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COUNCIL MINUTES FEBRUARY 10, 2003 <br />APPROVED <br />•1 uncomfortable applying it to small property owners. She is afraid they will not be able to subdivide, <br />2 but a bigger developer could purchase the property as part of another development and subdivide it. <br />3 <br />4 Mayor Bergeson stated he feels the frontage requirement is good in the ordinance, his question would <br />5 be how much frontage should be required. He indicated he does not want to get in the business of <br />6 creating lots that do not have frontage. <br />7 <br />8 Community Development Director Grochala stated this is intended to protect the public from <br />9 incurring costs to improve roads later. He stated that whether it is two lots or ten, the suggestion is <br />10 you will have a public road to access your home. He indicated the cost gets thrown on the public <br />11 when the cost should be handled up front. He stated private roads are not the best either, but the City <br />12 does have some townhomes with association maintained roads. <br />13 <br />14 Councilmember Carlson stated she was looking at the Stage 1 growth area after 2010, which could be <br />15 subdivided into large parcels like Keefe, with only two lots. She indicated it makes more sense to put <br />16 in the road when the property moves into low density sewer, and do the sewer and water at the same <br />17 time. She stated she looked for the improved street definition, but did not see it. She indicated if we <br />18 require improved streets to put in two lots, it prevents landowners from doing it, because the costs are <br />19 too high for two lots. <br />20 <br />21 Community Development Director Grochala asked if it was too expensive for the landowner to do, do <br />22 you want the City to have the burden. He stated the Keefe property was a 40 acre parcel with <br />23 frontage, subdivided years ago, with no access, creating problem one. Fifteen years later another 10 <br />• <br />24 acres was divided off without public access, now there are three lots out there, and everyone says <br />25 'Poor Keefe doesn't have a public street'. Some of these problems we have created for ourselves and <br />26 we need to prevent more. <br />27 <br />28 Councilmember Carlson indicated the house on the ten acres is forty years old. She understands the <br />29 need for public streets, but it seems like it will not allow landowners like Keefe to subdivide. <br />30 <br />31 Mayor Bergeson indicated there is a public responsibility to not create situations where there is no <br />32 access for emergency vehicles, etc. He indicated there are some situations in the City already that we <br />33 have to live with, but for new subdivisions it is important to have adequate access for emergency <br />34 vehicles. <br />35 <br />36 City Planner Smyser indicated one of the problems is that in Minnesota cities are not allowed to <br />37 charge improvement fees. What this means is you cannot charge a person for something that will <br />38 help them but is not attached to their property, so taxpayers end up paying. By not requiring frontage <br />39 road, that is the problem that is set up. He indicated the landowners are making money off the <br />40 property when they sell part of it, they have to pay for that right. The City has to maintain a proper <br />41 infrastructure, and if we do not require road improvements at development, we may not be able to <br />42 later. The purpose of planning and regulating is to try to avoid these situations. He indicated that <br />43 while this may mean saying no to some people we would want to say yes to, it is not fair to make the <br />44 taxpayers anti up later. <br />45 <br />46 Councilmember Carlson indicated that page 1006.4 refers to a change in how minor subdivisions are <br />gib 47 approved. She indicated that City Planner Smyser had mentioned there are only about three per year, <br />48 so she is wondering why it is necessary to change the procedure for such few cases. <br />15 <br />
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