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the cities. He stated that deal was not honored for more than a year, and in exchange for that they <br /> have ended up with the sales tax on city purchases, which, in his opinion, is a tax on a tax. He <br /> stated, as will many things in government, once it occurs, it seems to be very difficult to change. <br /> He stated it is placed on the books as an expenditure, and it appears to be in tens of millions of <br /> dollars,and the process of eliminating this particular provision is not so glamorous,nor does it strike <br /> so close to home, as a rebate does. He stated it has become somewhat of a philosophical struggle, <br /> and an ongoing issue,which does come up publicly in the Committee discussion. He stated people <br /> do attempt to address it,but they have not been successful in changing it at this point in time. He <br /> stated the direct answer to Mayor Coughlin's question is that the tax on city purchases is still there, <br /> and still being debated, however, it is yet to be resolved. <br /> Mayor Coughlin clarified for the residents that this is a provision that requires cities to pay sales tax <br /> on purchases. He stated the residents are taxed to fund the City, and out of those funds purchases <br /> are made,upon which a state tax is applied. He stated there has been some effort to eliminate that <br /> tax on city purchases,which would essentially reduce the cost of local government. <br /> Senator Novak stated that it had occurred to him that they have an entire generation of Legislators <br /> who have never had to vote for a tax increase. He stated, however, about ten years ago they were <br /> in one of the cycles where the state was in deficit. He stated it took about a decade to recover from <br /> the depths of the recession, and the budgetary crisis in Minnesota during the early 1980's. He stated <br /> that at this time, the state completely lost its credit rating and at one point did not have enough <br /> money to pay its employees. He stated, out of all this, from the Perpich administration and through <br /> the Carlson administration, and Legislatures of both parties, the have gradually developed a fiscal <br /> strategy and a program that has led to not only regaining the credit rating,but a triple A credit rating. <br /> He stated this has led to the tax cuts and other changes that most people view to be very positive. <br /> However, at that period of time,there were a number of things done to raise money to help stop the <br /> "bleeding"at the state level, and the cities paid the price on that particular issue. He stated he agreed <br /> that this should be corrected. <br /> City Administrator Whiting stated that he was familiar with other City Managers and Council <br /> Members who, upon reviewing these activities, were concerned with the anti-city attitude that <br /> appears to have developed within the Legislature.He inquired if Senator Novak would speak to this <br /> issue. <br /> Senator Novak stated that this was not his personal view and that he thought local and municipal <br /> government was probably the most effective government, and"the best buy for the buck, with the <br /> exception of the legislature." He stated,however, he had heard this expressed by others including <br /> Legislators. He stated that over a continuum of 10 to 20 years,going back particularly to the Perpich <br /> years,there had been some changes in law. He stated one of these was changes was that the salaries <br /> of all local government officials would be frozen at a level no higher than the governor's salary. He <br /> stated this seemed to particularly pose a problem for school districts and the hiring of school <br /> superintendents, and the districts became pretty creative in working around this. <br /> Senator Novak stated what many people do not seem to understand about the state budget,is exactly <br /> where the state dollars are spent. He stated he thought there was a perception on a segment of the <br /> public, that the vast majority of state dollars collected in state income taxes are spent to pay the <br /> 17 C:\ADMIN\MINUTES\CC\8-9-99.CC <br />