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1 <br />23 <br />January 12, 1981 <br />Mr: Benson said he felt that questions on the following topics have not been answered; <br />1) water; 2) Centerville Fire Department; 3) the green area; 4) Redreation facilities; <br />5) trees (inabiltiy to grow); 6) area harmony; 7) consistent with neighborhood. Mr. <br />Schumacher read letters from the Centerville Fire Department, School Dist. #12, County <br />Highway Department and MNDOT, indicating these agencies have no major concerns with <br />this development. Mr. Jaworski pointed out some points in the motion - 1) the fact that <br />this development is not in conformance with the current zoning - that is why there is <br />an application for a special use permit; 2) density, as Mr. Johnson had computed at <br />14.6 persons per quad, this used 3 & 4 bedrooms. These quads, as proposed are on,ly 2 <br />bedroom units - the density figure is out of line, per a letter from Metropolitan Council. <br />3) Mr. Johnson said the water table is 0 to 2 feet - Mr. Jaworski noted that he had <br />an Engineer's report that said the water table is 0 to 14 feet with the average being <br />7 to 14 feet. <br />Mrs. Elsenpeter disagreed with Mr. Johnson's statement that these buildings would tower <br />over existing homes - these buildings are only 24' from ground level - single family <br />homes can also reach that height. <br />Mayor Gourley noted that Mr. Johnson's motion referred to this development as being a <br />detriment to the Lake - there is no testimony at either meeting supporting this; that <br />this development would lower property values - it would be necessary to have a certi- <br />fied appraiser do an appraisal of the area to determine this factor - there has been <br />no testimony to this fact at either meeting; that this development would be a finan- <br />cial burden to the City of Lino Lakes - Mayor Gourley pointed out this would increase <br />the users of the sewer system and would make the system self- supporting - the cost of <br />operating that system has been borne by the citizens of the City since it went into op- <br />eration; Mayor Gourley noted that several of the Planning and Zoning Board members felt <br />this matter should be dealt with by the Courts - and pointed out it will be dealt with <br />by the Courts no matter which way the Council votes. He pointed out that this Council <br />has been attacked for considering the installation of a water system for that area - <br />tonight the Council was criticized for not having adequate water in the area at, the <br />present time. <br />Mayor Gourley noted that there had been expert testimony at this meeting that refutes <br />the figures on density in Mr. Johnson's motion. This showed -there is only an estimated <br />difference of 23 persons from R -1 to Quads. <br />Mr. McLean commended the Planning and Zoning for doing an in depth study on a difficult <br />project. He did not feel that a Special use permit was proper - this should be rezoned <br />requiring the 2/3's majority vote. <br />Mr. McLean moved to deny the special use permit for the proposed quad project in that it <br />is not in conformance with the Proposed Comprehensive Plan as R -1; the proposed density <br />concentration on 294' of shoreline would have a negative effect due the use concentra- <br />tion of lake shore and natural environment of the area. Mr. McLean did not feel that <br />the Park and Recreation facilities are adequate for the density proposed due to the <br />distance to the neighboring facilites 1) across the Lake and 2) the Shenandoah Park. <br />Also, water facilities available will be marginal under heavy fire use requirements. <br />Also, the high water table readings in the area will require buildings without basements <br />and that the aggregate mass of quad buildings will then provide an unharmonious sight <br />line to the home owners. Seconded by Mr. Kulaszewicz. On a roll call vote - Mr. <br />Kulaszewicz - Yes; Mr. Jaworski - No; Mr. McLean - Yes; Mrs. Elsenpeter - No; Mayor <br />Gourley - No. Motion failed. <br />
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