, 1984 Page Five •Mr. Doocy reminded Mr. Kluegel that the A -Well business is still an eyesore with junk cars, etc. all around. Mr. Kluegel is aware of the situation and said he would see what he could do about it. Mr. Kluegel reminded the Board that the City will be going to court on October 3 regarding the Roland Ford property. NEW BUSINESS None. Mr. Prokop moved to adjourn at 10:20 P.M., seconded by Mr. Goldade. Motion carried. • •