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JOINT WORKSHOP MINUTES BETWEEN LAKE ELMO AND OAKDALE 3 DECEMBER 17, 1991 Dick Herold: I have talked to the DNR, Core of Engineers and if you follow their rules you can get a permit. I have talked to Armstrongs about it. They said they had to see it, but didn't say they were opposed to it. I talked to Mr. Kirvida about the concept, but didn't talk to him about wetland replacements. Wisnewski: We hear you in terms of the parkway concept. We can work on the 45 mph and see what we can do there. It may take special legislation. In terms of the parkway itself we have to look at the design in terms of median. We may have to take additional right-of-way width to accommodate those tree clumps. It may end up being something that separates for a short distance, wider and then come back together. If we do that, this means additional right-of-way. Herold: Would like to see a depressed median as opposed to a raised median. Mottaz: If we can have a low speed treeway as a parkway going thru downtown St. Paul and So. of St. Paul, I can't see why we have an insurmountable problem here in trying to put in a few trees and making something attractive going thru Washington County. Wisnewski: We will go back and look into what we can do to provide that separation between the two lanes and come back to you right after the first of the year. We want to make it a 1992 project. Mottaz: I would like to see a four lane. We can have it so that it is a parkway type design. Something attractive like Hilton Trail, County Rd 36, with more plantings in it. Dick Johnson: I am in favor of the parkway design and would like to see lower speeds. In concept. I reserve judgement. If you come back with something with green dots on it and say that you have been to the County landscape designers, this is unreasonable to me. Oakdale: I think we can support those things with the mitigation being as close to Armstrong Lake as we can possibly be, either north or south. If you would consider some other type of program for the divided strip with or without the extensive landscape, I think there are certain plants that would be better than others and would be attractive. Wisnewski: We will try our darndest. It is an important roadway to us and we know it is important to you. Mayor Johnson: I think we have a consensus here on the two councils to go ahead and go forward with this thing with the stipulation that definitely we have a boulevard or parkway type of appearance to it and 45 mph speed limit.