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l ' said his* notes of the. 'Commission : -hearing indicated- the .abstentions. <br /> 2 had been prompted by the •two Commissioners approving the concept:.but <br /> 3 disapproving of the,. -limitation of.. the, hours.;. <br /> 4 - said he* perceived they ' had. .-hot wanted to have the use denied <br /> 5 altogether and -therefore voted -to abstain rather than vote against <br /> 6 it; <br /> 7 disputed that -the tenant or -customer mix in-Apache was different than. . <br /> 8 in any other -community shopping center, including Southdale, where <br /> 9 his -_ operated an amusement .center for 2-6 years ; Brookdale where <br /> 10 they operated until the space was_ needed for a . liquor establishment; <br /> 11 or' Ridgedale where they have operated since the center was opened; <br /> 12 said as a.' parent he- is glad to have- his— child go to a supervised <br /> 13 establishment,; <br /> 14 said if his child goes to any of the Picadilly Circus arcades, she <br /> 15 would be in a place -where smoking - is not permitted, which would not <br /> 16 be true of, the Apache Bowling Alley or any other bowling alley where <br /> 17 not only is- smoking allowed, but there is wine. or beer served right <br /> 18 where the same video games are played in that type of establishment. <br /> 19 Commissioner London said he perceived Mr. Pink might have correctly <br /> 20 characterized John Madden' s view because heT was one of the <br /> �221 Commissioners who had proposed an amendment which would allow the <br /> 2 arcade to be open for different hours than the mall. However , he <br /> 23 disputed Mr. Pink' s assumption about his own abstention because his <br /> 24 vote indicated "I didn' t like anything about the arcade and <br /> 25 realizing there was no way of defeating the motion, just <br /> 26 abstained. " <br /> 27 Councilmember Ranallo said that vote had not been a "bad thing" with <br /> 28 him and pointed to the fact that the Council had not followed the <br /> 29 Commission' s recommendation .about the second caretaker- unit, <br /> 30 perceiving that was an advisory on- which the Council had to make its <br /> 31 own decision. <br /> 32 Applicants Admit Having to Call Police to Their Arcades <br /> 33 Councilmember Ranallo then - asked -Mr. Heilicher. whether he was saying . <br /> 34 he had never. had to call the .po.lice to. any of his arcades.. When the <br /> 35 Picadilly: Circus- owner said he - didn' t believe they ever had to do <br /> 36 that , Mr. Pink corrected him -by.. saying he believed it would be <br /> 37 "inaccurate to -say that in 26> years we have never had to call the . <br /> 38 police to any of our establishments . " . However, he added,, that he <br /> 39 didn' t think there was - a business - in town which didn' t have to call <br /> 40 the police for shoplifting, etc. <br /> 41 Councilmember Ranal-lo told . Mr. -Heilicher he had - nothing against-- <br /> 42 - American - Amusement -and - knew -nothing about their management style ,, <br /> •43 but that he did know . for certain that there .:had been police calls <br /> 11 <br />