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- . 1 for their denial. Mr. Soth:-.. .indicated the' ,issues identified .as • . 2 conditions for granting the request which . are cited on the 3 application could be -used as. findings :as..long as the - Council :is- more 4 specific about.. the reasons they : are making those findings. 5 When Councilmember Ranallo asked whether the fact that the residents 6 oppose any arcades in the City at all would be sufficient reason 7 -for denying this request, the City Attorney told him "probably not" , 8 because the Ordinance already permits them. 9 Councilmembers Perceive. Need for, First Hand Knowledge 10 The attorney' s advice resulted in the following response from 11 Councilmember Marks: 12 indicated he perceived the Council was .getting information from 13 differing sources , including the report from 'the police officer 14 on the Commission whose investigation had convinced him .there 15 are problems associated with all arcades including. the establi- 16 shments managed by the applicants followed by an opposing view 17 from American Amusement representatives ; 18 said. he for one did not have enough knowledge of . how these 19 arcades are. run when it came to disciplining- kids, etc. and 20 would prefer tabling action on a final decision until the . 21 Council has an .opportunity to visit some arcades and- see how 22 they are operated and get further information related to the 23 police perspective on this type of establishment. 24 Councilmembers Ranallo and Makowske indicated they concurred with - 25 Councilmember Marks ' suggestion and Mayor Sundland agreed that no 26 matter how the final decision went, this would be the most reasonable 27 way for the Council to go. 28 Before a motion to table was offered, Mr. Pink asked , the . 29 Councilmembers to remember , as they view different types of arcades, 30 to distinguish between those which are contracted out where the 31 owners only service the equipment and the arcades for which American 32 Amusement -is financially - responsible and manages , services and 33 provides control. He pointed out that the arcade in -the St. Anthony 34 ' Shopping Center is one which is contracted out where the manager ' s 35 greatest concern is to generate dollars . Mr. Pink also said there 36 are "good and bad arcades just ,. as there . are good and bad liquor 37- stores , gas stations , -etc. " 38 Mr.* Cavanaugh suggested it might be difficult to make a long term 39 decision based on the. arcade ' s. proximity - to the liquor lounge since 40 he - never, knew, from month to month whether. the lounge would be 41- remaining in .Apache or whether the. - City . would be . building another -42 one on another site.. • 14