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1 - - Cavanaugh•- indicated ,the .,.City.,-,would probably--use- the same reasoning <br /> 2 deny him'-'a liquor license if he were to apply .for 'one. <br /> 3 Heilicher said- his .type of,:.arcade in no way resembled the pool halls <br /> 4 of the past because smoking, gambling,- and drinking- are all— , <br /> 5 prohibited; <br /> 6 -said hismanagers- don' t allow loitering—in any areas in which they <br /> 7 have jurisdiction; <br /> 8 reported both the. Northtown and Ridgedale arcades are located in <br /> .. 9 . rather . isolated areas which are similar to the Apache location; <br /> 10 argued that the video games in his arcades are no different than the <br /> 11 games played on a. computer at home. <br /> 12 Cavanaugh reported the bowling alley, which has been at Apache Plaza , <br /> 13 for 26 years, has 14 coin operated games in a room where players can .. . <br /> 14 both smoke and drink beer next to the kids playing the games ; <br /> 15 <br /> 16 said Apache had- stepped up its security whenever- there had been <br /> 17 problems in .that establishment, which was exactly what they would do <br /> 18 if there were any loitering problems in the areas next to this <br /> 19 arcade; <br /> 20 reiterated that the mall has 24 hour security and the security • <br /> 21 cruises .around the mall every hour , on the hour , and would be <br /> 22 certain .'to break up any congregation like the one which worries - <br /> 23 Councilmember Marks. <br /> 24 Winstead perceived the problems the Council envisioned with the youth - <br /> 25 smoking and using drugs were also experienced in the schools and <br /> 26 - "you can' t shut down the schools. <br /> 27 said he perceived it was the City' s obligation to get a good use mix <br /> 28 for the community, including a well supervised- place for them to go; <br /> 29 thought it would be a "tough call" to legally uphold the findings <br /> 30 Councilmember Makowske had mentioned -which were based on <br /> 31 generalities ; <br /> 32 - -said he would like to see more of an "open mind" kept in regard to . <br /> 33 'this use and advised against a "head in the sand routine where you - <br /> 34 decide something' s bad, therefore, it ought to be eliminated <br /> 35 altogether; <br /> 36 reminded- them that .the precedent had already been set. .for the bowling <br /> 37 - alley which is a commercial recreational use, similar, yet--different, <br /> 38 from the use they -were proposing. <br /> 39 Pink indicated he: perceived two of the Council' s questions might . not <br /> 40 -have been properly answered; <br /> 10 <br />