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Special City Council Meeting, September 18, 1980 Surface Water Use Mayor Armstrong opened the meeting and gave;.the background of why the Council called this meeting to set guidelines and restrictions on recreaction on the lakes. Administrator Whittaker outlined the facts, explained potential problems, and reviewed the City's Surface Water Use Ordinance. The Council is requesting resident input and suggi�stions to guide the City in adopting policies and regulations that will make the use of then.lakes in Lake Elmo and their accesses, controllable without penalizing lakeshore & City residents. The Administrator also outlined the City's position on the Regional Park. AUDIENCE REMARKS: Otto Mayer - 9295 Lake Jane Tr. - Presented a petition with 20 to 25 signatures, of residents around Lake Jane, requesting that Lake Jane be restricted to a speed zone of 5 mph at all times. Sue Wier - 8991 Jane Rd. N. - Comment on the petition - had the petition presented to her, they did not sign,it but noted that not all the petitioners do not live on Lake Jane. OttoMayer - 9295 Lake Jane Tr. - Stated that the petitioners listed may_ n6t live on the lake, but have access to the lake. Todd Williams - 3025 Lake Elmo Avenue N. - Asked if it is State law that the C ti y cannot adopt an ordinance giving special treatment to riparian owners. Armstrong stated this is a DNR Policy not sure of the legal status. Mr. Williams referred to articles in the paper about lack of access to metropolitan lakes,e.g. White Bear Lake, which do have ordinance and policies granting special rights to lake - shore owners. Asked if the City could not pass this type of ordinance; that would restrict non-lakeshore owners boat and motor size and give special. rights to lakeshore owners. Challenge the DNR policy and stand behind it. Armstrong stated this is an economic question and you are fighting the State of Minnesota. Lake Elmo is not financially able to pursue such 'battles'. Whittaker stated there is a Public Waters law in effect that states the waters in the State belong to all, the people and you cannot discriminate among them. This is the basis of this DNR policy. Williams said this would not restrict the access to the waters but the use of the waters: Armstrong cited the regulations similar to this suggestion are in force on Square Lake, this access is run by the County and enforced by them. Lake Elmo is telling the County this is what they should do on Lake Elmo - regulate and design the access so that people who come out to the County park only use small craft or small motors. Speed regulation is difficult without a shore patrol. Iiarvey Allen 249.1 Lake Elmo Avenue - Stated DNR restricts motor size in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, but give exemptions to businesses. Does not feel an ordinance with exceptions would be out of line. Carol Kelm_ - 10975 32nd St. N. - lives on the lake and is aware of abuses on the lake from people who live on the lake. Does not feel lakeshore owners should have any more priviledges. Horsepower reg- ulations should apply to everyone who uses the lake.