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Tim Freeman, developer representative for Heritage Farm, talked to Bruce Folz who helped develop Eden Park and there were no ulterior plans other than for future roadway. The topography has a high area and then low making it difficult to get through to Manning, compounded with buildings. Even with the buildings gone, it's too narrow to make a roadway. This location is a difficult one because of the site distance. Would not get approval by Washington County for a road. Have to look at how would this property be reasonably developed. No one is proposing to build a road. Have options if you don't vacate. Tim Mandel stated there is a process in code for vacating easements. If the road easements make no sense, then get rid of them. Placing a road would ruin the neighborhood. He wants to keep strong property values. Tracy Little, Heritage Farm resident, concerned on an outlet off the north side. The outlet would spoil the rural setting, open space, and quality of life. He was not aware this was a consideration at this time. A road would endanger the children playing because the roads are narrow. Administrator Kueffner stated the road easement is already there. The Council did discuss posting this road for future extension, but did not make this a requirement. There is no proposal by Mr. Johnson to develop. He wants to keep fanning, but at the same time keep access to his property. Brian Billingsly, Heritage Farm resident, did not know about the proposed road extension. The residents should be informed and is not in favor of connecting the streets. Mayor Hunt closed the public hearing at 8:30 p.m. Council member Dunn stated she is a proponent of vacating this street and the children's safety in Heritage Farm and Eden Park. Even with the street vacation, an access still can be maintained for the area. Council member Armstrong stated Augustine's farm is a beautiful piece of land. The City should not assume other people would want to attach to neighbor's land. There is adequate roadway from Legion Avenue from the Henning property and would favor vacating this road. Council member DeLapp pointed out the comp plan is not done. The zoning now allows two houses on the property and they already have two houses. By ghost platting, we can make better developments. Attorney Filla suggested surveying the portion of Lisbon being vacated so the Council can accurately describe it in a resolution for approval. The City may find that the paved area in the right-of-way could be encroaching on other property, which could be attached to additional property owners. M/S/P DeLapp/Dunn — to survey the portion of Lisbon Avenue south of 25"' street easement section and 25"' street to the east to be vacated, create a resolution that accurately describes unimproved portion of Lisbon and 25"' Street, and the cul-de-sac, and bring back to the June 201h meeting or the July 18"' meeting based on these street easements have not been exercised in 3 years, there was not a demonstrated need to serve as a public service, and the Johnson adjoining property could be adequately served by alternate accesses. (Motion passed 4-0.) The City will pay for the cost of the survey because if the roads are not in place, the City should have to pay for the correction. Tom Prew thought there might be enough markings so a survey may not be needed. C. 2000-2010 Comprehensive Plan Update (old village planning area) Council member Dunn did not want to double or triple the Old Village and was cautious when the City talks high densities. The Old Village should be looked at as it exists, review variances needed for people to expand, and then decide how should City handle them. The Council should look at the MN design team video. The thought was not to double population in the Old Village proper and wasn't putting 1200 people in this area to make the Met Council happy. Wants to stay a freestanding community. LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES JUNE 6, 2000 4