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1 23 January 12, 1981 Mr: Benson said he felt that questions on the following topics have not been answered; 1) water; 2) Centerville Fire Department; 3) the green area; 4) Redreation facilities; 5) trees (inabiltiy to grow); 6) area harmony; 7) consistent with neighborhood. Mr. Schumacher read letters from the Centerville Fire Department, School Dist. #12, County Highway Department and MNDOT, indicating these agencies have no major concerns with this development. Mr. Jaworski pointed out some points in the motion - 1) the fact that this development is not in conformance with the current zoning - that is why there is an application for a special use permit; 2) density, as Mr. Johnson had computed at 14.6 persons per quad, this used 3 & 4 bedrooms. These quads, as proposed are on,ly 2 bedroom units - the density figure is out of line, per a letter from Metropolitan Council. 3) Mr. Johnson said the water table is 0 to 2 feet - Mr. Jaworski noted that he had an Engineer's report that said the water table is 0 to 14 feet with the average being 7 to 14 feet. Mrs. Elsenpeter disagreed with Mr. Johnson's statement that these buildings would tower over existing homes - these buildings are only 24' from ground level - single family homes can also reach that height. Mayor Gourley noted that Mr. Johnson's motion referred to this development as being a detriment to the Lake - there is no testimony at either meeting supporting this; that this development would lower property values - it would be necessary to have a certi- fied appraiser do an appraisal of the area to determine this factor - there has been no testimony to this fact at either meeting; that this development would be a finan- cial burden to the City of Lino Lakes - Mayor Gourley pointed out this would increase the users of the sewer system and would make the system self- supporting - the cost of operating that system has been borne by the citizens of the City since it went into op- eration; Mayor Gourley noted that several of the Planning and Zoning Board members felt this matter should be dealt with by the Courts - and pointed out it will be dealt with by the Courts no matter which way the Council votes. He pointed out that this Council has been attacked for considering the installation of a water system for that area - tonight the Council was criticized for not having adequate water in the area at, the present time. Mayor Gourley noted that there had been expert testimony at this meeting that refutes the figures on density in Mr. Johnson's motion. This showed -there is only an estimated difference of 23 persons from R -1 to Quads. Mr. McLean commended the Planning and Zoning for doing an in depth study on a difficult project. He did not feel that a Special use permit was proper - this should be rezoned requiring the 2/3's majority vote. Mr. McLean moved to deny the special use permit for the proposed quad project in that it is not in conformance with the Proposed Comprehensive Plan as R -1; the proposed density concentration on 294' of shoreline would have a negative effect due the use concentra- tion of lake shore and natural environment of the area. Mr. McLean did not feel that the Park and Recreation facilities are adequate for the density proposed due to the distance to the neighboring facilites 1) across the Lake and 2) the Shenandoah Park. Also, water facilities available will be marginal under heavy fire use requirements. Also, the high water table readings in the area will require buildings without basements and that the aggregate mass of quad buildings will then provide an unharmonious sight line to the home owners. Seconded by Mr. Kulaszewicz. On a roll call vote - Mr. Kulaszewicz - Yes; Mr. Jaworski - No; Mr. McLean - Yes; Mrs. Elsenpeter - No; Mayor Gourley - No. Motion failed.