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Mounds View City Council July 9, 2007 <br />Regular Meeting Page 4 <br /> <br />Ms. Thomas said that she takes some offense to the disrespect to the Commissioners time that the 1 <br />statement of Council Member Stigney makes. The reason for delay is that they have other things 2 <br />that they need to do and they disagree with the timeline. They disagree at the statement of 3 <br />allowing citizens a defined period of time for the petition and to take it away would be a 4 <br />significant taking away of rights of the citizen that they do not support. She further said that 5 <br />what was called ambiguity was left to best fit the median needs of the community and any further 6 <br />changes would require significant philosophical debate. 7 <br /> 8 <br />Ms. Thomas said that this is at a stage where decisions need to be made and, if this does not 9 <br />move forward, they will put it to a vote. 10 <br /> 11 <br />Council Member Mueller said that in cleaning these chapters up and developing the flow chart, 12 <br />the document becomes easier for residents to use. She then said that it may not be the perfect 13 <br />document but it is an improvement and she feels it is important for the Council to accept the hard 14 <br />work that has been done to this point. She further said that some of the issues raised will need to 15 <br />be put to a vote as they will change the intent of the Charter. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Mayor Marty said that he appreciates the work of the Charter Commission. He then said that this 18 <br />is not perfect but it is much better than it was before. 19 <br /> 20 <br />Ms. Thomas said that the Charter Commission, City Attorney, and City Staff could, if the 21 <br />Council had something specific on an amendment to allow the Council to make further 22 <br />restrictions on the petition sufficiency, bring that amendment back to Council fairly quickly. 23 <br />However, if that one amendment would not be enough, then it would take much more time and 24 <br />would require a philosophical debate. 25 <br /> 26 <br />City Attorney Riggs said that the Charter Commission has done a great job and he is able to put 27 <br />aside his concern on the publication dates. He then said that the issue of whether there is a 28 <br />petition that is sufficient and whether there should be a sentence to cover circumventing the 29 <br />process. 30 <br /> 31 <br />Ms. Thomas said that the Charter Commission has discussed that but feels that it would be easier 32 <br />for Council to do that by Ordinance than it would be to add it to the Amendment. 33 <br /> 34 <br />City Administrator Ulrich requested Staff be allowed time to work on the language to address the 35 <br />sufficiency issue and bring this back to the next meeting. 36 <br /> 37 <br />Council Member Mueller pointed out that Mr. Thomas had asked for input from Council on 38 <br />things that members would like to see. She then said that she understands that a frivolous 39 <br />petition could delay action on an Ordinance but she believes that the body of this could be 40 <br />accepted now and add to the wish list for the Charter Commission to look at a definition of a 41 <br />frivolous petition and how to handle it. 42 <br /> 43 <br />David Jahnke said that he did not think that Council Member Stigney’s comment was offensive 44 <br />because he meant that this is so close to the finish line it should be finished. 45
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