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LAKE ELMO COUNCIL MEETING - 7/5/83 Page 3 •bill Brass -at meeting 2 months ago, big concern was to have plowing done for emergency vehicles all the way to cul-de-sac - 10 homeowners on road and only 2 plowed it. (Bohrer - if either proposal were accepted, City would maintain. If 22' road accepted, there would be some erosion and I don't think City would be responsible for that.) * Jim Weyer - pavement instead of gravel would create substantially more runoff. (Bohrer - gravel you have is so firmly packed and grade so steep, difference would be minimal.) o Jim Holmberg - I have water problem now and I understand this will be contained as part of project. It takes half my lot right now. (Bohrer - if it exceeds drainage easement, water would be collected and put in holding pond. 22' road would have crown in middle so runoff would be on both north and south sides.) o Majority of those present contended that City maintained road up until about 7 years ago and one wondered if it would be possible for City to do this again without improvement. (Eder - When Krause developed land in 1963-64, standards were nonexistent, he didn't want to put in street, and buyers wanted private road; it was deeded to the City but not accepted because of cost of maintenance. There are many examples of roads maintained by private citizens --such as Jane Road until improvements made. Have no knowledge City ever maintained it.) o Eder - City can't act unless there's a petition. 9. NEUDAHL PLAT - (REF: Letter from Dennis F. Peck of J.P. Homes Inc. to Laurence Whittaker dated 6/30/83.) Mr. Peck reiterated statements and concerns in the referenced letter. Essentially, they want (a) to request City to t possibly install Jane Road Circle North, or take a part of roadway, as part of this project since it would benefit City and allow the Neudahl's an easier way to develop their property, knowing that there would be assessments to benefiting lots, security pledges, etc.; and (b) to propose development in phases (phase I would be the platted Lot 1, Block 1, and phase II would be the improvement of lots abutting Jane Road Circle North and 2 lots east of Lot 1, Block 1); under phase II, Jane Road Circle North would constitute a 1000-foot long cul-de-sac requiring a variance from the 800-foot maximum allowed. He also explained a more modest plan if above is not viable. There's also possibility of extending Jerome Avenue. Problems that have to be dealt with are existing topography, drainage problems, flooding of Lake Jane this spring. How much do we have to address now? Would like to defer until one or two lots are platted. o Eder - would be significant departure for City to finance projects and this has not been done in the past. We need direction from engineering and planner. o Fraser - would not want to foster change in present policy. o Dunn - am against public financing of such private development projects. o Bohrer - preliminary plan has shown there is sufficient area for ponding even though not developed yet (such as streets are conveyance for runoff, etc.). Often one lot is approved with understanding that drainage program is put in when remaining lots are development but it's judgment call. e Folz - Jerome Avenue was planned as through street; if street were extended, storm sewer catch basin would be planned. Policy has been that developer does drainage and streets;/are done by person who requests or needs them. y Bohrer - drainage and ponding can be constructed in phases but needs long- range plan. 10. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS A. Klawitter Rezoning - Don Wolf, representing the Klawitter's, discussed rezoning the Klawitter property (48 acres on SW corner of Keats and Highway 36)