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Mounds View City Council August 8, 2005 <br />Regular Meeting Page 20 <br /> <br />noting that if a golf course employee chooses to leave for other reasons there is no payout to the 1 <br />employee for their flex-time. 2 <br /> 3 <br />Golf Course Managerstated that if the Council does decide that there would not be a payout for 4 <br />flextime at this point she is not sure if they could manage the golf course with people trying to 5 <br />take 16 hours off every pay period. She stated that she wouldn’t be able to do it without the 6 <br />employees noting that they had 280 golfers one day last week, which was 20 away from the 7 <br />maximum. She assured Council that if her staff leaves they wouldn’t get the money to pay for 8 <br />the costs of the golf course for this year. 9 <br /> 10 <br />Council Member Gunn stated that based on whatever the termination date is and the employee is 11 <br />given a choice of a flex-time payout or one week of pay for each year of service noting that if 12 <br />they choose the service payout the flex-time would be mute and if they choose the flex-time 13 <br />payout the service payout would be mute. She stated that this is not something that the Council 14 <br />is prepared to make a decision on at this point adding that the Council needs to know the 15 <br />flextime hours and amounts. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Golf Course Managerstated that she could provide the Council with a rough estimate of the hours 18 <br />for their review. She indicated that she has approximately 100 hours, Dave has approximately 19 <br />400 hours, and Ken is approximately 250 to 300 hours. She stated that it might be easier to 20 <br />understand the dollar impact if they supply the Council with the actual hours accrued. 21 <br /> 22 <br />Mayor Marty agreed and asked that they put together the actual hours and dollars and provide to 23 <br />Council for their review. 24 <br /> 25 <br />City Administrator Ulrich stated that he would provide each of the Council Members with a copy 26 <br />of the standards for the flextime payout and vacation payout for their review. 27 <br /> 28 <br />Council Member Thomas asked if they are going to adapt the formulation on dollar value for flex 29 <br />hours to reflect the appropriate accruals that they would get for other dollar values on time. She 30 <br />stated that if they stayed on the books using that flextime they are accruing a dollar value of 31 <br />vacation time for payout. She explained that if they take away that working time of flex time and 32 <br />pay it out instead they are not getting the true value of those dollars unless they are accruing the 33 <br />other benefits they would be gaining while using those flex hours. She stated that this was the 34 <br />only reason why she said it would make more sense for them to be on the payroll using those 35 <br />flex-hours to get true values of the time they have put in. She stated that the Council could 36 <br />assign the dollar values for the straight hours if that is what they would prefer but this is an 37 <br />exception in the policy that states that the flex hours should be treated differently for these people 38 <br />because their schedule is different. She stated that this is a factor that should be brought into play 39 <br />if they are going to determine a drop dead date on the flex hours and pay out on the flex hours, 40 <br />then it would be appropriate to include the formulation of what the accruals would have been 41 <br />because that was a part of the benefits of their job and it would be a piece that is being lost. 42 <br /> 43 <br />Mayor Marty noted that a lump sum payout would have an affect on their taxes adding that it 44 <br />would behoove them to remain on the payroll and use their flextime hours. 45
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