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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 21.9 1980 _12_ Al Dornfield replied, I guess, you would have to show us that storing water on the north side of 70 is not practical. I also think ,you hve some storage on the golf course by plugging some so ..m sewers. The simplist way is pumping it downstream, no doubt; but I don't think it is the simplist way for those downstream. Councilman Morgan replied the Council is well aware of being downstream. Part of the reason there is a problem is because there is not more storage sites up —stream. 11hey have a problem up —stream from us but It is not stored. 1200 people live in Cimarron; and, they own their homes. If pumping 60A -feet would protect those homes, I thing, we ought to look for a place to put it. Mr., Taylor responded to the question of storing water on the,golf course. We have approximately 20A on the golf course. You would have to build a dike 3 ft. high all around the golf course and fill the entire course with 3 feet of a water. It is extremely .flat. George hedges asked about flooding existing bonds at the back of Cimarroris property. A resident: responded one small ponding area eould not take more than 2 ft. or the homes would flood. George hedges said these are the questions asked. Ilow much can be held on —site before we start .facing the already flooded situation downstream. No way will it be acceptable to have anyone put out of their homes. Armstrong noted the other problem is the 30 days, How much, time do we have to study all this. There is no time to got all feasibility reports. Mottaz said, exploring on —site and alternate storage should be done; but aver -the winter and. next spring when the danger is over with. He does not think, under the present circumstances and given the time frame and the length of time it takes to do studies, that we should. be developing ponding areas in Cimarron now. We risk winter freeze—up then no pumping / can be done anywhere. l John Leslie, 3M Club, wanted the record to show — He feels Cimarron has been very negligent because 10 years ago exactly the same situation was brough to their attention. It was suggested then they construct a dike and make provision for just this situation. I think, they have been very negligent in the last 10 years. This was brought up to them very emphatically in the Darr Lhgin.eering report, The report said that the dike should be put at an 884 level completely around the sewage plant, in anticipation of such a runs -off as this. Armstrong noted this work is being done now. Since that report there have been many changes,and circumstances the new owners may not have been aware of. Mary Leslie asked about a storage site on the property west of Cimarron. ['here is a natural depression there and Valley Branch has sited this as property that would have to outlet through Sunfish. Does a drain exist there? Dick Stockstead, property owner to the west — They have agreed to store for two 100 year floods. Mary .Leslie said another consideration is Downs Lake which previously flowed through Tartan Park. Downs is not suppose to flow 'through Tartan Park., It is suppose to flow east through Lake Elmo; but in 'that outlet there have been trees planted in the last -two years and a home constructed in close proximity, which may be endangered if the water flows out that way. The people on. the pond, in the middle, are already having problems with spring run—off into the pond, with it backing up onto the drainage easement. If it comes through Tartan Park what guarantee is there for relief to Tartan Park. This would take out their entire golf course. Mottaz said this is not part of this issue.