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• 1 the Council' is •.' ot -very comfortable with the . only center which, 2 remains and -wants .-to get it . out; 3 although- it would ,be...hard to :get rid of this arcade_ once it ' s in 4 Apache it` : might• be a more positive,. : step to: take to allow 5 another= center; because "if we close all their .hangouts, where 6 are the teenagers going to go?" . . 7 Mr. Cavanaugh responded that he knew a lot' of the. .teenagers. go to 8 Apache Mall, where the management from time to time has problems with . . 9 them congregating and smoking in the center court area and has to 10 clear them out. He added that congregation of kids . in fast food:. and 11 sit-down restaurants, amusement arcades, skate board areas, etc. are 12 just problems which "go with the territory" when you' re trying to 13 manage a 530,000 square foot mall. 14 Mayor Asks for Better Understanding of` Both Positions 1.5 Mayor Sundland asked the applicants to understand and appreciate the 16 Council' s position in the' same manner as they expected the Council to 17 give a fair hearing to their request. He pointed out that - each of 18 the Councilmembers have- personally had .difficulties with a similar, 19 but perhaps different , establishment in St. Anthony which had 20 prompted their, opposition to another establishment like it in the 21- City. His comments generated the following response: 022 Marks: reiterated that he would like to see something positive 23 -done for the kids ; however , 24 indicated he had mixed feelings about this request him- 25 self ; . 26 indicated he wished. he had visited more arcades prior to 27 the meeting to be better informed about the issue. 28 Randllo: - said he 'had also been involved with the previous attempts 29 to establish youth centers in the City and had concluded 30 "kids just don' t want to be supervised." 31 32 - Attorney Expands on Legal Issues Involved 33 - Mr. Soth reiterated that "the fact that the City Ordinance says 34 amusement arcades are permitted uses in -St. . Anthony doesn' t mean the 35 Council can never deny such a request- because they might find during . '36- their considerations that there- were good reasons to deny because ' 37 of an establishment' s' location. " He said in this case it had already 38 been mentioned that the proposed arcade was in close proximity to a 39 bar where adults coming out of the bar could easily mix with the 40 teenage people in the arcade: The Attorney said the City can' t say 41 it "doesn' t,' 'want any amusement arcades at . all" because they are 4.2 authorized in the Ordinance., but- the Council is not obliged to 043 approve this particular arcade as long. as they enumerate. the reasons 13