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COUNCIL MINUTES APRIL 28, 2003 <br />APPROVED <br />765 <br />•66 Councilmember Carlson asked if this would affect new constructions or all buildings. Fire Chief <br />767 Bennett indicated it would cover new construction, or additions to existing, at the time the permit was <br />768 requested. Anything currently in progress would be under the old code. <br />769 <br />770 Councilmember Reinert asked how a building that is not a commercial use, can be called commercial <br />771 due to the size. Fire Chief Bennett indicated he did not know, but reiterated aircraft hangars were <br />772 specifically identified. Councilmember Reinert stated that because they were specifically identified, <br />773 it tells him there is a reason that the Council is unaware of. <br />774 <br />775 Fire Chief Bennett indicated that he knows in Blaine they had a lot of businesses being run out of the <br />776 hangars that had nothing to do with airplanes. He also reminded the Council that this is an <br />777 International code, not even just Minnesota code. <br />778 <br />779 Councilmember Reinert clarified that seven residents will be affected, and forced to spend money to <br />780 sprinkle. Mayor Bergeson indicated they would only have to comply if they expand or build a new <br />781 hangar. He asked what the maximum size was for hangars at the airpark. City Planner Smyser <br />782 indicated 3200 square feet. <br />783 <br />784 Glen Martig, 376 Carl Street, indicated he has a hangar, but for the seven current owners and the 18 <br />785 future owners, most of the hangars do not have heat, and it is very expensive to put in a system that <br />786 will not freeze. <br />787 <br />88 Karl Johnson, 314 Carl Street, learned only on April 15 that the fire code had been changed and <br />W89 demands placed on the hangar owners. He reiterated that the cost of suppression exceeds the cost of <br />790 construction in most cases. He spoke with someone in the building department to ask for a permit, <br />791 and was told that the City would only grandfather for 10 days after the March 31 State adoption date, <br />792 which had already passed. There was no chance for him to apply. <br />793 <br />794 Fire Chief Bennett indicated the State adopted the building code on March 31, but Chapter 1306 is <br />795 optional. The City currently has a chapter 1306, but without hangars specifically mentioned. City <br />796 Attorney Hawkins confirmed permits should be allowed for 30 days after it is adopted and published <br />797 by Lino Lakes. City Administrator Waite Smith suggested Mr. Johnson talk to the Community <br />798 Development Director about a permit. <br />799 <br />800 Mr. Johnson indicated he also spoke with someone from MAC, who said they are only aware of a <br />801 handful of fires in 13 years, among 800 hangars that are under the jurisdiction of MAC. He has been <br />802 told they were unaware the code was changing from 5000 square feet to 2000 square feet, and MAC <br />803 said they only sprinkled at 10,000 square feet. <br />804 <br />805 Councilmember O'Donnell stated this does not make sense, and in trying to find a short-term solution, <br />806 they may create issues down the road. He asked if the Fire Chief believes private hangars greater <br />807 than 2000 square feet should be sprinkled. Fire Chief Bennett replied that if they had a fire, there <br />808 would be nothing he could do. He stated they have previously been unsuccessful extinguishing fires <br />809 in pole barns. He reiterated that he did not choose to have hangars included in this code, but does not <br />810 see an option to take it out. It is part of the whole package of Chapter 1306. He noted Blaine has the <br />11 same ordinance. <br />W812 <br />17 <br />
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