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CITY COUNCIL, COMPREfTENSIVE PLAN HEARING, JULY 18, 1.979 —3— Peter Hutchinson —Dayton Pudson— Plan goes on to assume growth is based on the assumption that sewer will not be available, before 1990. Questioned desirability of increasing growth, developemnt and density in an area where there is already a problem, flooding Arad water. Presented a, copy of the final draft of the comp plan with specific su#>Testions concerning use inside and outside the MTJSA line. Bob Souls — 3M -- At this time he was not prepared to make a final response. 3M received no notification. Based on his inability to respond 3M is in opposition to this plan at this time. Desires to meet with the City Planner and have a chance to review the proposed plan. Requested the public hearing be kept open until they have an opportunity to respond. Bruce Odlar* — United Properties — Mr. Od,lag submitted a letter from Mr. Stensby with specific .recommendations. Desires this letter be made part of the record. for the City Council and the PZC. They recommend the City develop and use their sewer capacity. Their property is designated residential on the plan, but across the street Is a motel and existing commercial, is at the other end. Residential should not be proposed inbetween. Depth of the commercial should be increased. Development extension is propbsed..post 1990'. They feel this extension should be now. They also feel a 500fto depth strip will create unruly and poor planning;. A conservancy area is also indicated for their pracel. The reason being the topography of their property. They believe other areas have moderate constraints due to the topography eg. areas where services roads are proposed to be. They recommend this area be removed and commercial be indicated all along hwy. 12, ]Toward Dahlgren — Dayton Hudson — Feels the City has a great opportunityto plan for the future and determine how it can design its commercial area. The City must plan to a minimum of 1990 but encourage them to plan beyond this. Future planning must be done In order to keep commercial areas out of residential and. visaversa. Planning property can keep taxes low and still achieve growth. Sewer and water can be brought in slowly. Should have a total through —of —fare plan. By a 1-7 per 40 the City is going to get scattered residential development These people will still need and require the same services as higher density. The City will not achieve -the economics they are driving for. He recommends planning development inside the MUSA line. It does not make sense to deny sewer capacity until 1990 when this is available now. Plan for the development within the MUSA befoe 1990 and plan the need for PUD. Steve Raleigh — The real purpose of the plan is not what will happen where, not what will happen when; but how much development would we like and how much development will we allow. Each person who spoke asked to develop their property. The potential is much greater than the City Council, or the City would like to see. Would not like to see a population of 20,000 in 1990. Lake Elmo is primarly a community of homes. Submit these peoples interest should be the primary concern. Feels that if the City allowed all the houses be built' in this community that developers would like to build this place would look like downtown St. Paul. DickDCoster — Stated constitutents elected you on basis of non —development and what we have here indicates this, Would ,you allow us to leave? Would this City be agreeable to a petition annexing property to Woodbury or Oakdale? Mrs. Meehan — We have always had the previous Plan. Why are ,you turning -this over and changing all that has been proposed for 20 ,years. The zoning map has been good for. 20 years, why is this still not so? M r Armstro indicated that population estimates for Lake Elmo fall fax short of what actually is. Previous plans has been based on these projections. Mrs. Meehan "stated what the City is trying to do now they should have done 25 years ago. What can you do with ITOA, it will not raise anything? Bill Stouvenal — Feels the problem with the plan is mostly in design. Suggests those who are preparing it Look at it objectively with no special interests and. determine what is -the logical way for Lake Elmo -to grow. FA Stevens — Commenting on Me. Stouvenals comments — he is suggesting the PZC ad the City Council should do -this plan as the they do not live here. He is looking at it f mm-abusiness and a businessmans point of views 'From:a""taxpayers point of view he objects and is in full agreement with the proposed plan.