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I ��uq.�nal ) �° � 0(0 L1PPftOWED: 2/27106 being added to the Code. / The Planner said a walk-up window would probably be okay. Commissioner Deziel said limited full table service operation is already in there. The Planner would add it to the definition of restaurants in another part of the Code. Commissioner Van Zandt said he lived five blocks off Grand Avenue for 22 years. There was an empty lot there. The City would not allow a restaurant applicant to go in there and instead allowed a drug store there that resulted in putting a smaller drug store out of business. If we don't allow some businesses here to thrive and remain competitive, we will lose our significant businesses. We should look for compromises. Commissioner Armstrong said we are helping our businesses by disallowing menu boards and intercoms. We want to exclude fast food while allowing a business like Gorman's to continue. We always have to look at the big picture. If there are other ways to distinguish fast food, he would like to here about them. M/S/P, Ptacek/Schneider direct staff to publish a revised definition of restaurants in order to allow drive -up service adjacent to full service table restaurant as a conditional use in the General Business Zone as the Planner drafted. Commissioner Ptacek said the CUP gives us opportunity to review space for traffic stacking. Commissioner Fliflet said she does not see the need for allowing menu board and intercom when other restaurants are doing great carside to go business. She sees no need to change the Code to allow it.. She also agrees with Commissioners Armstrong and Ptacek as to protecting our existing restaurants. Commissioner Park said she sees how a drive -up window could work. She often gets carside to go. Ed Gorman Mr. Gorman said he has owned Gorman's Restaurant for 26 years. He does not sell liquor. He has enough room to stack traffic. The proposed addition is only 200 square feet and 100 square feet of it is for adding more ice cream flavors. There are only three restaurants in the GB zone in Lake Eli -no. He has been doing this work for forty years and the industry is changing. The window without the intercom is less convenient for customers. Commissioner Deziel asked how we exclude fast food if we approve what Mr. Gorman requests. Mr. Gorman said the Health Department classifies his business as Table Business. Traffic flow would be fine on his site, and it would be a natural fit. Commissioner Ptacek pointed out that it takes no longer if someone talks at the window or uses an intercom. Commissioner Fliflet said people walked up to the window at the old Dairy Queens. PASSED: 7:2 Nay — Fliflet and Pelletier -Because the restaurant owner we talked to had inferred his disinterest in anything other than a message board and intercom. We voted against those so