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PLANNING COMMISSION/COUNCIL JOINT MEETING, CCTOBER 12, 1981 -7- It. 20'd Fundin - MU ttaker noted Lake Elmo's concern that Federal monies may be withheld or cancelled construction grants for waste water treatment plants for 1982; and asked if any additional information was available. He reviewed Lake Elmo's status on the 201 Study. --Hughes - Unfortunate the Federal dollars will not be available and would be very difficult for the State to make up the difference; but that does not mean the State should not be concerned about Federal/State relations and let the people know at the Federal level how critical it is. State should look at it, determine what: the cost might be and possibly consider some State/Local commitment. Levi - If Federal money dries up and the standards do not;simply to comply with Federal law in some cases, the State will have to help. 5. Metro Watershed District - 1006 Whittaker asked ivied ru,,user about her interest in having a District Watershed District. .-.Hawser - .indicated she had no comment or opinion, at this time. Is interested in looking at it. Would like to see planning tied to what is happening in the Watershed -Districts. --Levi - Briefly reviewed her 7 County Metropolitan Area Storm Management Bill; and expressed her position on protecting our water resources. Discussion included jurisdiction responsibilities, water quantity and duality preservation of wetlands, community responsibility, future planning vs immediate problems. 6. Gun Club Mottaz requested help from the legislators in drawing up guidelines and/or standards in setting up, establishing, and controling gun clubs, rifle ranges, etc. He believes there should be State wide control so all rules apply State wide --Levi - Noted there was legislation in 1979 to do away with the authorization given to -the PCA to enforce noise standards for the State. Much eontroversary, bill passed unaminously, --Mottaz - Not just noise - distance from residential areas, kinds of guns used, necessary safety precautions, types of targets, lead deposits in a concentrated area. Presently No guidelines to set standards. --Hughes - .Agrees - should be looked at and ,get all expertise possible - check other States for legislation. Should be parameters set up. --Levi - in testimoney that was heard many did not want State regulations - many communities want to set thbix own standards. Felt more restrictive standards could be challenged if. the State standards were more lenient. --Whittaker - Noted that the City was referred to the RU on questions concerning problem areas with Lake Elmols Gun Club - they were of no help on the noise or safety factors and did net want to assume responsibility for setting guidelines. --Mottaz - Presently there is nothing for communities to base or draw up any standards from. --Levi - The base of the testimony was that the looations, terrain, and use of gun clubs vary so much that local special use permits better lay out what is acceptable. 7. MA Vaxiance and Plans Mayor Eder explained Lake Elmo's request for a VISA variance, under the new procedure authorized under a change in State Statute, that was denied. --Whittaker - Issue is does the standard make any sense - He reviewed the process taken by the City, following the procedure; and. noted the lack of communication and information on the part of the State on applying for a variance or appealing the denial. The operating procedure should include advising applicants that if their application is denied they can apply for a variance and if the variance is denied then advise them they have 30 days to file for a contested case hearing.